Sanwa/Seimitsu/Hayabusa Levers

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I'm still waiting for my fightstick (Blazblue Chronophantasma stick) mod to finish and once it does it will be my first stick with a sanwa lever.

So far all of my sticks use a stock leverl which has microswitches. Is there a particular advantage I could have with a Sanwa lever execution-wise? I mean, if I keep on dropping combos and special moves in a stock lever/button I don't see how I won't drop them if I have a Sanwa. Also, how does it compare to other levers like Seimitsu and Hayabusa?

Thanks for sharing some knowledge.

[Chef Eloy]

Hello, I have been using sanwa for 14 years now but I buy an octagonal gate instead of the square gate that comes with the sticks. It's my personal prefrence but I perform better in all fighting games with it. For me Sanwa performs the best. I used Seimitsu befor but not Hayabusa. I hope this helps friend. I think Sanwa is the way to go.

[IITWLLII -ES-]

Sanwa parts never failed me for 9 years, so I never had the urge to use anything else, I'm also preferring the octagonal gate for non-charge characters.

[kan1x]

I use a Sanwa JLF with a square gate, maining Karin in SFV. It took a bit of time to get used to the square gate, but i truly enjoy the feel of it now.

Any time i found that i was dropping combos, it was due to lazy execution on my quarter circles. The square definitely helped me form better habits mechanically within the game

[Brandon]

I love Sanwa parts, but I don't know how they compare to Hayabusa or Seimitsu because I haven't used those. I hear people love the Hayabusa sticks after putting in a stronger spring. And Seimitsu sticks supposedly have a shorter throw than Sanwa, which makes them good for more precise games, like shmups. I think they come with an octagonal gate too, but I could be wrong about that.

I've also read that Sanwa and Hayabusa sticks have interchangeable gates, while Seimitsu doesn't, but I could be wrong about that too. Just stuff to look into before making a purchase.

[hardwood]

Originally posted by Punymeyer:

I love Sanwa parts, but I don't know how they compare to Hayabusa or Seimitsu because I haven't used those. I hear people love the Hayabusa sticks after putting in a stronger spring. And Seimitsu sticks supposedly have a shorter throw than Sanwa, which makes them good for more precise games, like shmups. I think they come with an octagonal gate too, but I could be wrong about that.

I've also read that Sanwa and Hayabusa sticks have interchangeable gates, while Seimitsu doesn't, but I could be wrong about that too. Just stuff to look into before making a purchase.

Seimitsu levers all comes with a square gate, the LS-32 has a bracket that you can screw on top of the gate where you can change its shape, there is also a stock circle gate you can put on the ls-32 and third party octo gate. The LS-40 is considered the KOF lever since it was in the original snk cabs and that lever has a very short throw and engage, a V shaped pivot, with a longer shaft and a higher tension spring than the LS-32.

The hayabusa is like a (sanwa)JLF(you can fit all parts from a JLF on to the hayabusa) but has a slightly larger throw and engage, due to the different gate shape. it has a V shaped pivot like the LS-40 and the same swtiches as the LS-40 but with out levers. Also, a screw down gate so there is less wobble. Thats the only reason I personally use the Hayabusa over the JLF, is the better pivot, less wobble and better quality materials used. I can wear down a JLF fairly quickly compared to the hayabusa.

The only flaw about the hayabusa is that sometimes when it returns to netrual it can hit a direction( I think this happens because the switches are very soft and sensitive) so you can get some miss-inputs sometimes, tekken and GG players really shouldnt use this lever. They have complained like crazy about it too.

Overall, to the OP it just comes down to preference and feel and in the end you have to get used to the lever anyway. There is no lever that would make inputs or execution easier, it just requires practice. If you're having trouble with inputs its not the stick/lever or even the shape of the gate, its you and you need more practice. I also highly recommend staying with the stock shape that is square. Just practice, you may take longer than you think to get comfortable but eventually you will get it.

Lastly, if the stick cost more than 150 more than likely the stock parts are sanwa. Only the small cheap sticks come with crappy parts or imitation sanwas. here's also a site for references about arcade parts http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/introduction.html

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Thanks for the feedbacks. Now I'm more excited to get my stick. The modding took longer than expected due to shortage of Sanwa levers and hopefully it's worth of all the waiting I've made.