If no asia server plan

[Manhunter]

At least, should make the lower ping connection from asia and sea better to the server?
We're also expense for your eso plus and game content. many of us may select between paid vpn for better connection or eso plus.
If the zenimax team care about your game customer around the world then shouldn't avoid to improvement
I do not think this will be loss profit for your business but will improve more incomes from asia

[JimPappa]

Yeah been playing in EU server for 4+ years now from Asia. Game is not very playable now without a vpn. I paying for a vpn and ESO+ just to make it playable.

However 2 years ago this was NOT the case. Had ~180ms ping back then without any vpns, no internet changes from my side. EU server just has too much people I think. NA server performs better even though it is much further than EU server.

An Asian server would be so awesome.

[Manhunter]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από MMOGamer71:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Techno Bushi:

Don't playing words trick with me, people know what you mean.
you talk about logical then what about other country in all asia and oceanic? do you still thinking there's least people for marketing scale?

and you no need to talk in the name of ZOS if you're not even one of their team. that what i mean is do not talk in something you not exactly know in the way that you "confirm" that is the fact and someone is false in discussing because of this is the manners for globalization

Yes any business using their own internal demographic numbers for sales and services worldwide is a "word trick."

Just wow.

now you just showing how "stereotype" you are that's better shut up in community to do not let people know what type of your personality

"any business using their own internal demographic numbers for sales and services in worldwide" is yes, but not every business will considering this strategy without SWOT, Scrum and critical thinking to find a new opportunity. and i do not think Microsoft and Zenimax will have the kind of "stereotype" to judge the market

I'm posting this because of "customer right" for asians who playing ESO that we're also need a good service and quality. if this game only for EU or NA people then shouldn't collect payments from worldwide and allowing IP from other countries around the world

and the most reasonable logic is "WE PAID!" and this is not your concerned to says anything like this because of you're not the part of zenimax or microsoft and you're not even stake holder of this sake

[MMOGamer71]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Techno Bushi:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από MMOGamer71:

Yes any business using their own internal demographic numbers for sales and services worldwide is a "word trick."

Just wow.

now you just showing how "stereotype" you are that's better shut up in community to do not let people know what type of your personality

"any business using their own internal demographic numbers for sales and services in worldwide" is yes, but not every business will considering this strategy without SWOT, Scrum and critical thinking to find a new opportunity. and i do not think Microsoft and Zenimax will have the kind of "stereotype" to judge the market

I'm posting this because of "customer right" for asians who playing ESO that we're also need a good service and quality. if this game only for EU or NA people then shouldn't collect payments from worldwide and allowing IP from other countries around the world

and the most reasonable logic is "WE PAID!" and this is not your concerned to says anything like this because of you're not the part of zenimax or microsoft and you're not even stake holder of this sake

Do you ever intend to make your thread (on an open public Steam game forum) about ZOS, Bethesda, whomever board members making a business decision to not have SEA (which would be used by many countries) servers? Or do you intend to make every response a misguided rant about race, ethnic backgrounds or stereotypes?

[DargonBlak]

To install a new server, you need to consider not just the gamer population on the server, but also whether the location would benefit most of the potential users - and for the proposed area, the lag would Not actually decrease for everyone (and 3000 users is a small population)

Many Pacific/Oceania countries route directly to Hong Kong (undersea cables to the North) before being routed to other local countries, and the Hong Kong hub is the same location where all of China is routed - thus a giant bottle neck and where most Lag happens.

So, many Pacific/Oceania countries play ESO from Home->HK->NA->ESO NA Server.

This infrastructure was laid decades ago, and while some countries work towards routing through India instead of HK, it is a huge expense. Improvements are always being made, but not globally between local countries.

So, placing a server in a single country, like Australia or Thailand would still require other oceanic countries to route through other slow hubs (like Hong Kong) to get to the new server - thus not decreasing the lag for all local countries.

Thus, this is a bigger issue than simply installing a new Server Farm for a small percentage of the current users. But, since ZoS doesn't necessarily read Steam forums, i'm not sure why you even posted this here unless you are expecting nothing but "opinions".

[BCFreeman]

+1 to ESO SEA servers

[Robka]

None will play this game in asia because its too casual

[Samseng Yik]

The only reason why not much customers from SEA and OCE is because no server.

[Lamel]

Does anyone actually have a link that shows the playerbase demographic by country or at least regions? Can't find any link for that, everyone uses the argument of "we have a lot of asian players", "you guys are a very minor part of the playerbase" but i am still to see someone actually link anything to prove it.

Still, i find it weird ZOS would make a separate gameclient for japanese players if their playerbase was low.

Besides, i believe some people are mistaking the objective of the topic, it isn't even about new servers, but at least a vpn service. kinda like exitlag but coming direcly from zos and for players that don't reside in europe or NA.

I have seen this reducing pings from 160ms to 90ms while people that played where the server was located had 30ms.

[DargonBlak]

I've replied to this post before, please see above.

Server location is critical to ensure that the Servers and the installed proprietary software can be maintained, owned, managed in a controlled fashion.

No single Server, installed in a single Pacific country is going to ever be viable due to existing fixed-point routing (most of it goes through HK - again, see above).

And note: ZoS will never say this officially because it's bad press for them

[Hayley]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DargonBlak:

I've replied to this post before, please see above.

US and EU Servers are all in the US, so the Servers and the installed proprietary software can be maintained, owned, managed, and governed by US Laws.

No single Server, installed in a single Pacific country is going to ever be viable due to existing fixed-point routing (most of it goes through HK - again, see above).

And note: ZoS will never say this officially because it's bad press for them

"The European Megaservers are located in the European Datacenter in Germany."

[Space is the Place]

How is your internet connection being bad a problem of the devs?

Honest question. Private companies are the ones that own that internet connection and governments are the ones who decide how much they want to push those companies into providding the fastest services.

Only thing I know about Thailand politics it´s that you guys have changed your constitution more than 10 times in just a few decades and a lot of times after military coups so.... sounds to me like Thailand problems with internet connectivity may not be the focus for politicans in the country nor does it seems it should be a priority.

You simply can´t live in a country deemed as "political inestable" or with a "flawed democracy" and then argue you should have the same services as the social democracies we have in the EU, if you want that you have to fix everything that is more important and comes first than mere entertainmet.

It´s the problem with the 21 century, everybody wants the same rights as we Europeans, but nobody wants to do the job to get there.

[DargonBlak]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Hayley:

"The European Megaservers are located in the European Datacenter in Germany."

Thank you, i admit to being lazy on this one and have updated my notes