Angel looking bad

[Celinna]

as the title says im not a fan of this Art , this looks like more like a Combat Seraphim or something not like an "Angel" any chance you developers can remodel it?

as example the Angel from Heroes3 is more the one i'm looking for.

[Outrageous_Feed5667]

The badder the better. I love a sick looking angel

[MurlocAggroB]

If you're talking about the weird thing with a bow, that's not an angel. There's a more traditional angel that can be seen in some screenshots.

I'm generally pretty positive on the artstyle, but I do agree that that particular creature looks like a mess. Maybe it'll make more sense when we find out what it is.

[G3N0]

Regular angels in homm3 look dopey to me. Archangels look way better but still arent super cool imo.

The dual wield angel look is decent but I agree they dont need to be covered in over the top armor like they are from Warcraft. I dont dislike them but think they could be improved with the "less is more" philosophy.

[Mindeveler]

+1
They pretty much copied pretentious HOMM 6 angel.
https://i.imgur.com/OKb9kW0.jpeg
H5 started this trend but at least H5 angels only had 1 silly anime sword. H6 and 7 upped it all the way to absurdum.
It's not cool, it's not badass, it just... laughable.

Truly powerful beings do not show off like that ("look at my BIIIIIIIG sword!").
H3 archangels that looked like chad winged Ancient Greek warriors but were swift & deadly on the field of battle felt way more powerful than these poseurs.

[Elveone]

The angel looks like a mutant which is pretty cool considering what the lore behind it is.

[darkholyPL]

We need an angel that looks like Sanguinius from 40k. Now that's a metal angel right there

[Dalv]

I do agree, the angel in Olden Era looks disappointing. Way too over the top, a bit too childish. I'm still trying to come to like the artstyle, but I am afraid this is the very thing that will be the major downside of this game for many others, considering the grown up audience.
I wish that they at least didn't lean that much into the cartoony / blizzard style art with oversized body characteristics and weapons.

Look at the painting style art from Heroes 3 inspired by renaissance art - rich in detail - realistic sizes, you can't top this:
https://magdalenakatanska.artstation.com/projects/0nR2nw

[Paulus]

I'm really liking the art style and everything else about this game, but I agree that the angel really needs a new design. It looks more like a demon than an angel.

[Elveone]

Originally posted by Paulus:

I'm really liking the art style and everything else about this game, but I agree that the angel really needs a new design. It looks more like a demon than an angel.

That is the point though - they are genetically engineered monstrosities.

[Mindeveler]

They're not "monstrosities".
Their original design was "pefectly normal winged athletic dudes" in several consecutive games.
Also afaik their lore as androids/cyborgs/whatever was never officially implemented in the games and it's just "meta" knowledge from interviews.

[Elveone]

Originally posted by Mindeveler:

They're not "monstrosities".
Their original design was "pefectly normal winged athletic dudes" in several consecutive games.
Also afaik their lore as androids/cyborgs/whatever was never officially implemented in the games and it's just "meta" knowledge from interviews.

Angels are genetically engineered creatures, basically biological war-machines to fight demons specifically. Their disguise is as "perfectly normal winged athletic dudes" but that is not what they are and we are dealing with an earlier version of them in the timeline so it only makes sense that they are not that well made yet.

[Mindeveler]

Originally posted by Elveone:

Angels are genetically engineered creatures, basically biological war-machines to fight demons specifically. Their disguise is as "perfectly normal winged athletic dudes" but that is not what they are and we are dealing with an earlier version of them in the timeline so it only makes sense that they are not that well made yet.

You're making me repeat myself.
First, afaik, none of that is official in-game lore. It's just some scarce speculative information based on a couple of vague sentences from a couple of interviews and is on the same level as, say, Drew Karpyshyn's alternative view of ME's Reapers and their purpose which in the end never made it to the games.
Second, mechanically angels have always been perfectly normal living creatures: healable, resurrectable, poisonable etc.
Third, it's not an "eArLiEr VeRsIoN". In their speculative "cyborg" lore, they are presumed to have been created by the Ancients loooooooooooooooooooong ago, like centuries ago, not 15 years ago or so. It's been centuries since all work on them was finished.

[MurlocAggroB]

The angels have grey skin, otherwise they just look like women with wings. In what way do they look like "monstrosities"? The worst you can say is they look like the Seraphs from HoMM VI, but I personally like the creature designs in that game.

It's a little hard to make out the full details since all we've seen them in is the background of blurry gameplay footage in YouTube videos. I'm sure that, like everything else people have complained about, it'll look better in-game.

[Elveone]

Originally posted by Mindeveler:

Originally posted by Elveone:

Angels are genetically engineered creatures, basically biological war-machines to fight demons specifically. Their disguise is as "perfectly normal winged athletic dudes" but that is not what they are and we are dealing with an earlier version of them in the timeline so it only makes sense that they are not that well made yet.

You're making me repeat myself.
First, afaik, none of that is official in-game lore. It's just some scarce speculative information based on a couple of vague sentences from a couple of interviews and is on the same level as, say, Drew Karpyshyn's alternative view of ME's Reapers and their purpose which in the end never made it to the games.
Second, mechanically angels have always been perfectly normal living creatures: healable, resurrectable, poisonable etc.
Third, it's not an "eArLiEr VeRsIoN". In their speculative "cyborg" lore, they are presumed to have been created by the Ancients loooooooooooooooooooong ago, like centuries ago, not 15 years ago or so. It's been centuries since all work on them was finished.

It is not really a speculative lore if it is given by the creator of the series who attributes the origin of the lore to the "loremaster" of the series. You also do not understand what the ancients are, that they are not gone and that a lot of the "androids" they created are made out of flesh and blood with their own feelings like Escaton but also with an overwhelmingly singular purpose. The angels we see in Might and Magic 7 and Heroes 3 are newly made and not the original ones that originally fought the kreegan on this world - for ages they were thought of as just myths and they only appeared when the kreegan invaded again. Which is why they were also missing in Heroes 1 and 2 and in all Might and Magic games prior to 7.

Originally posted by MurlocAggroB:

The angels have grey skin, otherwise they just look like women with wings. In what way do they look like "monstrosities"? The worst you can say is they look like the Seraphs from HoMM VI, but I personally like the creature designs in that game.

It's a little hard to make out the full details since all we've seen them in is the background of blurry gameplay footage in YouTube videos. I'm sure that, like everything else people have complained about, it'll look better in-game.

They have no faces, just glowing eyes. They have feathers or wings growing out of their heads, backs, arms and hips and they also have talons similar to bats on their main wings. They don't really have legs or at least feet. They are in the perfect halfway spot between modern angels and being "biblically accurate" to be able to pass for something benign at first glance and then hit you right in the psyche as remarkably disturbing when you examine them thoroughly.

[Mindeveler]

Originally posted by Elveone:

It is not really a speculative lore if it is given by the creator of the series who attributes the origin of the lore to the "loremaster" of the series.

It is. For whatever reason, it was never included in the games so it might as well just be an idea they were toying with and nothing more.
It's like with laws - a politician can tell you many things on TV but until his words were written down and legally passed as a law, they mean nothing.

Also, if anything, writers hardly ever reveal actual "plot twist" lore that wasn't officially mentioned anywhere in the product yet. When a writer just spills the beans in interviews, it usually means that that particular storyline/idea/etc. was abandoned.

Originally posted by Elveone:

The angels we see in Might and Magic 7 and Heroes 3 are newly made

What makes you think they're newly made and not originals who were simply in cryostasis somewhere?

Originally posted by Elveone:

They have [...]

Where did you get that from? Is there already an up-close image of H:OE angel somewhere?