10 Year Achievement Requirement Discussion

[Arcane]

So the devs are adding a new achievement to the game with Gold Road called "Adventurer Across A Decade" or something like that. Basically, it's an achievement that celebrates the base game and the last 10 years of content that's been added to ESO since it's release in 2014. The achievement seeks to acknowledge players who have played through this content by unlocking for players who have completed the base game main questline as well as the main questlines for all the dlc zones and rewards you with a skin to show other players you have the achievement. I think this achievement and the skin you get from it are pretty cool. Especially as someone who enjoys questing and playing solo. The one issue I have with this achievement is on top of completing the main questlines for the base game and dlc zones, the achievement also requires you to have the Hero of Daggerfall Covenant, Ebonheart Pact and Aldmeri Dominion achievements. This is a bit much I think. Requiring the completion of each alliance main questline would be a much better requirement here as that would follow the theme of completing the main questline of each zone the rest of the 10 year achievement has. The Hero achievements for each alliance aren't acquired by completing the main questline for that alliance. The Hero achievements are gained by completing almost if not all of the main and side quests for that zone. That's an inconsistent requirement for this celebratory 10 year achievement I think and more for quest completionists rather than casual questers just doing the main questline in a zone. I think they should change the achievement requirements so you don't need the Hero achievements for each alliance but rather just have the main questline completed for each alliance. That would make for a way more consistent, less grindy, less frustrating and more realistically achievable achievement overall. If they want to create the ultimate quest completionist achievement, then they should change the 10 year achievement to requiring the Hero achievement for every base game and dlc zone in the game up to and including Gold Road. But they aren't doing that because that would be a completely different kind of achievement than the celebratory one they're attempting to create here.

[pauljwright1]

As someone who also plays solo i agree with you.I am a player who started from it;s issue but have not played the game consistently and have came back to it in the last 2 years.

[Crimson]

Consider the fact the achievement may not apply to you just like many trifecta achievements do not apply to me.

[PCkukac]

Originally posted by Grr:

Consider the fact the achievement may not apply to you just like many trifecta achievements do not apply to me.

Just this! I have+/- 50% of them, don't care. Soooo many achievments missing, so what... I play for having fun.... or rage quit. Be happy it is not included Imperial City questline to. That is funny to complete or not! :D

[Zayrownd]

i didnt read all of the book the op wrote, but i understand that he want an "easy achievement" when the point of that achievement is to be at least a bit exclusive to old/veteran players, i have all the achievements required and not on a single character, but in all (bc achievements are account bound, so all my characters made me unlock those hero achiev)

that's a reward for people that actually play the game and not grind for achievements or skins, and if you want to grind it, its ok

but dont try to make them lower the requeriments or the reward will be ultra common (bc everyone can unlock it and use it)

[Arcane]

Originally posted by PCkukac:

Originally posted by Grr:

Consider the fact the achievement may not apply to you just like many trifecta achievements do not apply to me.

Just this! :lunar2019grinningpig: I have+/- 50% of them, don't care. Soooo many achievments missing, so what... I play for having fun.... or rage quit. Be happy it is not included Imperial City questline to. That is funny to complete or not! :D

I actually wouldn't mind them including the main questline for imperial city in this 10 year achievement. Since the theme of the achievement seems to be to have the main questline completed for the base game and dlc zones.

Originally posted by Zayrownd:

i didnt read all of the book the op wrote, but i understand that he want an "easy achievement" when the point of that achievement is to be at least a bit exclusive to old/veteran players, i have all the achievements required and not on a single character, but in all (bc achievements are account bound, so all my characters made me unlock those hero achiev)

that's a reward for people that actually play the game and not grind for achievements or skins, and if you want to grind it, its ok

but dont try to make them lower the requeriments or the reward will be ultra common (bc everyone can unlock it and use it)

Saying I want an easy achievement is an inaccurate representation of what I said. But you said you didn't read the entire comment so it's fine I'll explain it you. I'm saying I think the achievement should be consistent not that it should be easy. If you notice, the achievement is mostly about completing main questlines in all the zones. Not about getting the Hero achievement in each of those zones. So making the 10 year achievement either an achievement for completing the main questline for each zone in the game or an achievement for getting the Hero achievement for each zone in the game would be more consistent. Doing the former would make the achievement more realistically achievable while still preserving the exclusivity you're talking about. Most players who play eso don't have the main questline done for every base game and dlc zone in the game. Even longtime players. Really it's only players like yourself that have over seven thousand hours in game that are going to get this 10 year achievement the way it's deigned now. I just don't think that's the target audience for this achievement. If it was, they would have required the Hero achievements for all dlc zones as well and not just the alliance zones to make the 10 year achievement and the skin reward ultra exclusive just for the people with thousands upon thousands of hours in game. But they didn't do that because the devs knew that would be more of a quest completionist achievement and less the casual quester across a decade celebratory achievement they intend it to be.

[Mai Selph]

Originally posted by Arcane:

I'm saying I think the achievement should be consistent not that it should be easy. If you notice, the achievement is mostly about completing main questlines in all the zones. Not about getting the Hero achievement in each of those zones.

My guy.

The Hero of [insert alliance here] achievements are given for completing quests. Just quests and that's it.

The Hero of [insert DLC zone here] achievements are given for quests, delves, group dungeons and world bosses.

The achievement is consistent the way it is. Quests in base game, and quests in DLC zones, and that's it.

The only inconsistent thing about this achievement is that it misses Cyrodiil and Imperial City.

[Arcane]

Originally posted by Mai Selph:

Originally posted by Arcane:

I'm saying I think the achievement should be consistent not that it should be easy. If you notice, the achievement is mostly about completing main questlines in all the zones. Not about getting the Hero achievement in each of those zones.

My guy.

The Hero of [insert alliance here] achievements are given for completing quests. Just quests and that's it.

The Hero of [insert DLC zone here] achievements are given for quests, delves, group dungeons and world bosses.

The achievement is consistent the way it is. Quests in base game, and quests in DLC zones, and that's it.

The only inconsistent thing about this achievement is that it misses Cyrodiil and Imperial City.

It does miss Imperial City you're right. I wish that the imperial city main questline was included in this 10 year achievement so that all main questlines for all zones were included. I suspect they left the Imperial City main questline out of the 10 year achievement because unlike all other main questlines in the game, Imperial City's main questline takes place in a pvp area. And most casual questers do not want to quest in a pvp area because it would be annoying to be killed by a player while questing. Still though, Imperial City has a really cool main quest, I wish they had added that main questline into the 10 year achievement.

Cyrodiil has no main questline so that's why they left that zone out.

As far as what you said about the Hero of achievements, yes, I'm aware the Hero of achievements for the alliances are for completing main quests and side quests. I'm saying for the sake of being consistent with this achievement, they should make it so you're required to complete the main questline for all three alliances since the rest of the 10 year achievement is about completing the main questline for the base game main story and dlc zones and not about completing side quests in those zones. If you look, each zone has an achievement called Grand Adventurer. To get that achievement, you have to complete a certain number of quests for that zone. Basically you have to complete the main quest and most if not all of the side quests for that zone. This 10 year achievement does not require you to get the Grand Adventurer achievement for each dlc zone, only the main questline for that zone. But then when you look at the Hero of achievements for the three alliances you see you get that Hero of achievement by completing the main questline for that alliance plus getting the Adventurer achievement for each base game zone which you get by completing most if not all of the side quests in each alliance zone. So I'm saying the part where you need the Adventurer achievement for the 3 alliance zones but don't need the Adventurer achievement for the other base game and dlc zones is the inconsistent part. As the 10 year achievement only requires you to have the main questlines done and says nothing about needing the Adventurer achievement for those dlc and base game zones.

[Nain]

really bummed that the imperial city mainquest is not included. it had some nice setpieces. more players should experience it at least once.

but we all know what wouldve happened if it was included...

[Catter]

It's not an issue.

[Arcane]

Originally posted by Nain:

really bummed that the imperial city mainquest is not included. it had some nice setpieces. more players should experience it at least once.

but we all know what wouldve happened if it was included...

Yeah the imperial city questline would have been a nice inclusion for this 10 year achievement. The fighter's guild and mage's guild main questlines would have been a great addition too as those are some of the coolest questlines in the base game.

Originally posted by Catter:

It's not an issue.

I'm curious about your perspective, why do you believe the 10 year achievement's inconsistency isn't an issue and what do you think about the points raised regarding it?

[Arcane]

Originally posted by Nain:

really bummed that the imperial city mainquest is not included. it had some nice setpieces. more players should experience it at least once.

but we all know what wouldve happened if it was included...

The psijic order storyline would have been a good addition for this achievement as well. The whole Staff of Towers multiverse boss battle at the end of that was the coolest thing I've experienced in an ESO quest.

[The Chosen One]

It's not limited achievement. You will get there eventually. But TBH for what? They could made a little bit more effort for reward. I have it and I feel like I got a coal for that achievement.

[Arcane]

Originally posted by The Chosen One:

It's not limited achievement. You will get there eventually. But TBH for what? They could made a little bit more effort for reward. I have it and I feel like I got a coal for that achievement.

I'm not really sure what you mean when you say limited achievement. If you mean the achievement is not time sensitive and can be completed at any time in the future, that is true yes but not at all the issue I outlined above regarding the achievements consistency or lack thereof.

Regarding the reward, I think the skin looks pretty cool. Although you're right, for all that questing they could have also added a title "Adventurer Across A Decade". That would have been so cool. And also a dye you earn as well. I mean the achievements you need to get in order to get this 10 year achievement all have titles, dyes and momentos for getting them so this one should have those rewards too considering the 10 year achievement is the culmination of literally a decade of questing.