best race for swords and magic?

[trxpzzhxzza]

ive got no clue what to call them i think its mage and melee. whats the best race and faction for if i want to play swords but also have strong magic?

[trxpzzhxzza]

Originally posted by ILoveRiyoChuchi:

Spellswords. Go Breton.

what class?

[blc]

sorcerer usually play with swords and magic, at least for pvp.

[Mr. Alf]

Originally posted by trxpzzhxzza:

ive got no clue what to call them i think its mage and melee. whats the best race and faction for if i want to play swords but also have strong magic?

dark elf is objectively best race for all dds, also very good for healers and not bad for tanks

[edg]

^ what Alf said

[ILoveRiyoChuchi]

Originally posted by trxpzzhxzza:

Originally posted by ILoveRiyoChuchi:

Spellswords. Go Breton.

what class?

Sorry, the first sentence in your post confused me. I don't know if you're looking for the best options stat-wise or if you're trying to create something more roleplay oriented. If you want swords (melee) and magic then Dark Elf or Khajiit are typically the all around best for damage. All of the classes provide magic abilities, so you can pick any of them. You're most likely going to end up using a mix of Magic and Stamina abilities anyway.

[cogvos]

This web page > https://eso-hub.com/en/skills/racial < lists all the racial passives. If you are going for a battle mage type then dark elf just edges Khajit on additional magica and stamina but Khajit have bonus crit damage.

Generally though the effect is not massive.

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any class and any race will do, because game will have upcoming update that let u choose other class skill line, everyone will be superman by then, no worries

[Ghoul Hunter]

I can tell you're a Skyrim player, wanting to do a dual wield build of magic in one hand and sword in the other, but the magic system is completely different in this game. You choose a weapon and 6 abilities. Everyone is basically a spellsword at heart. Just use a 2h sword and then have some spells on your hotbar.

Races don't have any effect on this.

[Mr. Alf]

Originally posted by Ghoul Hunter:

I can tell you're a Skyrim player, wanting to do a dual wield build of magic in one hand and sword in the other, but the magic system is completely different in this game. You choose a weapon and 6 abilities. Everyone is basically a spellsword at heart. Just use a 2h sword and then have some spells on your hotbar.

Races don't have any effect on this.

races affect your dps tho and other things

[Elendir Blue]

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

races affect your dps tho and other things

Race influence damage, yes, but it is insignificant. If OP was some meta chaser, your recommendation of Dunmer would be correct one.

However, I see OP more like role player, when they mentioned spellsword. Best recommendation would be choose what you feel like, in such cause. Because mentioned insignificance in impact on DMG.

[Mr. Alf]

Originally posted by Elendir Blue:

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

races affect your dps tho and other things

Race influence damage, yes, but it is insignificant. If OP was some meta chaser, your recommendation of Dunmer would be correct one.

However, I see OP more like role player, when they mentioned spellsword. Best recommendation would be choose what you feel like, in such cause. Because mentioned insignificance in impact on DMG.

if OP is roleplayer then he wouldnt ask what would be the best race
correct race gives you around 10% FREE dps, also extra 2k stamina is huge for healers/mana dds, same goes for stamina dds that get extra 2k mana

[Vyrtualis]

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

dark elf is objectively best race for all dds, also very good for healers and not bad for tanks

Objectively? No. Altmer are just as good as Dunmer in many Magicka builds. They tend to share the #1 spot for that reason. They each edge out the other in specific damage types and use case scenarios.

Race really doesn't have a big impact on DPS anyway. Even when Dunmer is top in Stamina builds, Orc and Khajiit are still within 1-2% margin. Hell, you can still play Khajiit on Magicka and be within that same margin compared to Dunmer/Altmer. The passives for several other races like Breton and Imperial are still within a 4% margin as well. Realistically you can play an off-meta race and still have high DPS, because the margin is so small with races and the biggest factor for practical DPS is in weaving and player skill, which varies wildly.

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

races affect your dps tho and other things

Again, race is the last thing anyone should worry about for DPS, particularly when the majority of players can't even weave properly or crack 100k. Theorycrafting the meta race is all well and good but that 1% extra DPS doesn't really matter when most players will never play flawlessly.

This is why blindly following meta is ill advised - they're all numbers crunched for the best case scenario and flawless execution. There are important real-play factors that are lost when you only pay attention to what looks good on a spreadsheet.

[Mr. Alf]

Originally posted by Vyrtualis:

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

dark elf is objectively best race for all dds, also very good for healers and not bad for tanks

Objectively? No. Altmer are just as good as Dunmer in many Magicka builds. They tend to share the #1 spot for that reason. They each edge out the other in specific damage types and use case scenarios.

Race really doesn't have a big impact on DPS anyway. Even when Dunmer is top in Stamina builds, Orc and Khajiit are still within 1-2% margin. Hell, you can still play Khajiit on Magicka and be within that same margin compared to Dunmer/Altmer. The passives for several other races like Breton and Imperial are still within a 4% margin as well. Realistically you can play an off-meta race and still have high DPS, because the margin is so small with races and the biggest factor for practical DPS is in weaving and player skill, which varies wildly.

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

races affect your dps tho and other things

Again, race is the last thing anyone should worry about for DPS, particularly when the majority of players can't even weave properly or crack 100k. Theorycrafting the meta race is all well and good but that 1% extra DPS doesn't really matter when most players will never play flawlessly.

This is why blindly following meta is ill advised - they're all numbers crunched for the best case scenario and flawless execution. There are important real-play factors that are lost when you only pay attention to what looks good on a spreadsheet.

Altmer is just worse than dunmer since he dont have extra 2k stamina and you're bound to mana build, meanwhile as dunmer you can switch between mana/stamina without losing dps. Also managing resources isnt a problem anymore since pve is easy now

"1% extra dps" ye, more like 10%. And you lose/get that much dps on character screen, no sets, no cp. This 258 wpd/spd from race passive scales into 500+. Im usually top 1 dps as khajiit but i just know that i would do more if i selected meta race, but honestly im tired of same race for all my characters

I just wish there were no racial passives or you could do "any race any passive". I.e i would get all dunmer passives on my khajiit character, cuz i wanna play khajiit but his passives are only good for pvp nb or pve in a very bad group where you cant cap your crit dmg

obviously you can have high dps on any class any race, but if you want meta you go dunmer

[Vyrtualis]

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

"1% extra dps" ye, more like 10%.

Stopped reading after this. Not going to waste my time explaining the nuances of build theory with someone who genuinely believes racial passives make up 10% of DPS lmao. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Mr. Alf]

Originally posted by Vyrtualis:

Originally posted by Mr. Alf:

"1% extra dps" ye, more like 10%.

Stopped reading after this. Not going to waste my time explaining the nuances of build theory with someone who genuinely believes racial passives make up 10% of DPS lmao. You don't know what you're talking about.

i finished nearly entire pve content in this game
talking about meta and numbers with people who do housing is pointless it seems