Even NefasQS is moving on away from dying ESO

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So another content creator who has done a decade of work and support for the game is gone, looks like ESOU (ESO University) will be shut down also.

People are leaving the sinking ship in accelerated speed.

Game is literally dying. 💀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ZiSKMkNfM

Youtube video from NefasQS explaining the situation of ESO quite well. It's not easy for players, but also not for content creators, it is easier and easier choice to just for both players and content creators to move on to other games, where we as paying customers are actually respected.

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I mean, if you really look at the bigger picture it's a bit more nuanced than that. Nefas represented and made content for a very vocal minority of the whole community. Personally, I'm glad that many of his requests have been ignored because if the game were changed according to his vision I probably would have left a while ago.

"Very vocal miniority" - 50% population decrease according to steam charts xD

*50% decrease compared to when covid was happening which is like the entire game industry since people arent in lockdown lulz

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"Very vocal miniority" - 50% population decrease according to steam charts xD

*50% decrease compared to when covid was happening which is like the entire game industry since people arent in lockdown lulz

No, compared to 2024's post-pandemy peaks. Compared to pandemy peaks its 69% player base moving away. This can be easly seen on sale charts of my no1 trading guild on PC/EU - we went from ca.20-30 players having (it used be like this for almost a decade) 0 sales per week to over 200. I can safely assume that all other guilds struggle with the same issues. There are no more queues for prime time Cyrodiil either despite reduced population limits. Random bgs take forever to queue. My progressive raiding groups are slowly moving to other games too. Basicly all whats left are mostly solo players, but guess what will happen after TES6 release?

[WarPigeon]

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I mean, if you really look at the bigger picture it's a bit more nuanced than that. Nefas represented and made content for a very vocal minority of the whole community. Personally, I'm glad that many of his requests have been ignored because if the game were changed according to his vision I probably would have left a while ago.

"Very vocal miniority" - 50% population decrease according to steam charts xD

It seems their sales haven't dropped much compared to last year though (at least to Steam's profit rankings), so yes, a very vocal minority of the customers who still spend money on the game.

[Commancho]

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"Very vocal miniority" - 50% population decrease according to steam charts xD

It seems their sales haven't dropped much compared to last year though (at least to Steam's profit rankings), so yes, a very vocal minority of the customers who still spend money on the game.

They wouldn't change their release schedule if this was the truth.

[WarPigeon]

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It seems their sales haven't dropped much compared to last year though (at least to Steam's profit rankings), so yes, a very vocal minority of the customers who still spend money on the game.

They wouldn't change their release schedule if this was the truth.

Why not? We know from the Steam rankings that their sales profits didn't drop significantly. What we don't know is what they got those profits from. I suspect that over the past few years there has been a shift from expansion purchases to crown purchases among the playerbase. I've had this suspicion for a while, and the change in release schedule would seem to support that. After all, why spend all your resources on an expansion that doesn't particularly sell well and only brings back "fair weather" players who only stick around for a few months each year. It makes more sense to focus on the players with a more consistent play schedule if they are the ones spending the most money.

[UnderNewManagement]

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It seems their sales haven't dropped much compared to last year though (at least to Steam's profit rankings), so yes, a very vocal minority of the customers who still spend money on the game.

They wouldn't change their release schedule if this was the truth.

is the current release schedule to address those players concerns? cuz what ive read from them is they see it as maintenance mode... so it seems zos isnt making that adjustment for them.

[Lowbei]

nefas was well known by all endgame pve players, and him leaving was expected due to the game going into maintenance mode.

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It seems their sales haven't dropped much compared to last year though (at least to Steam's profit rankings), so yes, a very vocal minority of the customers who still spend money on the game.

They wouldn't change their release schedule if this was the truth.

Yep, in business world if something works perfectly and is highly profitable, they do NOT change it. Them changing so drastically their model means they do not have anymore the budget/personnel to provide that Chapter content.

In 2024 they already did cut HALF of their content away, mini zone and 1 dungeon DLC was cut off, the 2nd half of 2024.

Now they have cut everything away, and what is the "january road-map" they posted on forum? It was a few cosmetics/reskinned items and event exp modifiers. And pre-view stream.. to preview future preview (in april lol) of future possible content.

So NO actual new content. Guys, who have played other REAL games that bring in REAL content, that is new zones, new trials/raids, new dungeons etc.. NOT few tiny cosmetics on store or as event grind reward doing same old content. Wake up people. It's literal maintenance mode.

And there were people in forums saying "Thank you ZOS, looks like awesome january!". Have they played other games, where you get you know, like ACTUAL content? And not some crown store cosmetics?

The amount of copium is starting to be unreal already.

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nefas was well known by all endgame pve players, and him leaving was expected due to the game going into maintenance mode.

This.

Anyone who streams for a living, or wants to make even half of their daily bread & sausage money with it, knows from metrics (Nefas said all ESO related sites and content has gone down in user traffic and interest, known by anyone who checks such things) that the game is in huge decline.

Probably most of last people are just those who login for daily crafting writs and then logout, because it's a routine that done for years.

I have same kind of routine in couple games, even when i have times i don't really play-play them. So i kind of understand..

But yes, content creators know. They saw dropping metrics, and they have seen ESO cutting off first half of content in 2024 and now 2025 has nothing announced so far except small maintenance mode cosmetics and same old event exp modifiers.

Cancelled community live event because probably not even have budget for that also, signs of them having a tiny skeleton crew there anymore to keep lights on for a while still with minimal effort milkmode.

So who is ready to bet that they are soon announcing their next game? Any takers for what quarter comes next ZOS mmo/online game announcement?

My bet is on Game Awards this years, so gotta wait still to almost end of year. I bet it's a Star Wars IP game to "replace" the dead SWTOR. Gonna be a hard pass for me no matter what it is. For obvious reason. One can lose customer trust only once.

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nefas was well known by all endgame pve players, and him leaving was expected due to the game going into maintenance mode.

One can lose customer trust only once.

but one cant say it enough apparently. also i hope its a mobile port of skyrim anniversary edition they announce

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One can lose customer trust only once.

but one cant say it enough apparently. also i hope its a mobile port of skyrim anniversary edition they announce

Yeah well, we all have our own style of doing things..

I have my HDMI cables quite entangled in my brain and also some ocd tier behavior. So if i like and enjoy something, i really enjoy it and tell about it to everyone, but also if i end up disliking something due to clear incompetence or neglect by the game studio, i can't shut up. It is what it is, just gotta live with it. :)

I never have anything against other fellow gamers though, can be friendly even if disagree about games. But the companies themselves are free game. If they gonna lowkey scam their loyal players for money even with minimal effort, they better put on their big boy pants (and diapers) because i will not spare my swift kicks into their proverbial nuts. If companies have such. Well, ZOS lacks such at least. Am not a specialist what comes to nuts, but based on content, or lack of it.. can say such a statement. Also based on their censorship and hiding.

[Lowbei]

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One can lose customer trust only once.

but one cant say it enough apparently. also i hope its a mobile port of skyrim anniversary edition they announce

lol i do think that if they try to rererererelease skyrim again that would be hilariously cringe.

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It’s not about the content creator it’s about how zos treats its players / customers and fellow associates…. Look at the bigger picture. Use your mind

I mean, if you really look at the bigger picture it's a bit more nuanced than that. Nefas represented and made content for a very vocal minority of the whole community. Personally, I'm glad that many of his requests have been ignored because if the game were changed according to his vision I probably would have left a while ago.

once again no one cares about you no offense. This is not about nefas or you its about zos as a company and how they treat people. and many of the things nefas has proposed such as oakensoul nerfs happened as a result of him and stinky cheeks. I am no way defending him im just saying this is more to do with zos as a company than anything else.

[WarPigeon]

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I mean, if you really look at the bigger picture it's a bit more nuanced than that. Nefas represented and made content for a very vocal minority of the whole community. Personally, I'm glad that many of his requests have been ignored because if the game were changed according to his vision I probably would have left a while ago.

once again no one cares about you no offense. This is not about nefas or you its about zos as a company and how they treat people. and many of the things nefas has proposed such as oakensoul nerfs happened as a result of him and stinky cheeks. I am no way defending him im just saying this is more to do with zos as a company than anything else.

Maybe I'm not understanding you properly. I assumed that when you brought up "how they treat people" you were talking about how the devs ignored requests by players like Nefas. Is that what you were referring to, or were you talking about something else?

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It never fails to baffle, how the departure of a content creator, equates to the game dying for many a folk...

once again not about a content creator its about how gina bruno treated him and many other people and how zos treats its customers...stop being a corporate shill and open your eyes