Getting chapters and DLCs for a reasonable price

[Gri-C]

So I bought the base game + Morrowind when the game was on sale for 8 € here on Steam. There was also a Version that included all chapters (Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and Greymoor) for about 20 € but i decided to go for the standard version so i didn't waste any money in case i dont like the game.

However now it seems like that was a mistake. If i want to upgrade to this "18 € Version" now, i would have to spend a total of 7000 crowns just to buy Summerset and Elsweyr. Of course theres no 7000 crown pack, so i would have to buy the next pack for 84,99 €.

To summarize: I would have to pay another 84,99 € to get the contents of the ~ 20 € Version back in the steam sale. Thats insane!

Now heres the question: Are the DLC sales the game has every now and then getting the price for Elsweyr, Summerset and Greymoor down to 15 - 20 € total or should i just buy the game completely new (as some stores on the internet still offer this ~ 20 € version with Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and Greymoor)

Thanks for your answers

[Gri-C]

Originally posted by Sweet Tooth:

Few days ago i said purchacing Standard is meh decision, but other guy said you can purchace all chapters version over this one. Dunno how, tho. And maybe it was a troll.

But if it works or you can make a refund... you def should buy all chapters.

DLC sales arent common, same with crowns and sub discount. Maybe 2-3 times per year.

However, you can purchace missing Chapters for in-game gold since its possible to buy those as gifts. Kinda legitimised gold trading. Exchange rate is 300-500 gold for 1 crown, mean 7000 is about 2,1-3,5M gold depends on seller.

If you will purchace 14k crowns pack, i can buy rest 7k crowns from you for 2,8M gold. Looking for someone with 10k anyways, but possible to split.

P.S. Probably you will want more than chapters, since DLCs are separate, and if DLC pack (Thieves, Brotherhood, Orsinium and Imperial City) still on sale, its musthave.

Looks like you have already played for a while. Do you know how much crowns the individual DLCs (especially the big 3500 crown expansions) are when they are on sale? Thats the important question for me.

I guess there will be a steam winter sale starting anytime soon with similar prices like the last sale. And I'd rather buy the complete version (in terms of chapters) for about 20 € and start over than paying over 80 € for the same content...

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by Sweet Tooth:

Even if game itself is often on Steam sales, in-game sales are really rare. Current 50% discount on 4 DLC pack may not repeat in next half-year. Nobody knows when. Dont count on those. But you can delay chapters/DLC purchaces until main game finished, which is few months at least. And if you're slowpoke like me, up to year, not mention best equipment grind, achievements, etc.

If you like ESO, re-purchacing ESO with all DLCs is best decision

^^This. Sales for bundles come up fairly frequently and although it means "rebuying" your base game it's still peanuts to buy any of the old chapters you haven't got. Christmas is coming - possible new year sale?

[Gri-C]

Originally posted by PlayGame:

Originally posted by MC Gri-C:

So I bought the base game + Morrowind when the game was on sale for 8 € here on Steam. There was also a Version that included all chapters (Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and Greymoor) for about 20 € but i decided to go for the standard version so i didn't waste any money in case i dont like the game.

However now it seems like that was a mistake. If i want to upgrade to this "18 € Version" now, i would have to spend a total of 7000 crowns just to buy Summerset and Elsweyr. Of course theres no 7000 crown pack, so i would have to buy the next pack for 84,99 €.

To summarize: I would have to pay another 84,99 € to get the contents of the ~ 20 € Version back in the steam sale. Thats insane!

Now heres the question: Are the DLC sales the game has every now and then getting the price for Elsweyr, Summerset and Greymoor down to 15 - 20 € total or should i just buy the game completely new (as some stores on the internet still offer this ~ 20 € version with Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and Greymoor)

Thanks for your answers

WAIT upcoming steam winter sale which should happen very soon. buy greymoor full version (not upgrade version) at around USD 15 u will get morrowind, summerset, elsweyr, greymoor)

I guess thats how I am going to do it. There is no way to tranfer my character to the new game then, is there?

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by MC Gri-C:

I guess thats how I am going to do it. There is no way to tranfer my character to the new game then, is there?

If it still works the same as it did 2 years ago, then you should keep your character. Back at that time, there were people who reported that they had deleted the game from their Steam library, then bought the "bigger" version on Steam, and kept everything on their ESO account. ESO keeps the accounts on their own servers (so the ESO account itself did not get deleted), and identified players by their Steam ID (which did not change). Can't guarantee that it still works that way, but haven't heard anything to the contrary either.

Edit: Added a few clarifications to make sure which accounts I mean. Also read the reply below.

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by MC Gri-C:

I guess thats how I am going to do it. There is no way to tranfer my character to the new game then, is there?

If it still works the same as it did 2 years ago, then you should keep your character. Back at that time, there were people who reported that they had deleted the game from their Steam library, then bought the "bigger" version on Steam, and kept everything on their account. Steam keeps the accounts on their own servers (so the account itself did not get deleted), and identified players by their Steam ID (which did not change). Can't guarantee that it still works that way, but haven't heard anything to the contrary either.

This is true. Your actual account is held by ZOS the Steam version only uses the launcher. If you delete the Steam game your actual account with ZOS is untouched.

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see why you will need to delete the game. When you buy the bundle including both the base game and the new chapters, all that will happen is your game will be updated with those elements you don't already own.

This means that you will retain your base game plus Morrowind and the new chapters you have bought will just be added to it. The chances are that they are already downloaded and will be immediately available to you on puchase.

Sorry if I have misunderstood the problem.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Turtleswatter:

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see why you will need to delete the game. When you buy the bundle including both the base game and the new chapters, all that will happen is your game will be updated with those elements you don't already own.

I was under the impression that you can only buy the "Greymoor upgrade" (not the "Greymoor Edition") if you already own the base game on Steam, and that the former does not include Elsweyr and Summerset. Can't easily check all of this info myself though, as I already own all chapters.

Here are the two versions for comparison:

This is the "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Upgrade", which contains only Greymoor, not Summerset or Elsweyr:
https://store.steampowered.com/sub/422596/

and this is "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor", which does include Summerset and Elsweyr (and the base game with Morrowind):
https://store.steampowered.com/sub/417044/

If the OP can purchase the second item while already owning the base game, then he does not need to delete the base game from his Steam library. But if he _cannot_ buy the second item as long as he already has a version of ESO in his Steam library, then he can remove that version from his Steam library via the Steam support pages, and then purchase the bigger version. I should have clarified that earlier, thanks for bringing it up.

[Gri-C]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by Turtleswatter:

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see why you will need to delete the game. When you buy the bundle including both the base game and the new chapters, all that will happen is your game will be updated with those elements you don't already own.

I was under the impression that you can only buy the "Greymoor upgrade" (not the "Greymoor Edition") if you already own the base game on Steam, and that the former does not include Elsweyr and Summerset. Can't easily check all of this info myself though, as I already own all chapters.

Here are the two versions for comparison:

This is the "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor Upgrade", which contains only Greymoor, not Summerset or Elsweyr:
https://store.steampowered.com/sub/422596/

and this is "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor", which does include Summerset and Elsweyr (and the base game with Morrowind):
https://store.steampowered.com/sub/417044/

If the OP can purchase the second item while already owning the base game, then he does not need to delete the base game from his Steam library. But if he _cannot_ buy the second item as long as he already has a version of ESO in his Steam library, then he can remove that version from his Steam library via the Steam support pages, and then purchase the bigger version. I should have clarified that earlier, thanks for bringing it up.

I just checked and yes I can buy "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor" (the one with the base game, Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and of course Greymoor) even though i have the base game with Morrowind. When the price goes down to about 20 € in an upcoming sale, i'll give it a shot.

I will give an update on this thread, if i am able to keep my character or not, so other people in my position will know as well

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by MC Gri-C:

I just checked and yes I can buy "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor" (the one with the base game, Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and of course Greymoor) even though i have the base game with Morrowind. When the price goes down to about 20 € in an upcoming sale, i'll give it a shot.

Thanks for reporting back! Looks like my info about having to delete the game from the Steam library was outdated, now I'll be able to give people up-to-date advice in the future!

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by MC Gri-C:

I just checked and yes I can buy "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor" (the one with the base game, Morrowind, Summerset, Elsweyr and of course Greymoor) even though i have the base game with Morrowind. When the price goes down to about 20 € in an upcoming sale, i'll give it a shot.

Thanks for reporting back! Looks like my info about having to delete the game from the Steam library was outdated, now I'll be able to give people up-to-date advice in the future!

I think the confusion arises from the very old versions of ESO. When the first edition came out Morrowind was not included. Then ESO made the decision to sell the Morrowind Chapter with the base game. Players with the very old game were trying to buy the base game again on sale with the hope that it would update and give them the Morrowind chapter.

What actually happened was that Steam now recognised the "base game" as One Tamriel plus Morrowind and gave the buyer an error message stating it was already in their library.

The only way to get around that was to get the original base game deleted and start again.

Subsequent chapters such as Summerset and Elsweyr have not such problems as they've remained separate chapters and dlc - never amalgamated with the base game. All you need to do with these is pick the bundle you like, pay for it and play.

One of the things ZOS is famous (infamous?) for is downloading all the new chapters in the first patch after release, whether you buy them or not. This is so that if you do purchase them, they are released immediately for you to play.

As a result your characters remain untouched, only the expanse of Tamriel for you to explore is expanded.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Turtleswatter:

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Thanks for reporting back! Looks like my info about having to delete the game from the Steam library was outdated, now I'll be able to give people up-to-date advice in the future!

I think the confusion arises from the very old versions of ESO. When the first edition came out Morrowind was not included. Then ESO made the decision to sell the Morrowind Chapter with the base game. Players with the very old game were trying to buy the base game again on sale with the hope that it would update and give them the Morrowind chapter.

What actually happened was that Steam now recognised the "base game" as One Tamriel plus Morrowind and gave the buyer an error message stating it was already in their library.

The only way to get around that was to get the original base game deleted and start again.

Subsequent chapters such as Summerset and Elsweyr have not such problems as they've remained separate chapters and dlc - never amalgamated with the base game. All you need to do with these is pick the bundle you like, pay for it and play.

Yes, you're correct. The last time I played ESO extensively was in the months following the Summerset release, and that would also be the time at which Morrowind was added to the base game for new buyers. The situation back then was exactly as you just described. When I wrote my posts here in this thread, I remembered the necessity of deleting the base game back then, but not all the details, hence failed to realize that this was a different situation than the one the OP (and almost all other customers) are in now. Thanks for taking the time to clarify this!

[Gri-C]

As promised here is my update since the game is on sale now. I bought the Greymoor version (not the upgrade version of course) for 23,09 €. There was a message at checkout saying I already have parts of the game (basegame + Morrowind) and will not get an extra copy of those. After accepting, the game unlocked all the chapters and the best thing, the character is still there.

Hope this also helps a few other people in my situation!

[Psyringe]

Great to have confirmation! Have fun playing! :)