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Wezilla Mar 26, 2018 @ 4:55am
Abigail killed SFV community
Players had enough and gone to play other fighting games for better balanced.

Please do something about that Abigail...
Last edited by Wezilla; Mar 26, 2018 @ 4:56am
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Washing Machine Mar 27, 2018 @ 2:44am 
Originally posted by UMR_CHIGGA:
Originally posted by CRAZY DAVE dennys grand slam:
abigail is fine. its clear that capcom wants him to be a top 10 character though, or he wouldve been nerfed more heavily
why tho
no1 like abigail as a character
Because it's the exact same stupid hype-comeback concept as Balrog was?

It's "hype" when a character makes this big comeback and the opponent dies to a couple combos of doing ridiculous damage. Casual viewers etc watching the game and not knowing what's up go WHOOOOAAAA when they see that and think it was the coolest thing ever. Then they go back to complaining how any character zoning or throwing projectiles is lame and boring.
PЯΞÐ∆ÐØR Mar 27, 2018 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by drizzlenizzle:
there is nothing wrong with abigail
I confess that I also found a joke this fighter, in my opniao if he was in the physical size of Zangief, would be great. plus the face is six inches tall. soon will have Kratos in the game to face the giants that comes around. lol:Excrement_Item:
He's fun to fight.
Providence 777 Mar 27, 2018 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by node357:
c.LP c.LP c.LP c.LP...

i had a friend who was almost ready to get SFV even though he's only into 3D fighters and Smash. when he saw me fighting an Abigail player online doing this, he said "NOPE!" and now he's never going to get SFV. deep down, both he and i know it's because he can't stand plinking. this is a guy who puts up with Bayonetta in Smash. man, i couldn't even convince him to buy that after he realized her OP BS is based on a pretty good game named after her. oh well.
If your friend always runs from strong characters, they'll always continue running from games.
Sisu Mar 27, 2018 @ 10:04am 
Originally posted by Providence 777:
Originally posted by node357:
c.LP c.LP c.LP c.LP...

i had a friend who was almost ready to get SFV even though he's only into 3D fighters and Smash. when he saw me fighting an Abigail player online doing this, he said "NOPE!" and now he's never going to get SFV. deep down, both he and i know it's because he can't stand plinking. this is a guy who puts up with Bayonetta in Smash. man, i couldn't even convince him to buy that after he realized her OP BS is based on a pretty good game named after her. oh well.
If your friend always runs from strong characters, they'll always continue running from games.

Nah, he is not running from a strong char, he is avoiding a questionable balancing. He is wisely avoiding a bad crafted game.
Last edited by Sisu; Mar 27, 2018 @ 10:05am
Mr. Bumpy Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Wezilla:
Players had enough and gone to play other fighting games for better balanced.

Please do something about that Abigail...

Spending a couple hours in lab =/= nerf character.

Cipher Esteria Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by Sisu:

Nah, he is not running from a strong char, he is avoiding a questionable balancing. He is wisely avoiding a bad crafted game.

God forbide you ever played a different FG.
Name me just one FG with a good or acceptional Balance.

Abivroom is OP right now, he will get nerfed anyway, no reason to sheed more tears about it.
After him, the next OP char will be nerfed, the crowd will probably jump ship to Rashido or Edgey Ryu.
Or Menat, I currently belive more, she will be the next Target.
Last edited by Cipher Esteria; Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:24am
Mr. Bumpy Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by BruteJustice:
Originally posted by Sisu:

Nah, he is not running from a strong char, he is avoiding a questionable balancing. He is wisely avoiding a bad crafted game.

God forbide you ever played a different FG.
Name me just one FG with a good or acceptional Balance.

Abivroom is OP right now, he will get nerfed anyway, no reason to sheed more tears about it.
After him, the next OP char will be nerfed, the crowd will probably jump ship to Rashido or Edgey Ryu.
Or Menat, I currently belive more, she will be the next Target.

Sad thing is Abigail was slept on/considered not very good until season 3 when he got his VT2, which nobody really uses.

He wasn't given anything extra in season 3, He's just a scrub killer.

Any complaints about Abigail before Guile, Akuma, Rashid or Cammy just really put the feather in my hat.
Last edited by Mr. Bumpy; Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:32am
76561198370296162 Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Bonestza:
Originally posted by BruteJustice:

God forbide you ever played a different FG.
Name me just one FG with a good or acceptional Balance.

Abivroom is OP right now, he will get nerfed anyway, no reason to sheed more tears about it.
After him, the next OP char will be nerfed, the crowd will probably jump ship to Rashido or Edgey Ryu.
Or Menat, I currently belive more, she will be the next Target.

Sad thing is Abigail was slept on/considered not very good until season 3 when he got his VT2, which nobody really uses.

He wasn't given anything extra in season 3, He's just a scrub killer.

Any complaints about Abigail before Guile, Akuma, Rashid or Cammy just really put the feather in my hat.

its because their favorite pro player has cried over his patch notes at one time is why folks are moaning over him now imo.

tho he did receive a few buffs in S3, v1 lasts longer, jab being active earlier and i believe some extra combo opportunities come to mind off the top.
Cipher Esteria Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Bonestza:

Sad thing is Abigail was slept on/considered not very good until season 3 when he got his VT2, which nobody really uses.

He wasn't given anything extra in season 3, He's just a scrub killer.

Any complaints about Abigail before Guile, Akuma, Rashid or Cammy just really put the feather in my hat.

Any Grappler is a scrub killer, but this isn't a problem on a low level, this is a high problem.
Abivroom is the same as Balrog, you can dominate him the entire round, he just needs one stray cr.lk to take 80% of your life bar. His damage Output is beyond stupid, he got armor on literaly anything, enormous hitboxes and the biggest problem, his hurtboxes. This characters hurtboxes make absolutly no sense, going against even basic logic.
Good exampel beeing his jump, Abivroom lands long before his actual model reaches the ground, this is the reason, why so many people get caught off guard if he jumps or gets anti-aired.
Both of his VT's give him the ultimate Unga in the game, perfect tools to steal rounds and matches.
And then we have the whiffpunishes, good luck to whiffpunish him. His st.hp is a nice culprint, he does it, 4f after the recovery kicks in, you can't whiffpunish him, unless you hit his freaking back.

Abivroom is problematic in a lot of ways, he was sleep on during Season 2 and since the Abivroom player were loud about him not beeing broken enough, they got all the buffs they wanted.
Same happend with Urien in Season 2, a good character noone gave credit and he got a lot of unneded and dumb buffs, because the Urien players were vocal about how bad he was.

He deserves every nerf he gets, every singel one.
Mr. Bumpy Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by BruteJustice:
Originally posted by Bonestza:

Sad thing is Abigail was slept on/considered not very good until season 3 when he got his VT2, which nobody really uses.

He wasn't given anything extra in season 3, He's just a scrub killer.

Any complaints about Abigail before Guile, Akuma, Rashid or Cammy just really put the feather in my hat.

Any Grappler is a scrub killer, but this isn't a problem on a low level, this is a high problem.
Abivroom is the same as Balrog, you can dominate him the entire round, he just needs one stray cr.lk to take 80% of your life bar. His damage Output is beyond stupid, he got armor on literaly anything, enormous hitboxes and the biggest problem, his hurtboxes. This characters hurtboxes make absolutly no sense, going against even basic logic.
Good exampel beeing his jump, Abivroom lands long before his actual model reaches the ground, this is the reason, why so many people get caught off guard if he jumps or gets anti-aired.
Both of his VT's give him the ultimate Unga in the game, perfect tools to steal rounds and matches.
And then we have the whiffpunishes, good luck to whiffpunish him. His st.hp is a nice culprint, he does it, 4f after the recovery kicks in, you can't whiffpunish him, unless you hit his freaking back.

Abivroom is problematic in a lot of ways, he was sleep on during Season 2 and since the Abivroom player were loud about him not beeing broken enough, they got all the buffs they wanted.
Same happend with Urien in Season 2, a good character noone gave credit and he got a lot of unneded and dumb buffs, because the Urien players were vocal about how bad he was.

He deserves every nerf he gets, every singel one.

His VT is pretty strong, I'll give you that,

Originally posted by BruteJustice:
Originally posted by Bonestza:

Sad thing is Abigail was slept on/considered not very good until season 3 when he got his VT2, which nobody really uses.

He wasn't given anything extra in season 3, He's just a scrub killer.

Any complaints about Abigail before Guile, Akuma, Rashid or Cammy just really put the feather in my hat.

Any Grappler is a scrub killer, but this isn't a problem on a low level, this is a high problem.
Abivroom is the same as Balrog, you can dominate him the entire round, he just needs one stray cr.lk to take 80% of your life bar. His damage Output is beyond stupid, he got armor on literaly anything, enormous hitboxes and the biggest problem, his hurtboxes. This characters hurtboxes make absolutly no sense, going against even basic logic.
Good exampel beeing his jump, Abivroom lands long before his actual model reaches the ground, this is the reason, why so many people get caught off guard if he jumps or gets anti-aired.
Both of his VT's give him the ultimate Unga in the game, perfect tools to steal rounds and matches.
And then we have the whiffpunishes, good luck to whiffpunish him. His st.hp is a nice culprint, he does it, 4f after the recovery kicks in, you can't whiffpunish him, unless you hit his freaking back.

Abivroom is problematic in a lot of ways, he was sleep on during Season 2 and since the Abivroom player were loud about him not beeing broken enough, they got all the buffs they wanted.
Same happend with Urien in Season 2, a good character noone gave credit and he got a lot of unneded and dumb buffs, because the Urien players were vocal about how bad he was.

He deserves every nerf he gets, every singel one.

Knock abigail down once and he loses...

Enough said.
Cipher Esteria Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by Bonestza:

Knock abigail down once and he loses...

Enough said.

Yeah knock him down, have sweat all the match on your forehead play perfect, he somehow gets a cr.lk out, you lose your lifebar get stunned, put into an unblockabel and you lose.
Thats good, thats very good, he doesn't need to play good, you can crush him the entire match, he just needs to have once luck to get the round.
Mr. Bumpy Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by BruteJustice:
Originally posted by Bonestza:

Knock abigail down once and he loses...

Enough said.

Yeah knock him down, have sweat all the match on your forehead play perfect, he somehow gets a cr.lk out, you lose your lifebar get stunned, put into an unblockabel and you lose.
Thats good, thats very good, he doesn't need to play good, you can crush him the entire match, he just needs to have once luck to get the round.

Play perfect?

He has one wake-up option, CA.

If he doesn't have CA, go to town.

If his Cr.lk Is beating your meaty's you need to learn to meaty better, not nerf the character.

He's strong, he's A tier for sure(see what I did there?), but there's other characters who have A LOT more going for them than Abigail. And I have a bad feeling Abi is gonna get nerfed to D tier while Guile/Cammy/Akuma/Menat/Rashid run rampant.
Last edited by Mr. Bumpy; Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:16pm
76561198370296162 Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:10pm 
first of all, i dont classify Abby as a grappler being the big body that he is, it would seem to be his archetype from a glance but his play style seems more of a bruiser type than throw heavy. but thats neither here nor there.
im reading some exaggerations here. 1, Abby doesnt have a 0~100% stun combo, so getting stunned vs abby means you made a few mistakes. and 2, hes certainly not taking off 80% of your health bar (in a combo that is) off a c.lk of all buttons O.o
lets calm down here lol

he has 0 wake up options outside of CA as was pointed out.
his fastest button is c.lk @4 frames, everything else is 5 or more
he gets dominated on the inside, unless your pressure isnt tight enough then maybe he can ex through something.

i think the problem with abby that folks arent ready to admit is that it exposes a weakness in them. being that his damage output is so large, you are afforded less mistakes than the average.
got walked down into the corner? gg. threw out an unsafe button or attack and got crushed? whoops. ect.

Washing Machine Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:18pm 
"It's okay for me to have highest health in game and rob a round off one stray hit. You guys just need to git gud cuz I don't care to."
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