Should alt customes be banned from Evo?

[Liam Neeson Punching Wolves]

So I see some stages are banned for tournaments, Kanzuki Beach and Skies of Honor.

But I watching the EVO finals this year for the second time, enjoying it. Then it came to final 8 with Tokido against Fuudo - Fuudo used the Monster Hunter costume.

The costume itself messes up the characters silhouette, and acts as a cluster mish-mash of hard right angles, which obv makes it harder to read moves and pokes and what not.

Is it over-reacting, or should something like this be banned from Evo? Seems like a rather lame move on his part, while poor old Tokido stuck to the default Akuma get up. The way he was originally designed.

https://youtu.be/eXMRmbOpE30

[Fr4ntic]

Costumes were never banned to
my knowledge but I could be wrong. Prob to much hastle which one and maybe even in conclusion with what stage. Speaking of which must admit Ive used the purple Blanka carnaval alt with Seth's stage in SF4 after Mike Ross called out it should be banned in excellent adventure's.

[Baines]

Some costumes were banned for the ESPN broadcast, weren't they? But that was over sexualized content concerns, not for gameplay reasons. (Even though Cammy's outfit covered more than actual athletes wear in some ESPN broadcast sports.)

There are grounds to ban costumes that are deemed to give an unfair advantage. Heck, companies like Capcom have in the past used the idea of potentially "unfair" creations to justify not giving full free color customization to characters in fighting games, instead offering only pre-made palettes.

But Capcom actually banning SFV outfits is honestly pretty unlikely. They create these things with full knowledge that they will be used online, and sell them as well. Further, banning one costume, or even one set of costumes, will open the door to people expecting other costumes to be banned. The Monster Hunter outfits aren't the only costumes to draw complaints of unfairness, nor even the first. And some of the costumes that draw complaints are Premium-only outfits, not just ones that were (mostly) free. Capcom probably doesn't want to open that can of worms unless it is forced to.

Heck, even the controversial stages were just that, controversial. Kanzuki Beach met immediate complaint not just for obscuring the ground, but for doing it on one side of the screen rather than evenly. And there was the issue of Birdie having a projectile that could be hidden by the water. As for Skies of Honor, there were players who literally became queasy when fighting on that stage. A stage that makes some players physically ill is certainly an unfair stage, particularly when your opponent can pick that stage knowing that does so.

[Washing Machine]

I'd love to see them ban crap like Necalli's CPT costume where his VT hair hovers over health/stun bars. But if it doesn't bother the opponent, I guess it's fine?

[Lunar Shower]

Unless it actually has some known issue in making a hit/hurtbox seemingly more awkward or difficult to distinguish, or generally obscure some important part of the game, then I don't see why alternate costumes should be banned really. Its the same reason I disagree with only the usage of training stage back when it did happen, makes it much less appealing as a viewer to constantly see the same stage/costumes before you, and it helps player indvidualize a bit more when they actually have a choice in what their characters wear.

[lanepi]

Does anyone know why they banned the Kanzuki beach stage? Personally the only stage I found to be too distracting or affecting me is the aeroplane one (skies of horror?). Costume wise I think the only one needs banning is that costume for Ed where he has a hologram. So distracting and annoying in my view.

[sbt]

Originally posted by lanepi:

Does anyone know why they banned the Kanzuki beach stage? Personally the only stage I found to be too distracting or affecting me is the aeroplane one (skies of horror?). Costume wise I think the only one needs banning is that costume for Ed where he has a hologram. So distracting and annoying in my view.

The water in kanzuki beach can cover stuff like juris fb or birdies vskill drops (tin, banana).

[lanepi]

Originally posted by sbt:

Originally posted by lanepi:

Does anyone know why they banned the Kanzuki beach stage? Personally the only stage I found to be too distracting or affecting me is the aeroplane one (skies of horror?). Costume wise I think the only one needs banning is that costume for Ed where he has a hologram. So distracting and annoying in my view.

The water in kanzuki beach can cover stuff like juris fb or birdies vskill drops (tin, banana).

ah of course. Thanks for pointing that out.