Substitute for Ryu

[Jowan]

what is an easy to learn and strong in tier list character that I can play? Ken is not working for me, stuck in ultra bronze forever

[RaGe]

I'm in the same position as you. I still play Ryu though, slowly pushing through Silver. Tough as hell. I played a little Akuma and it was quite easy in terms of controls for me, but of course, to be able to play to a higher level you'd have to learn the tougher combos which I haven't done, I just play Akuma as Ryu with higher damage potential and more crush counter buttons.

[Jowan]

I´m thinking about purchasing akuma, but he´s considered the toughest in the learning curve

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by Moist von Lipwig:

I´m thinking about purchasing akuma, but he´s considered the toughest in the learning curve

Thoughest?
Who told you that joke?
Thoughest of the Shotos maybe, Thoughest character? Thats something he can dream of.

[Major7_BR | @belmontegameroom]

Akuma is good. He was the first and only that I've purchased with my FM until Zeku. I lost the initial battles, his timing is a little different but definetely worth it. I constantly switched between Ryu and Ken before, went to Akuma, and then ran through different cycles. Ryu led me to silver, though.

[WickedRequiem]

...we can always use more Necalli players.

Easiest is probably Guile or Boxer (Balrog), though.

[Son Samurai]

Originally posted by Moist von Lipwig:

what is an easy to learn and strong in tier list character that I can play? Ken is not working for me, stuck in ultra bronze forever

Tiers dont matter in bronze. Get better with antiairs and doing full punish combos and youll be out of bronze easily.

And NEVER GO FULL YOLO KEN!!!

[lanepi]

Originally posted by Moist von Lipwig:

what is an easy to learn and strong in tier list character that I can play? Ken is not working for me, stuck in ultra bronze forever

as some has suggested Akuma, Guile, Balrog which are top tier with Guile being easier to learn and use out of the three in my view.

I don't know how long you been playing but if you're in around 30 hours in the game i suggest sticking with Ken and Ryu even though Ryu is low in terms of tier and Ken is about mid tier. Just take a look at aspect of your game.

I'm stuck at bronze, so lets look at the matches i lost and see what i done. reaching Ultra Bronze means you probably have some gimmicks and some knowledge of the character. I suggest building onto it. Should you anti-air more? Are you jumping too much? Are you throwing too much? etc. I'm happy to play you a quick set and might see somethings to help you improve I'm sure other's around are willing too.

I'm by no means good, I think I'm okish, ranked and floating between silver and normal silver with my Kolin which is a character considered to be a low tier and yet this was the character that clicked and allowed me to get to super silver.

My Ken is terrible but my Ryu is around ultra bronze - low silverish level and I still main a Ryu outside of rank for fun and it gives me a better understanding of the fundamentals when I use him as I say he has less options than my Kolin.

It's only my guess but do you get CC by the opponent a lot and get thrown? If this is the case you might be using DP a bit too much. Whenever I play against a Ken and win against them they are usually Ken's who do too much tatsu to get in the distance and too much DP which i end up blocking for a CC.

I suggest sticking with the character a bit longer to see. If you want an easy root to silver and float between silver and Bronze then it would be Abigail. He has cheap gimmicks but the longer you sue them and not see the core game the longer you be stuck in the same rank. Don't get me wrong I think it;s difficult to be good at Abigail but for new users at bronze league it's easy to spam his charge to either a throw or flipkick and in Bronze League most don't know what to do to counter but once in silver you find these gimmicks won't work against these more experienced players.

[Tonini]

All characters are legit to start with, except Juri, Dhalsim and menat.

Good charge characters to start with? Balrog and M.Bison

Good qc characters to start with (aside from ken/ryu)? Nash, cammy

Also, Ed...

[JBM]

If you don't need them to be shoto as a requirement, I'd say Cammy, by far. She is designed to be a beginner character. Literally everything she does, every combo, normal etc. is intuitive, efficient... her v-trigger is probably the simplest in the game, her confirms are easier than with other characters, her combos into CA are very generous (ie, try to cancel Ibuki's dp into CA and then try to do the same with Cammy), her meter management is easy (you practically don't incorporate EX moves in your standard game plan, as with other characters), her CA can whiff punish or projectile punish on reaction from almost full screen, she has very fast walk speed, she doesn't have much command normals, her execution is generally generous...
I honestly don't see any other character being in the same universe with her regarding how easy and comfortable she is to control and use.

[CrunchyBiscuit]

Yeah, Cammy is rather user friendly.

But she has no projectile and her bread and butter cross-up is a light kick, which requires stricter timing (later) than ruy's medium kick cross-up to combo. She has a lot of other good moves to start a combo with though, but they ofter require the correct distance to be useful (divekick, V-skill).

Ryu is pretty solid (but more predictable).

You might like Necalli, pretty straightforward character, but no projectiles either.

Maybe Nash, he does have projectiles, but is a slow mover and doesn't have a good partially invincible ex-move that you can spam during wake up.

Ah what the heck, just go with Guile! Can't go wrong there ;D

[Brandon]

So basically you're looking for gimmicks to carry you out of bronze?

Just play Ryu and learn to play solid.

[JBM]

But she has no projectile and her bread and butter cross-up is a light kick, which requires stricter timing (later) than ruy's medium kick cross-up to combo. She has a lot of other good moves to start a combo with though, but they ofter require the correct distance to be useful (divekick, V-skill).

The crossup thing is true, yes. But lack of a projectile (in my book at least) is good for a beginner character - also, she lacks an overhead command normal. I mean, it's good in the sense that "you can't get confused by firebal utility if you don't have fireballs":)
I think Cammy is perfect for getting solid at fundamentals of sfv - or a fighting game in general.

[lanepi]

Originally posted by Doolio:

But she has no projectile and her bread and butter cross-up is a light kick, which requires stricter timing (later) than ruy's medium kick cross-up to combo. She has a lot of other good moves to start a combo with though, but they ofter require the correct distance to be useful (divekick, V-skill).

The crossup thing is true, yes. But lack of a projectile (in my book at least) is good for a beginner character - also, she lacks an overhead command normal. I mean, it's good in the sense that "you can't get confused by firebal utility if you don't have fireballs":)
I think Cammy is perfect for getting solid at fundamentals of sfv - or a fighting game in general.

You guys made some good recommendations totally forgot that Cammy is actually one of the best to learn the basics and whiles he doesn't have projectiles she does have coutners and ways to avoid it (that spinning technique that she does which is a good tool to get close and coutner fireballs). With her being faster also gives them a little insight to learn to bait opponents to use throws, specials to get countered.

[WickedRequiem]

Yeah, but Cammy also has one of the lowest life in the game, iirc.
For a newer player, I think a character with a larger life bar is ideal.

[X]

How about Guile, who is also a fundamentals-based character? Daigo picks him in exchange for Ryu, so I guess you can play him like Ryu but with charge moves.