SFV Needs 1 Frame Links

[TinfoilDurag]

Right now there is always the same exact combo route. If there was 1 frame links you have additional combo routes. These will be harder but also reward more damage when you land them.

It's getting so boring doing/watching st.mp, cr.mp xx special all day. That's what SF4 and 3 look like when you're just beginning. But SFV never gets past that. Sure it gets Vtrigger cancels in there, but then you just do like 2 more easy links.

[Washing Machine]

Juri babe has some crouch only 1f microwalk combos, but ain't see much anyone trying them in real matches. Would be sick to get it consistent, since it lets you combo into launcher now in AE which lets you restock stores mid combo (which should be a thing anyway).

I think plenty of characters have something like that? No one just bothers since it's rarely worth it.

[TinfoilDurag]

Originally posted by Washing Machine:

Juri babe has some crouch only 1f microwalk combos, but ain't see much anyone trying them in real matches. Would be sick to get it consistent, since it lets you combo into launcher now in AE which lets you restock stores mid combo (which should be a thing anyway).

I think plenty of characters have something like that? No one just bothers since it's rarely worth it.

Back in S1 a lot of characters had those but they all got nerfed out. You should really take the time to get it down. You'd be able to recharge mid combo like you said you'd be at a huge advantage

[Cipher Esteria]

1f links are all over the game, what you want is the frame buffer to be removed.
And to be honest no, thats a bad idea.

The idea that 1f links ´were harder but rewarded better is a myth that carried over from SFIV, the majority of 1f links were unnecessary hard BnB Combos that didn't even reward much.
It is a myth and a bad one, the best thing is to keep them away and never let them return.

[TinfoilDurag]

Originally posted by Mr. Cipher:

1f links are all over the game, what you want is the frame buffer to be removed.
And to be honest no, thats a bad idea.

The idea that 1f links ´were harder but rewarded better is a myth that carried over from SFIV, the majority of 1f links were unnecessary hard BnB Combos that didn't even reward much.
It is a myth and a bad one, the best thing is to keep them away and never let them return.

I agree 1fr BnB need to be gone. But 1frame links added depth 100% for sure.

Cody could do f.mp, cr.lp xx mk. Ruffian
OOOOR
f.mp, st.mp, cr.hp xx mk. Ruffian

Poison could land overhead into super if you could link it.

Then compare every other Dudley to Smug.

[NeoTurfMaster]

No.

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by BlazGreenBongRoyale:

I agree 1fr BnB need to be gone. But 1frame links added depth 100% for sure.

This line alone is nonsense, Execution adds no depth to the game, it never does.

[RedAlert]

Yes, but 1-frame link should have the same effect as v-triggers in scaling down combo damage more than normally to balance them out.

[TinfoilDurag]

Originally posted by Mr. Cipher:

Originally posted by BlazGreenBongRoyale:

I agree 1fr BnB need to be gone. But 1frame links added depth 100% for sure.

This line alone is nonsense, Execution adds no depth to the game, it never does.

Does this even deserve a response

[Deedog]

nah keep that ♥♥♥♥ out

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by BlazGreenBongRoyale:

Does this even deserve a response

Aknowledging defeat it always a good option, glad that you gave up.

[Funkfist]

lmao

[-Ramen-]

I used to love doing very stupid and unoptimal combos purely because they were incredibly difficult, and visually impressive.

After intermediate level play, it became an awful habit that didn't really work on higher level players, and it left you deeply wanting that damage optimization.


Vega had a jab 1 frame bnb in IV, but almost every other 1 framer could be plinked, making it a 2 frame. Even in IV, which was lauded as having tons of 1 frame links, most of the time people were hitting it with 1 frame leniency. (2 frame links.)

[GraviityAssist]

frame traps are the depth.

[Nocturno]

No 1f links, but if you want to do 40% dmg you should do more complex combos than the current crap. Any moron can do tons of dmg in this game with almost zero lab effort.

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by BlazGreenBongRoyale:

Right now there is always the same exact combo route. If there was 1 frame links you have additional combo routes.

This is a fallacy.

There's nothing inherent to 1-frame links that would promise additional combo routes. If they would go out of their way to allow more 1-frame links, there won't be any new combos unless they directly allow a link between the different moves.

If they're doing that, there's no reason to disable the frame buffer.