Dragonknight or Necromancer?

[NPC]

Whats best for PvE tank? I feel like no one plays DK anymore. is the Necromancer just better at this?

[💫𝓗yp𝟹rspac𝟹💫]

Is not that no one wanna be a DK, is that very few people would like to play a tank. That means, DK's are the quintessential tanks. Other classes can be used as tanks, but in terms of min-max, you go DK... at least at endgame. Some people do use Necros and Wardens as tanks successfully, and even as healers instead of tanks or DPS's, but DK's are specifically tailored to be the best tanks.

The basicmost problem w the tank role is that--at least at PvE games w PvP--you won't have good dmg cuz otherwise it would spell disaster, as experienced players would eat the rest of players w extremely tanky DPS's at PvP... and everyone would feel pressured to follow suit on builds.

[DargonBlak]

To answer your question in general, i think most folks are simply bored with DKs - DKs have been around for a long time and people are interested in experimenting with new builds as opposed to playing the same thing they played 2 and 3 years ago.

If Tanking is NEW to YOU - start with a DK - it is the Best at "Tanking" in the game.

Woeler is widely regarded as one of the best tanks in the game. So much so that ZOS hired him. And to paraphrase Woeler:
"("Tanking", as a job is not merely "being Tanky", it is to manage resources and provide group support. Their is a BIG difference between "being Tanky" and "Tanking".)"

Many of the newer Tanks i have been seeing are merely focused on "being Tanky" and "Survivability" (through self-healing for example) - and Not focused on Group Support and Coordination - this actually makes them rather bad at "Tanking", becuz if the group fails, the Tank has failed.

Here are a couple Woeler videos that every Tank should review. Note at the beginning of Episode 2 he mentions that he consider DKs to be the Best at "Tanking":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nG0__ZRP1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkieXMZu_ew

[Halcyform]

They must have run out of available Everquest players to hire. This basic knowledge seems more than it is because ESO is mostly a casual game. Any regular raider (in another mmo) could pop similar concepts out of their arse with little effort.

As mentioned, go with DK if you want to exclusively tank. If you want something more well rounded, go with the necromancer.

[Donauwelle]

By Pure Numbers The DK is the "Best" (in most Grp-setups) and easiest Tank, however with the correct setup you can make all Classes work nicely.... Sorc, Nightblade Warden and Templer Tanks are just as viable as DK´s if used/build/supportet correctly.
When it comes to Races beginners make best use of Argonians due to the Potion passive...
However experiened Tanks usually want to go for Nord, as this players simply dont need the extra ress from Argonians and make better use of the additional Ult-gen and the resistances...

[Jack T]

Ive had a nord DK tank for a long time, cp700 at the moment, and was wondering with the new cp system if it was possible to get a more decent dps without making too many sacrifices?
I haven't had time to properly try out my tank since the update and am still wondering what setup is best now.
I have better dps now than before but pve solo, as i do most of the time, is not always fun with a tank as you may know.
Any tip?

[RemySaturn]

i see how you could think that but dk is alive and well. my main tank is a dk tank.

[Donauwelle]

Първоначално публикувано от Jack T:

Ive had a nord DK tank for a long time, cp700 at the moment, and was wondering with the new cp system if it was possible to get a more decent dps without making too many sacrifices?
I haven't had time to properly try out my tank since the update and am still wondering what setup is best now.
I have better dps now than before but pve solo, as i do most of the time, is not always fun with a tank as you may know.
Any tip?

Hell yeah ..... 3.500 hours into the game... i have 6 tanks (each class) and the best- mostawesome- greatest tip ever in this regard.... Is to get you some darn procsets wich do the work for you :P
Pick Unleashed-Maelstrom2H (or any other) a grothdar and/or any other set of your liking....

Generally if you are Maining tanks and dont wanna be the slowest in clearing Overworld/solocontent let sets do the work....
with the above mentioned combo i usually just "stack" up a huge pile of adds... use 2 skills and their dead...

There dozends of Procsets wich helps "full"tanks a lot.... just check them in your collection and get the ones wich sounds the most usefull for you...

[Jack T]

Първоначално публикувано от Donauwelle:

Първоначално публикувано от Jack T:

Ive had a nord DK tank for a long time, cp700 at the moment, and was wondering with the new cp system if it was possible to get a more decent dps without making too many sacrifices?
I haven't had time to properly try out my tank since the update and am still wondering what setup is best now.
I have better dps now than before but pve solo, as i do most of the time, is not always fun with a tank as you may know.
Any tip?

Hell yeah ..... 3.500 hours into the game... i have 6 tanks (each class) and the best- mostawesome- greatest tip ever in this regard.... Is to get you some darn procsets wich do the work for you :P
Pick Unleashed-Maelstrom2H (or any other) a grothdar and/or any other set of your liking....

Generally if you are Maining tanks and dont wanna be the slowest in clearing Overworld/solocontent let sets do the work....
with the above mentioned combo i usually just "stack" up a huge pile of adds... use 2 skills and their dead...

There dozends of Procsets wich helps "full"tanks a lot.... just check them in your collection and get the ones wich sounds the most usefull for you...

Thanks, I'll do that. I think I already have grothdar in a chest somewhere.

[Donauwelle]

Groth is just an example... its easy to get and provides a quite nice aoe... together with other aoe sets....
Usually i just rush to my target (while questing doing solo dngs) stack everything up... let my sets proc and its done :)

[nzguzzi]

Tank is basic
Warden
64 in health
Sword and board, use the taunt, throw heals, use frozen armor etc, unkillible.
Full leech set
Full imperium set
God mode
All your self heals, armor buffs, you can withstand anything, heal others, proc buffs, i love it.

[Jack T]

Първоначално публикувано от Donauwelle:

Groth is just an example... its easy to get and provides a quite nice aoe... together with other aoe sets....
Usually i just rush to my target (while questing doing solo dngs) stack everything up... let my sets proc and its done :)

I know, I'll just start there.
I stocked a ton of shoulders and heads from undaunted chests, I'll try some of them.