Question about the restrictor plate of fight stick

[delacroix01]

I just got my first fight stick from taobao (Qanba Q1SW). After playing around with it for a while, I really like the feel of its Sanwa buttons. Still, I'm having a much harder time executing quarter circles compared to on keyboard: my success rate is only 1 out of 20 tries right now. Maybe that's because I'm new to stick, but would it make a difference if I were to replace the default square gate with an octagonal gate? Since there should be a number of stick experts here, I'm interested in getting some advices for this. Thanks in advance.

P/S: I main Karin btw.

[Nichole24]

It takes a while to adjust to a stick, upwards of a month or two. You basically have to relearn movement and motions from square one.

An octagonal gate might help and is more beginner friendly, but square gates are generally where you want to be at and you'll still have the adjustment period regardless of which gate you go with.

[BOXCUTTER]

Octagonal gate is much easier to use for motion characters, as well you will do not jump upward accidentally so often.
I mean when you block UP from CROUCH position, on the beginning this transition when you fight is pretty hard to find.

It's because shape of the square gate does not lock your stick in the "back" position.

I assume you have SANWA stick as well, Octagonal gate is not expensive, abut 5-7 euro.

Also as beginner you could buy KOWAL Actuator, it will activate your microswitches faster, the diameter is biger, and travel to the microswitch is short.

I did use this one on the beginning, but I will be honest with you, after 2-3 months I switch back to the oryginal SANWA Actuator, right now It feel much better to me.

I think it was beacause I learn how to make motion moves, so KOWAL Actuator wasn't needed anymore.

https://www.focusattack.com/kowal-1mm-oversize-actuator-for-sanwa-jlf-series-joystick/

[Brandon]

I would suck it up and stick with the square gate. It's theoretically the most consistent gate between every position, and it's the most common type in the FGC, which matters if you ever intend to play at locals and need to borrow a stick or something.

Here's some good info: http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/restrictors.html

[ceeb]

I open my Q1 several times a week and tinker with it. I went back to the square gate for a few months but then changed my main to a charge character and i kept jumping instead of going from croch, to stand block while charging. So i switched back to the octo gate and problem solved.

Just try it out and do sets of ten over and over in training mode until it feels comfortable. Also maybe watch some videos on hand position, depending on your hand morphology you might find different ways of holding the stick work better for you.

[banzaigtv]

Originally posted by ᅚ:

Octagonal gate is much easier to use for motion characters, as well you will do not jump upward accidentally so often.
I mean when you block UP from CROUCH position, on the beginning this transition when you fight is pretty hard to find.

It's because shape of the square gate does not lock your stick in the "back" position.

I assume you have SANWA stick as well, Octagonal gate is not expensive, abut 5-7 euro.

Also as beginner you could buy KOWAL Actuator, it will activate your microswitches faster, the diameter is biger, and travel to the microswitch is short.

I did use this one on the beginning, but I will be honest with you, after 2-3 months I switch back to the oryginal SANWA Actuator, right now It feel much better to me.

I think it was beacause I learn how to make motion moves, so KOWAL Actuator wasn't needed anymore.

https://www.focusattack.com/kowal-1mm-oversize-actuator-for-sanwa-jlf-series-joystick/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/307780/discussions/0/348293292500698289/?tscn=1485402444

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[LockM]

Originally posted by delacroix01:

I just got my first fight stick from taobao (Qanba Q1SW). After playing around with it for a while, I really like the feel of its Sanwa buttons. Still, I'm having a much harder time executing quarter circles compared to on keyboard: my success rate is only 1 out of 20 tries right now. Maybe that's because I'm new to stick, but would it make a difference if I were to replace the default square gate with an octagonal gate? Since there should be a number of stick experts here, I'm interested in getting some advices for this. Thanks in advance.

P/S: I main Karin btw.

When i first got my fight stick i used to think i needed an octagonal gate instead of a square gate because it would be "easier" to hit the horizontal and vertical microswitches instead of "guessing" where they were.

Anyway, the problems you are having now will not change with an octagonal gate, it'll just shift them. While it might be a bit easier to find the b, f, u, d inputs, it can also be a bit more difficult to find the diagonals consistently than on a square.

For better or worse, square gates are the standard today, i say just stick with it, if you ever happen to be at a local fg gathering or even a tourney and your stick broke/lost it etc you cna borrow someone else's as they'll most likely have a square gate also.

Turn on the inputs when in training and go over basic inputs such as dashing, neutral and side jumps, quarter circle inputs etc. Surprisingly dashing and jumping is one of the harder things to properly learn with a fightstick in the beginning. See which inputs you are messing up and adjust accordingly.

Touching the sides is fine but with stick you don't have to ride the gate at every single point, when you input a quarter circle input you are not actually hitting the corner completely. You want to do a smooth and natural quarter circle motion, eough to just hit the microswitches. I only ever truly hit the corners when i do dp's, crouch block, forward and back jump, otherwise is simply pass by them when i input motions.

[delacroix01]

Thank you guys for the advices. It turned out that I'm starting to adjust to my stick more quickly than I expected. With just about 30 minutes of practicing a day, it's only the second day and I can already input Tenko and Orochi better than I can on keyboard. At this rate I think I may get comfortable with it in a few months, so I'll probably just stick with the square gate.

One thing I have noticed is that it feels a lot easier for me to use this 498 yuan stick than the more pricy Hori RAP V Hayabusa of my friend. I'm not really sure but it feels like the Sanwa buttons and stick are lighter and more responsive than the Hori counterpart.

[''Y'']

It's hip to be square!

[mrobson83]

Originally posted by delacroix01:

Thank you guys for the advices. It turned out that I'm starting to adjust to my stick more quickly than I expected. With just about 30 minutes of practicing a day, it's only the second day and I can already input Tenko and Orochi better than I can on keyboard. At this rate I think I may get comfortable with it in a few months, so I'll probably just stick with the square gate.

One thing I have noticed is that it feels a lot easier for me to use this 498 yuan stick than the more pricy Hori RAP V Hayabusa of my friend. I'm not really sure but it feels like the Sanwa buttons and stick are lighter and more responsive than the Hori counterpart.

Tried the square gate, didn't like it. Modded it to a circular gate via dremel tool, felt much better but still not 'right'. Then I got an octo gate and modded the mounting points and thickness of the gate to work with my hori rap 4 Kia, then it felt right. Octo gates all the way!

[Black Oozaru]

the gate dont mind me, im using a square one and its good for me, but did you guys ever changed the spring? I have a sanwa stick and i think its too loosie, its hard to switch the spring? and what lb i should use, because i dont think something like a 4lb will be good to me once it may get too harder, but im affraid that a 2lb will be not harder enought to change anything, and those things are kind expensive here to buy like 3 different models and try them all

[Brandon]

Originally posted by SoreN Whitefang:

the gate dont mind me, im using a square one and its good for me, but did you guys ever changed the spring? I have a sanwa stick and i think its too loosie, its hard to switch the spring? and what lb i should use, because i dont think something like a 4lb will be good to me once it may get too harder, but im affraid that a 2lb will be not harder enought to change anything, and those things are kind expensive here to buy like 3 different models and try them all

I've never changed the spring, but I've taken my Sanwa JLF apart and cleaned it. It's pretty easy to swap the spring out.

[delacroix01]

Another questions guys. For some reason my PC doesn't recognize my stick after every reboot, and I have to completely unplug it and plug it in again whenever I restart my PC if I want to play SFV. Is there any way to fix this issue?

[ceeb]

Originally posted by SoreN Whitefang:

the gate dont mind me, im using a square one and its good for me, but did you guys ever changed the spring? I have a sanwa stick and i think its too loosie, its hard to switch the spring? and what lb i should use, because i dont think something like a 4lb will be good to me once it may get too harder, but im affraid that a 2lb will be not harder enought to change anything, and those things are kind expensive here to buy like 3 different models and try them all

It's very easy to take apart a JLF stick. I have the stock spring, 2lb and 4lb. 4lb is really stiff and is probably going to be too heavy. 2lb is decently heavy still. If you wanted a little more stiffness than the 2lb but not 4lb you could slide the stock spring and 2lb spring together and put them both in. I have seen people do this before.

Personally I have gone back to the stock spring as I found i like the stick lose for my charge characters.