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except truine and swift other traits i find useful, when i'm needing fast vouchers (usually i have good stash from green and blue improvement mats) - 50 - 200 gold at guild vendors.
70v - 100+v can go high on price (starting from 5 k for rare sets and some way higher on price).
as for something like 6v on armors mine are waiting. it is fast to get 100+v writ from guild vendors...
i was posting for gifting before destroying not bound items but at the end it was only waiting before i destroy them.
Blue writs as long as it isn't infused,swift or triune I would buy them ^^
Yes - Jewelry writs are expensive to produce - like 800-1000 gold per voucher - so a viable option is to simply throw them out.
They only sell for like 50 gold each - totally wasteful
If you were in a guild, i would suggest asking if any guildies want them - worth a few points with guildmates - and they may even kick back something you can actually use, like Zone Maps or something from the vendor like a research speed-up scroll or two
Like attunable crafting stations for your house, 200 vouchers ea.
A transmutation station at 1250 v.
Trait stones like infused, swift, triune for 20 vouchers ea.
Most blue jewel writs with swift are worth over 200 vouchers each so you spend 20 and get back over 200.
There are many more items you can buy from Rolis Hlaalu Mastercraft Mediator, such as blueprints, Praxis, Diagrams, so maybe check out the vendor and the associate as she sells the jewelry crafting stations.
As you do not belong to a guild with a full set of crafting stations the running around will be tedious, and maybe you are just not into crafting all that much, I don't know.
But to say they are "worthless" is only from your perspective. From mine they are worth a lot. Yes I had to invest a lot of gold into Motiffs, but now that I have them I can craft them anytime.
And jewelry improvement mats, they are outlandish. Why? Because they are worth it and people will pay.
But I like crafting and so it is worth it to me.
Anyway, that is my two pennies. I wish you good luck and good hunting.
People have said the _jewelry_ master writs aren't worth _much_. That's objectively true and not a matter of perspective, because a) you can verify it anytime by checking current market prices, and b) you can easily see that crafting jewelry master writs is extremely wasteful compared to any other type of master writ. They give the same vouchers as any other master writ, but cost several times more to craft per voucher gained. In almost every single case when you have a jewelry master writ, crafting it would earn you _less_ vouchers than selling the respective mats, buying _other_ master writs, and crafting those. Crafting jewelry master writs is almost always wasteful and a suboptimal decision, hence they aren't worth much.
You are trying to make a point that you can buy neat things with the vouchers. That is correct, but also irrelevant for the jewelry master writs that made up the bulk of the OP's stock - because you can obtain _more_ of these neat things by not crafting the jewelry master writs, as explained above.
My two cents says while they are useless from his perspective they are not useless aka Worthless to others. Also just because there is not much gold to be made from the writs themselves does not mean you can't make things that are worth more gold or that they don't have value in other ways.
ex. If I want to craft a set of "Law of Jullianious" Then I have to travel to where that station is. 200 vouchers will buy you one attuneable crafting station for clothing which you can set up in your own house and not bother traveling way out yonder. That has a value to me.
Also there is no Blue level of any other crafting writ that comes close to the voucher worth of a jewelry writ. I have completed blue writs worth over two hundred vouchers ea. so please don't try to tell me that they are all the same.
When I accidentally discovered you could use the vouchers to buy "swift and Triune" trait stones I spent a hundred vouchers on each and within 30 min had a return of over 1600 vouchers and still have several left. Yes I had saved the swift and triune writs waiting until I could find the trait stones. The lowest one was only 180 vouchers the highest was 250
I belong to a guild that has all of the craftable set stations , many of which I purchased the attuneable stations with the jewelry writs i completed, in alphabetical order in our guild hall. Our guild mates can now travel to the guild hall and craft whatever they are capable of.
Those have a great value to us in the guild. It's not always about how much gold you get.
I agree that anything below a certain voucher value is a losing proposition. It's smart shopping I think. But what else are you going to buy with all this pretend gold. Why I would guess whatever helps you have fun. If not crafting mats for jewelry then a great big mansion where you can decorate to your hearts desire.
Have you seen the prices on some of those Items? It is useless to me aka worthless, so worthless I give some of it away to guild mates for fun. The only value it has is how much fun you can have in the game with it.
Do you know about the achievement for getting eaten by slaughterfish? They have achievements for everything in this game. How much gold is that worth to you?
Some of us enjoy having the luxury of our own crafting stations in our own houses. It cost time and effort but we enjoy it.
Look, I did not come into this post to deride , condemn, or argue. I came in to point out that the items he was posting about are worth a value. That value is based directly on how much fun you can have.
Again, my two pennies worth.
Have a nice day
Most of your post is once again an argument for "vouchers are neat". No one debated that, in fact I explicitly _agreed_ with you on that point. So I find it a bit puzzling that you stress this so much. The point that I (and others) _did_ make, was that jewelry master writs are almost never a good way to obtain these neat vouchers (and hence not very useful).
It seems like you understood only one half of my argument about gold value, but missed the rest. Perhaps I did not explain it very well. Let me try again, with a concrete example this time. This will take a bit of time to get through, but if you're interested in getting vouchers, it should be worth it.
As you can see on Tamriel Trade Center, blue jewelry master crafting writs (at least all 7600 items that the system currently tracks) all reward between 20 and 30 vouchers each. To obtain these 25 vouchers, you of course have to create the item, so you have to spend at least 100 Platinum, 1 Terne plating, and 2 Iridium platings. (You could theoretically just use 1 Iridium plating and gamble on the 50% chance, but on average you'd lose more than you gain.) What's the combined worth of these materials? According to a TTC price check, it's roughly 3600g for the Platinum, 1300g for the Terne plating, and 15,300g for the 2 Iridium platings, so 20,200g in total. On average you're getting about 25 vouchers from the writ, so you'd have to spend 808g per voucher.
Now let's try the alternative operation that I suggested earlier. We still spend the same materials and we still want to get vouchers in the end, but now we will do it in a different way.
Let's _sell_ these materials instead - this gives us 20k gold. And now let's spend this money to buy, say, a purple woodworking writ that grants 25 vouchers. Average prices for such writs are between 1000g and 6000g depending on the details, so let's say we spend 3500g on purchasing the writ. Then we buy the materials that we need to craft the writ: 140 Sanded Ruby Ash for about 1400g, 2x Pitch for 200g, 3x Turpen for 60g, 4x Mastic for 2600 gold. That's a total of 7880g that we had to spend to obtain 25 vouchers, so ca. 315g per voucher. And we still have 12,320g left from selling the materials, so we can actually buy a _second_ woodworking writ and obtain _another_ 25 vouchers - and _still_ have gold to spare.
So tell me, what is the logical course of action when you want to obtain vouchers and have the opportunity to craft a jewelry writ. Do you spend the required materials to craft the writ and get 25 vouchers? Or would you prefer to _sell_ the materials instead, buy writs that are much more efficient, and get 50 vouchers plus 4440g from the same investment?
And if you understand that, then you understand why jewelry master crafting writs "aren't worth much", as people kept saying in this thread. It's not because "it's all about the gold" or because "it's the fun that matters" - it's the simple fact that actually crafting a jewelry master writ will always give you _less_ vouchers than just selling the materials and buying better, non-jewelry writs to craft. They are _objectively_ a bad option.
And please note, I've held this calculation as favorable towards jewelry crafting as possible. If (for example) you look at the purple jewelry writs that were talked about earlier in the thread, it gets much worse.
(First off, what I said was that jewelry writs give "the same vouchers as other writs". That is undoubtedly true as there is only one type of writ voucher in the game. You respond as if I had written "the same _amount_ of vouchers", which I clearly didn't. But let's not dwell on that.)
That's honestly a very weird point to make, for two reasons:
1) There are no other blue level master crafting writs to begin with, unless you count holiday writs or perhaps something that existed at some point in the past but was since removed. But for woodworking, blacksmithing etc., blue writs simply don't exist. What is the point of comparing blue jewelry writs to something that does not exist?
2) In several thousand hours of playing since 2015, I have never heard of a blue jewelry writ that rewarded 200 vouchers. Of course I might just have missed it, but then again, TTC tracks 7600 blue jewelry writs and they _all_ are in the range of 20-30 vouchers. All blue jewelry writs that my characters obtained in the past several months are also in that range. I've seen _purple_ writs rewarding 200 vouchers, sure, but not blue ones. Are you 100% sure that there are currently obtainable blue jewelry master crafting writs that reward 200 vouchers?
Vouchers in general aren't useless. I know what they are used for. Got around 700-something of them at the moment (need to check that when I log on). And I know what useful stuff I can get for them. And I know there are also writs that reward way more for less wasted resources.
But... *Jewelry* writs that reward only 20-30 are indeed useless - a waste of jewel-crafting resources for little return. I specifically asked what do I do with THESE and not others. Know what I mean?