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Is there any way to fix the huge problem this game has, while playing online? It doesn't matter if I'm playing against 5 bars, on any settings lowest or max, the game is still unplayable. Between the already bad input delay, the teleporting doesn't help at all. Game runs at an even 60 at all times so V-Sync on, off or adaptive didn't make any difference. All my drivers are up to date and the game runs perfectly offline, this is exclusively an online issue.

PC specs:

1050ti
I7-6700k
16GB-RAM
Last edited by AbyssWalker_501st; May 8, 2018 @ 5:24pm
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MegaFayeX May 8, 2018 @ 5:39pm 
Based on what you're saying, its going to boil down to a network issue, and network issues can sometimes be very difficult to pin down. A good start would be to look over the networking guide:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=942611758
zoiks May 8, 2018 @ 5:41pm 
Check to make sure your monitor/cables can actually support 60hz at the resolution you're running, beyond that if you're running at 60fps reliably then it's going to be networking issues.

There's a guide somewhere here for checking your firewall/router/port settings and of course using a wired network connection is preferable, but odds are it's mostly just high latency between you and the other player. I don't know the specifics, but 5 bars seems to allow for significantly higher than 100ms (6 frame) delays, which is going to be consistently bad if your client isn't hosting.

There's no way of guaranteeing a playable match even at 5 bars, sadly the only thing you can do beyond checking your own hardware performace and settings, is to blacklist players you have a bad connection with.
Jackmoved May 8, 2018 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by AbyssWalker:
Is there any way to fix the huge problem this game has, while playing online? It doesn't matter if I'm playing against 5 bars, on any settings lowest or max, the game is still unplayable. Between the already bad input delay, the teleporting doesn't help at all. Game runs at an even 60 at all times so V-Sync on, off or adaptive didn't make any difference. All my drivers are up to date and the game runs perfectly offline, this is exclusively an online issue.

PC specs:

1050ti
I7-6700k
16GB-RAM

minimize your ping and packet drops always first. After that, you can blame opponents and servers. If you use wifi its your fault. Even if its right next to your computer or ps4, radiowaves are slower than speed of light/electrical current that wired connections use.

Just blacklist common laggers if the problem persists. If the game is flawless first match, then laggy second, blacklist for suspicious activity cuz that's some alt-tabbing ass tech.
ART_Gamer May 9, 2018 @ 6:27am 
Yes. Jackmoved is right. go to www.meter.net/ping-test/ and check your ping with different countries. Ideally you should have ping less than 100ms. Any higher you will get teleport. Thats how the netcode of SFV works. It cannot handle pings higher than 150ms. And also it depends on your ISP routing. Despite having good ping I consistenly have trouble with players from my own country because of my ISP routing. The netcode of SFV is not the best around.
mercureXI May 9, 2018 @ 5:59pm 
Try playing against someone close to your location with a reliable wired connection, to check if the problem is on your side or not.

Once you got that covered, and if you have a smooth 2-3 matches without rollback with that person, you "just" have to deal with people with terrible connections (WiFi users most of the time), and gotta use the "5 only + ask confirmation" filters, hoping they don't bypass them (it still can happen), blacklisting people with such connections.

If you live in a populated area and you have a good wired connection, you should find WAY MORE smooth matches than you encounter terrible connections that way.
Last edited by mercureXI; May 9, 2018 @ 6:00pm
Bad_Conduct May 9, 2018 @ 9:12pm 
5.
You should definitely do this method from time to time

IP Release, Renew, and Flush DNS
Windows 10

1.While on the desktop, press Windows Key + X.
2.Select Command Prompt (Run as Administrator).
3. Type ipconfig /release in the command prompt.
Wait a few seconds for a reply that the IP address has been released.
4.Type ipconfig /renew in the command prompt.
Wait a few seconds for a reply that the IP address has been re-established.
5.Type ipconfig /flushdns in the command prompt.
Close the command prompt and attempt to make a connection.[us.battle.net]

Lastly, if you think your having trouble still or have shown packets loss from the tests etc, please contact your provider (ISP).

LOL
who wrote this crap?
That's your NAT IP address from your router, it has nothing to do with your ISP Address

Christ...
Last edited by Bad_Conduct; May 9, 2018 @ 9:12pm
Bad_Conduct May 9, 2018 @ 9:15pm 
2.
Getting better performance from your Network interface card (NIC)[karooforums.net]

To start off with the settings I will list all the available options to me and their new settings, you may find some names to be different, more or even less options.

Here shows you what does what Advanced Network Adapter Driver Settings[www.windowsnetworking.com]

Auto Disable Gigabit - Disable
Auto Disable PCIe - Disable
Auto Disable PHY - Disable
Flow Control - Disable
Green Ethernet - Disable! [Previously set to Enabled]
Interrupt Moderation - Disable! [Previously set to Enabled]
IPv4 Checksum Offload - Rx & Tx Enable
Jumbo Frame - Disable
Large Send Offload v2 (IPv4) - Disabled
Large Send Offload v2 (IPv6) - Disabled
Network Address - Not Preset
Priority & VLAN - Priorty & VLAN Disabled
Receive Buffers - 512 (Max = 512, set to max)
Receive Side Scaling - Enable (Enabled if you have a multi-core CPU)
Shutdown Wake-On-Lan - Disable
Speed & Duplex - 100Mbps Full Duplex [Previously set to Auto Negotiate]
TCP Checksum Offload (IPv4) - Rx & Tx Enable
TCP Checksum Offload (IPv6) - Rx & Tx Enable [Previously set to Disabled]
Transmit Buffers - 128 (Max = 128, set to max)
UDP Checksum Offload (IPv4) - Rx & Tx Enable
UDP Checksum Offload (IPv6) - Rx & Tx Enable [Previously set to Disabled]
Wake-On-Lan Capabilities - None
WOL & Shutdown Link Speed - 100Mbps First
the main culprits are underlined

wtf?
Your network card can push 1Gb a second. The bottleneck will be your router performance or modem performance long before it hits your network card...

Why the ♥♥♥♥ would you force it to 100Mb when you are on an autonegotiated line?
Don't change your network to 100Mb unless you are on a connection that requires your network card settings to be manually configured, autonegotiate is a setting. It's the setting on both ends.

This advice is retarded.
Last edited by Bad_Conduct; May 9, 2018 @ 9:15pm
76561198240032426 May 9, 2018 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:


wtf?
Your network card can push 1Gb a second. The bottleneck will be your router performance or modem performance long before it hits your network card...

Why the ♥♥♥♥ would you force it to 100Mb when you are on an autonegotiated line?
Don't change your network to 100Mb unless you are on a connection that requires your network card settings to be manually configured, autonegotiate is a setting. It's the setting on both ends.

This advice is retarded.
Are you retarded? I read the guide and you're fixated on something that the guide is using as an example and not what to change. The only thing the guide is clearly stating to change are whats underlined. I've seen that before though and was a thing to do back in the day, this is most likely the best settings for their network for that time.

But hey, if you know better give us advice to fix our problems instead of being an asshat, because I am also in search on improving my issues. I too just made a post just like this one not too long ago.
Last edited by Helbrecht; May 9, 2018 @ 11:40pm
Bad_Conduct May 10, 2018 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Helbrecht:
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:


wtf?
Your network card can push 1Gb a second. The bottleneck will be your router performance or modem performance long before it hits your network card...

Why the ♥♥♥♥ would you force it to 100Mb when you are on an autonegotiated line?
Don't change your network to 100Mb unless you are on a connection that requires your network card settings to be manually configured, autonegotiate is a setting. It's the setting on both ends.

This advice is retarded.
Are you retarded? I read the guide and you're fixated on something that the guide is using as an example and not what to change. The only thing the guide is clearly stating to change are whats underlined. I've seen that before though and was a thing to do back in the day, this is most likely the best settings for their network for that time.

But hey, if you know better give us advice to fix our problems instead of being an asshat, because I am also in search on improving my issues. I too just made a post just like this one not too long ago.

Any changes you make in the guide will only impact your connection between your computer and your router, that has nothing to do with your modem connecting to the capcom servers. The only useful information in this guide is testing your connection to your ISP, but you can do that fairly easily with CMD tools.

You can do whatever you want, but that guide is awful and I don't recommend anyone follow it. It was clearly written by someone who googled a bunch of bull and has no idea what they are actually doing.

You are not going to make the bad netcode in SFV suddenly work better. Especially by making changes to your local network traffic. Your computer isn't talking directly to the internet, the traffic redirects and goes through your router to your PC.

I'd just set the ping -a tool overnight to your gateway IP address (the router), your ISP gateway (you can get it from the modem), Google's website and the Capcom server.

- If you are getting a latency spike or packet between yourself and the router, there's an issue with your local connection. It should always be < 1 ms or 1 ms, never higher. If it's high, you'll need to check your physical network cable (make sure it's cat5e or better) and your router.

- If it's high to the ISP Gateway IP address, you have a bad connection to your ISP, that could be bad lines between your house and your ISP. Call your ISP.

- If it's high or getting packet loss to Google and Capcom, it's your ISP. If it's just high and getting packet loss to Capcom, but not Google, it's Capcom.

- If it's all fine, it's the other users or the netcode.

- If you can ping your friend overnight with 0 packet loss and connecting to him in-game is laggy, it's the netcode.


You should not be changing the network card settings unless you were advised to by a Vendor for a specific reason, like being connected directly to a network device that does not autonegotiate. Making these types of changes without knowing what you are doing, or why, will cause other issues with your network taffic at some point, and the user won't remember doing this.


One other thing you CAN try is changing your MTU to match your ISP

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/94721-mtu-limit-test-change-your-connections-mtu-limit.html

But you need to test it and make sure it can get out of your router/modem before you set it permanently, this will just send a larger frame of data.
Last edited by Bad_Conduct; May 10, 2018 @ 5:54am
76561198240032426 May 10, 2018 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Any changes you make in the guide will only impact your connection between your computer and your router, that has nothing to do with your modem connecting to the capcom servers. The only useful information in this guide is testing your connection to your ISP, but you can do that fairly easily with CMD tools.

You can do whatever you want, but that guide is awful and I don't recommend anyone follow it. It was clearly written by someone who googled a bunch of bull and has no idea what they are actually doing.

You are not going to make the bad netcode in SFV suddenly work better. Especially by making changes to your local network traffic. Your computer isn't talking directly to the internet, the traffic redirects and goes through your router to your PC.

um, yeah, ok... I will keep in mind about that and do more research before and if I ever decide to change settings on my NIC, but I will definitely keep the windows p2p update off and the bandwidth reserved off as well. I have been already doing that and will keep doing that regardless what anyone says. I really think you over looked a lot of things and are just fixated on the one thing you disagree with.

So I pinged my default gateway and I got 6-7 ms and I do not own a router, I am direct from modem to desktop. So then I decided to contact my isp to let them know to rectify if there is an issue and this is what he told me :

A 7ms response time is perfectly normal standard. I normally get 9ms on my connection at home from outside. the acceptable standard is normally up to 15ms. These are normal standards with any Internet service provider. I ran some test and I am not finding any issues with the signals coming from outside to your personal modem.

I got only get 1ms ping when I ping my ipv4 address only, everything else is 6-7

this is frustrating, there are lots of mixed information out there.
Last edited by Helbrecht; May 10, 2018 @ 12:09pm
Bad_Conduct May 10, 2018 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Helbrecht:
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Any changes you make in the guide will only impact your connection between your computer and your router, that has nothing to do with your modem connecting to the capcom servers. The only useful information in this guide is testing your connection to your ISP, but you can do that fairly easily with CMD tools.

You can do whatever you want, but that guide is awful and I don't recommend anyone follow it. It was clearly written by someone who googled a bunch of bull and has no idea what they are actually doing.

You are not going to make the bad netcode in SFV suddenly work better. Especially by making changes to your local network traffic. Your computer isn't talking directly to the internet, the traffic redirects and goes through your router to your PC.

um, yeah, ok... I will keep in mind about that and do more research before and if I ever decide to change settings on my NIC, but I will definitely keep the windows p2p update off and the bandwidth reserved off as well. I have been already doing that and will keep doing that regardless what anyone says. I really think you over looked a lot of things and are just fixated on the one thing you disagree with.

So I pinged my default gateway and I got 6-7 ms and I do not own a router, I am direct from modem to desktop. So then I decided to contact my isp to let them know to rectify if there is an issue and this is what he told me :

A 7ms response time is perfectly normal standard. I normally get 9ms on my connection at home from outside. the acceptable standard is normally up to 15ms. These are normal standards with any Internet service provider. I ran some test and I am not finding any issues with the signals coming from outside to your personal modem.

I got only get 1ms ping when I ping my ipv4 address only, everything else is 6-7

this is frustrating, there are lots of mixed information out there.

Disabling P2P updates is logical for privacy reasons, but Windows generally doesn't update when it's in use.

Do not change your NIC settings unless you have a specific reason too, has nothing to do with WAN internet.


I seriously hope you are not connecting your PC directly to the internet without a firewall?
That is incredibly dangerous. Your PC is being bombarded by every possible hack attempt from Chinese, Ukranian and Russian IP addresses on every possible port, using every possible method all day, every day.

You should seriously go buy a router/firewall right now.

7 - 9 is normal performance for hitting a WAN gateway. Generally your Gateway should be your router, that's the point of having a gateway in the first place.


There isn't "mixed" information. There's a bunch of copy pasted information from various forums, and there is me. I am network administrator, that's why I get so upset when I see this garbage. The whole logic behind these troubleshooting steps is incorrect, they don't do anything. They just break other features that people will eventually encounter.
76561198240032426 May 10, 2018 @ 3:07pm 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
I seriously hope you are not connecting your PC directly to the internet without a firewall?
That is incredibly dangerous. Your PC is being bombarded by every possible hack attempt from Chinese, Ukranian and Russian IP addresses on every possible port, using every possible method all day, every day.

You should seriously go buy a router/firewall right now.

I like to live on the edge, just like I never use a condom!!!!

My firewall is from software installed on my pc and I have never got attacked or gotten a virus that I didnt mistakenly install myself (only happened once, I swear!), I prefer not using a router and its not needed especially if you're the only person on the line.


Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
There isn't "mixed" information. There's a bunch of copy pasted information from various forums, and there is me. I am network administrator, that's why I get so upset when I see this garbage. The whole logic behind these troubleshooting steps is incorrect, they don't do anything. They just break other features that people will eventually encounter.

What..... You have a superiority complex or something? You realize that you aren't the only "network admin" posting in the forums or making vids, guides and articles? So you're the only right one in the Internets and everyone else is wrong? Network administrations isn't a hard job to get and doesn't even pay that well. A truck driver makes $40 an hour here in the US just like an admin, so I can easily imagine since you're in canada you would get less as an admin.

I really Can't help but to question your form of thinking a lot now and I am probably right that you're most likely a newly grad, are a job only procedure, and only follow the books you've read person. Every company handles their network differently, same with vendors. Just because a vendor doesn't support or encourage a certain setting or practice doesn't necessarily means its wrong, just look at overclocking, that wasn't something supported or reasonable at a certain time and now overclocking is the mainstream and the standard.

This goes beyond whats right or wrong now this is now about your terrible attitude, arrogance and ignorance. From what I am reading a lot of these NIC settings also has to do with what piece of hardware you want managing the information, turning off a certain setting could mean you want windows to handle it or your NIC and some times these NIC settings affect windows networking stack.....

Yeah, I think I'll trust the network admins of blizzard and Microsoft instead, cause if they are hothead wanna be hotshots at least its justified. Instead of some bum arrogant Canadian running a network for his neighborhood petshop.
Last edited by Helbrecht; May 10, 2018 @ 3:51pm
Bad_Conduct May 10, 2018 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by Helbrecht:
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
I seriously hope you are not connecting your PC directly to the internet without a firewall?
That is incredibly dangerous. Your PC is being bombarded by every possible hack attempt from Chinese, Ukranian and Russian IP addresses on every possible port, using every possible method all day, every day.

You should seriously go buy a router/firewall right now.

I like to live on the edge, just like I never use a condom!!!!

My firewall is from software installed on my pc and I have never got attacked or gotten a virus that I didnt mistakenly install myself (only happened once, I swear!), I prefer not using a router and its not needed especially if you're the only person on the line.


Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
There isn't "mixed" information. There's a bunch of copy pasted information from various forums, and there is me. I am network administrator, that's why I get so upset when I see this garbage. The whole logic behind these troubleshooting steps is incorrect, they don't do anything. They just break other features that people will eventually encounter.

What..... You have a superiority complex or something? You realize that you aren't the only "network admin" posting in the forums or making vids, guides and articles? So you're the only right one in the Internets and everyone else is wrong? Network administrations isn't a hard job to get and doesn't even pay that well. A truck driver makes $40 an hour here in the US just like an admin, so I can easily imagine since you're in canada you would get less as an admin.

I really Can't help but to question your form of thinking a lot now and I am probably right that you're most likely a newly grad, are a job only procedure, and only follow the books you've read person. Every company handles their network differently, same with vendors. Just because a vendor doesn't support or encourage a certain setting or practice doesn't necessarily means its wrong, just look at overclocking, that wasn't something supported or reasonable at a certain time and now overclocking is the mainstream and the standard.

This goes beyond whats right or wrong now this is now about your terrible attitude, arrogance and ignorance. From what I am reading a lot of these NIC settings also has to do with what piece of hardware you want managing the information, turning off a certain setting could mean you want windows to handle it or your NIC and some times these NIC settings affect windows networking stack.....

Yeah, I think I'll trust the network admins of blizzard and Microsoft instead, cause if they are hothead wanna be hotshots at least its justified. Instead of some bum arrogant Canadian running a network for his neighborhood petshop.


The further up I moved in my career, the more I realized how bad most of the advice I read online has been.

Having your NIC handle things at 1Gbps in a NAT will have zero impact on any traffic leaving your modem. The only time I would make these changes would be if I actually called Microsoft, Intel or Blizzard and they advised me to do so and explained why. Many of those options are legacy troubleshooting features.

If the author of that document knew what a DHCP Lease was, he would delete that whole /release, /renew part.

Then again, I'm now arguing with a guy who has no idea what I'm talking about, but doesn't even use a basic router to keep his PC safe.

So why do I even bother...?

I understand that arrogant people will never change their behaviour, I only post these rebuttles so that people who are not so arrorgant understand that making these changes will not only not solve their problem, but will introduce other problems down the line.
Last edited by Bad_Conduct; May 10, 2018 @ 4:29pm
Bad_Conduct May 10, 2018 @ 5:50pm 
just look at overclocking, that wasn't something supported or reasonable at a certain time and now overclocking is the mainstream and the standard.

Back in the day, overclocking generally involved soldering missing switches together and installing new capacitors. Custom built loops for cooling.

This is all mainstream now, Motherboards include the overclocking features by default, and the processors are unlocked by design. You can buy an all in one liquid cooling kit from the store.

The risk/reward ratio is much lower than it used to be. But you are taking massive CPU overheat using a Firewall application, and very little cost savings by not having a dedicated Firewall appliance.
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