Why am i having trouble with the treasure islands?

[Yol Areebi]

The game has been rediculously easy on professional the whole game until i get to the first treasure island, where my four party members are completely worthless, a throwaway enemy does half my HP in a single combo, and I'm not allowed to eat any food (for literally no reason.) Ive spent a half hour throwing myself at this over and over again, trying different ways to beat it, (playing fast, trying to go slow) with no progress. This difficulty balancing makes aboslutely no sense, and I hear people saying this game is easy, and I would normally agree, but I would rather 100% yakuza 3 all over again then try to finish one of these islands, why the ♥♥♥♥ are they so hard?

[Girthquake]

Have you invested in your abilities? You can also fill up on food and drink prior to reaching the island.

[Yol Areebi]

Originally posted by Girthquake:

Have you invested in your abilities? You can also fill up on food and drink prior to reaching the island.

ive spent just about all the money ive gotten back into my abilities, and it always starts you at full health at the beginning if thats what you mean. I can make it to the first safezone with the healing, but after that, theres the two boss enemies with way too much health which 1 shot any of my companions that might still be alive (which likely 1 or 2 are dead already outside of my control) and it just isnt reasonable for me to be able to fight these two bosses and the 7 or 8 extra enemies constantly running at me and shooting at me, all on a single non-healing healthbar. It doesnt make sense?

[Titan]

Yeah I really don't know what your issue here is. The game is pathetically easy, even on professional. And the Treasure Islands are no different. Hell if anything they're some of the easiest content the game has to offer since you get to take 4 crewmates in with you and your crew are incredibly overpowered.

[Titan]

Also not sure how it "isn't reasonable" for you to fight that many guys. All of the enemies that don't have boss health bars are gonna have very little health, and you are given more than enough tools to handle every single one of them without even needing your crew. I think you just need to get better at the combat.

[Yol Areebi]

Originally posted by Titan:

Yeah I really don't know what your issue here is. The game is pathetically easy, even on professional. And the Treasure Islands are no different. Hell if anything they're some of the easiest content the game has to offer since you get to take 4 crewmates in with you and your crew are incredibly overpowered.

I would love to know how your crew are actually able to amount to something. Now, I tried doing the island when i first encountered it (base crew, all like level 5, keep in mind i dont have any DLC if there is any) and they were all incredibly useless. They would die in 2 or 3 hits, usually after running in like morons so theyre all dead before I can even get to the first safezone.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Forgeblazer:

Originally posted by Titan:

Yeah I really don't know what your issue here is. The game is pathetically easy, even on professional. And the Treasure Islands are no different. Hell if anything they're some of the easiest content the game has to offer since you get to take 4 crewmates in with you and your crew are incredibly overpowered.

I would love to know how your crew are actually able to amount to something. Now, I tried doing the island when i first encountered it (base crew, all like level 5, keep in mind i dont have any DLC if there is any) and they were all incredibly useless. They would die in 2 or 3 hits, usually after running in like morons so theyre all dead before I can even get to the first safezone.

Masaru and Jason on their own are overpowered enough, dealing insane damage to enemies and taking a decent amount themselves. They can die quick if you're just standing around not helping them. Enemies on treasure islands are incredibly weak, you could handle most of these islands solo without much trouble, having the crew members just makes it even easier.

[Yol Areebi]

Originally posted by Titan:

Originally posted by Forgeblazer:

I would love to know how your crew are actually able to amount to something. Now, I tried doing the island when i first encountered it (base crew, all like level 5, keep in mind i dont have any DLC if there is any) and they were all incredibly useless. They would die in 2 or 3 hits, usually after running in like morons so theyre all dead before I can even get to the first safezone.

Masaru and Jason on their own are overpowered enough, dealing insane damage to enemies and taking a decent amount themselves. They can die quick if you're just standing around not helping them. Enemies on treasure islands are incredibly weak, you could handle most of these islands solo without much trouble, having the crew members just makes it even easier.

Ill try it all again later and see if i have any more luck. Ive played all of the RGG games before, most of them on legend too (not trying to cringe flex i promise), so while im rusty let it be known im not a total slack jawed dimwit. Again, most of the fights in this game have been really easy but the first island just seemed like it had way juiced out enemies for zero good reason, making the only way to beat them to play like a total pansy over the course of 10 minutes (which im downright refusing to do, that ♥♥♥♥♥ boring.)

[APeacefulWarrior]

OK, in fairness, ONE of the treasure islands near Rich Island has significantly harder enemies than the other early islands. If it's got several baddies who all have purple oni icons over their heads, that's the one. It is pretty tough early on, I only barely scraped through.

But all the other treasure islands you see before getting to Honolulu should be incredibly easy, as long as you're investing money/gifts into yourself and your crew.

[Captain Flappy]

Originally posted by APeacefulWarrior:

OK, in fairness, ONE of the treasure islands near Rich Island has significantly harder enemies than the other early islands. If it's got several baddies who all have purple oni icons over their heads, that's the one. It is pretty tough early on, I only barely scraped through.

But all the other treasure islands you see before getting to Honolulu should be incredibly easy, as long as you're investing money/gifts into yourself and your crew.

Yeah, I died several times to that one on professional at first... leveled up my crew and Majima a bit, went back and it was fine.

[Bill]

Your supposed to play farther, do bounties (make lots of money and upgrade abilities) and also the 1st of the 4 pirate super attacks doesn't unlock until you play a bit farther in the story. Once you clear the first set of bounties and first levels of ship battles you should be able to unlock several levels of stat increases and purchase several $5k-$13k rings that give big stat boosts. Some rings that are part of a combo set are rewords from completion metrics, think one of them was the 50 or 100 friends metric.

[Jeris]

I put most of my ability upgrades into Attack and Health. I think I was level 4 in both (at least 3) before I did the treasure islands. That definitely helped survive ability.

But, you can skip most of them the first time through and just head to Honolulu to get better rings and more upgrades.

[Frate]

I agree with the op.
The first treasure island, with the 2 dual sword bosses at the end, that block everything is really hard to beat at the start of the game. Took me like 40 minutes, until I got it.

Considering it is the first one you encounter in your playtrough, I think that they should nerf them a little bit.

As it is right now, it's just and unnecessary difficulty spike.

[Girthquake]

Don't you think encountering a challenge that is too difficult for you is a sign to come back later, change your play, or increase your stats? Don't see why they should change it when it gave me no problems whatsoever.

[Frate]

Originally posted by Girthquake:

Don't you think encountering a challenge that is too difficult for you is a sign to come back later, change your play, or increase your stats? Don't see why they should change it when it gave me no problems whatsoever.

Yes and no.
If it would be a random treasure island in the middle of the game, I would agree with you.
But this is literally the first one you do on the first map, after unlocking the ship-freeroam.

From a game-design point it's wrong, it gives a completly wrong first impression of treasure islands.

Or at least, if they don't change the difficulty, at least give is an difficulty indicator of how hard they are, as they did with the dungeons in Ishin.

I consider myself decent at Yakuza games, I beat all of them at Legend difficulty, if I am struggling with them, the average person won't be able to beat it at all.

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by Titan:

Yeah I really don't know what your issue here is. The game is pathetically easy, even on professional. And the Treasure Islands are no different. Hell if anything they're some of the easiest content the game has to offer since you get to take 4 crewmates in with you and your crew are incredibly overpowered.

I dont agree. On second treasure island I also noticed that on professional difficult enemies suddenly dealt massive amounts of damage. This isnt a problem with regular attacks since they are easy enough to avoid, but becomes a problem against gun shots esp from bosses.

Originally posted by APeacefulWarrior:

OK, in fairness, ONE of the treasure islands near Rich Island has significantly harder enemies than the other early islands. If it's got several baddies who all have purple oni icons over their heads, that's the one. It is pretty tough early on, I only barely scraped through.

Yeah, this one.