ESO in 2024: a dead game? Is it even possible to save it anymore?

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With all the last years low effort content (only Endless Archive was something semi-new, idea taken from another mmo) and the exodus away from the game by both the PVP communities oldschool players and Veteran Trial players, to a point where the ones left meme being the "Last Veteran Trial players", at least at the Trifecta level. The communities have become so small that it is sad when remembers the better times and years.

Is it possible to save ESO anymore? Do the Developers even listen the feedback? Do they even think and see the game as MMO game anymore, or more like just single player "Skyrim Lite"?

It feels they aim to just sell mounts and cosmetics and leveling stuff and Vampire Bites etc (that can get for free in game from other players, but not all new players know these kinds of things and gets milked) to grind money with minimal effort.

I know some have the good old sunk cost fallacy hitting, and feels needless anger rising, when has spent so much money to the game already, that feels the need to defend it in any case, or even attack personally anyone telling truths, even when the game is pretty much abusive to them also and do not respect their spent time and money. Anything you buy (sets, classes, skills in paid content, chapters) can be nerfed up and down from decent to useless every 3 months inverval so there never is a feeling of being respected or being able to relax and plan your goals, just so you buy the next thing that is buffed, on and on, meanwhile not having anything cool farmable even in the game like in other MMO games.

Imagine actually having most stuff in game as rewards and not in cash shop? Yes, that is how it is in most other MMO games. Can say that after played several other mmo games. ESO has been by far nothing but a Cash Shop front, game made to sell you Crowns so you buy cosmetics in a laggy, buggy game with bad performance. Would imagine with all that income they would have fixed at least Cyrodiil during all these years, but nope. They only want your money, not your loyalty as a player, they aim just to get new players that spend before they quit.

Do you feel there is anymore even a chance to turn the course of this game? Or will it just slowly fade away, with every chapter giving small nostalgia to the old ESO andies, but each time less and less, and faster and faster after update comes disappointment and player amounts drop back down and game feels lifeless and broken. Ravaged by greed and incompetence. When it could have been so much more, sad times.

Here is a good Youtube clip from a known ESO content creator Azura, explaining the greedy monetization model and backgrounds of the same points i am talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XunPmoW0Yf0

Watch that video before going into some reactive emotional anger towards your fellow gamers. If the ESO's own old fans and players say the same things, you know it's an actual issue. But for sure some gonna again tell any negative feedback is just "trolling" and try to silence.

Good thing we are in Steam forums where can say opinions on important issues that are impacting gaming negatively. And this one is.

How do you feel about this issue personally?

My own solution was to Uninstall ESO and play other mmo games until they fix things, put way more rewards into the game instead of 90% into the cash shop, and actually start giving the game same kind of effort and passion that was still visible during Summerset Chapter times. We as players, as their important customers deserve better.

With love,

Lelu, content creator and gaming news enthusiast

[Psil_Semilan]

Vermintide 2, og og og!

[Nhisso]

Автор сообщения: Kissing Fish

Most of these long threads are low key from some mods anyway, all day circlejerking and giving themselves steam points, cuz they're unemployed and theres nothing much to do in their basments.
fyi

This.

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Try to stick with facts and not come up with lies.

GW2: 4,185 players 24 hour peak

ESO: 18,471 players 24 hour peak

Try to stick with facts and not come up with fantasy land tales of how GW2 is the best game ever (I get that honeymoon phase is a thing but it's getting a bit stale now, find another method to deliver your message) when in fact, it can't even get more players to play it than SWTOR. Reality hits hard once again.

But i do thank you for bumping up this topic again. As i have said before, take note how proper content is done, with facts and actually entertaining posts. :)

Now that i have explained the facts again

Look up what "fact" means before speaking it. You'll have to go back and edit out every single "fact" once you realize it's meaning and you've been using it incorrectly for years.

and how other games have better and more fair monetization (that does not demand thousands worth of microtransaction like ESO does, apparently for you?)

GW2 charges $5 per bag slot with no in game option. $35 to max out inventory space per character. Or you can grind about 15 gold per hour and in about 5-6 hours of non stop grinding, you will be able to purchase that $5 upgrade with in game gold. Now isn't that a great deal?

Since you talk about such sums spent by others smells a lot like reflecting your own situation on others, must be the sunk cost fallacy hitting hard when you do this kind of false information posts.. cannot think of any other explanation. Did the Scamcrooti lied about you having a "lucky aura" and he gave you 4 x Crown Potions and no Apex mount? :LaughingOwlcat:

I'm sorry that happened to you. Now it makes sense why you can't handle ESO having 500% more players than your GW2 and is a few levels above.

I could spend a lot if wanted, with other games i just don't need to, i can just play the game and get free stuff by playing. :) And yes, i have more fun in both FF14 and GW2. It's a nice combo of other having instanced very good raid content and GW2 has very fun open world gameplay and WvW mode of open world pvp on 4 maps, it's like Cyrodiil, but actually works with good performance.

How sad is that you have to play another game to compensate for GW2 having zero endgame, dead development and ugly graphics.

"I play FFXIV on the side" isn't a good argument to make to advocate for how great GW2 is. It's literally proving otherwise. It's gonna sting very badly in retrospect once you realize that.

GW2 is a dead game, everybody knows it. It makes sense people play other mmos since GW2 has been having a really rough couple of years since the pandemic, specificaly the quality of content has become even worse than games like New World.

Wish everyone else a fun gaming weekend no matter what games you play, hugsies and kissies! :UDG_Heart:

Except ESO appearantly, since it easily slays GW2 in every single aspect and that is a no-no ;)

Big three is way out of your reach. Try figuring how to outmanouver SWTOR or Maplestory first since both are more popular than GW2 before setting your sights on a giant like ESO. Otherwise, you'll be destined to have to play other mmos to fill the hole, GW2 is full of them.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

"The big three"? You mean WoW, FF14 and OSRS?

Sorry but ESO is not one of them no matter how hard you want it to be so.

Maybe that fact has made some like a broken record repeating same fantasy? It is quite sad. :)

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They literally just have to update combat so it's less dated and floaty.

[Kenji Kndk (JP)]

This guy keep talk about "is ESO dead?" in steam forum over 6 months, he just a clown troll, doesn't he feel he is really boring?

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Автор сообщения: Kenji Kndk (JP)

a crown troll

What's a "crown troll"? Is it something connected to ESO crown store? Cousin of Pacrooti who senses a lucky aura? And all you need is more crowns to buy more crates? So you get 4 x Crown Poison item instead of anything good?

Please do elaborate, i am confused. Rude to call someone that, i have not used Crown Store now in many months after i quit ESO. Until they fix it and have different combat team that makes better decision and makes the game great again (i liked it during Summerset Chapter release, those were peak times, before and after.. then it went downhill), now it's just shade of it's former self.. it's quite sad to see. The misery on players when the lag is so bad, constant crashes and bugs, many cannot even get game started from launcher anymore.

Most developers of ESO moved to their next game clearly, they do not bother to fix broken things. :/ I feel bad for players there who are left without care. They only care about getting their money, but not giving good quality back. As paying customer should always get decently working product in all game modes if those are advertised to be there since start.. ESO has many players from Elder Scrolls IP single player games, that is keeping it's new player amounts decent, they try it, play for a while, buy expensive mounts and houses and then quit at endgame when sees and feels the problems for a while.

It's heartbreaking sad to me.

ESO always had big potential, if only it was managed better by the developers. :(

[Kenji Kndk (JP)]

I am sorry about that you wrote a long passage just because my misspelling :/

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Автор сообщения: Kenji Kndk (JP)

I am sorry about that you wrote a long passage just because my misspelling :/

I just woke up and drinking "morning" coffee, so no harm done, i like to then write replies on forums that i get pinged of by someone typing on my post or see something interesting.

So no harm done, hope you have fun gaming day no matter what game you play! :)

[Lowbei]

i do multiple 12man trials per day, but sure, its dead lol

thread looks like trolling

[firestorm]

Автор сообщения: citrussy <3

i havent played in a bit but calling the game dead is a bit of a stretch

also since youre doing this kind of post again can i have awards lol

i sware to god i had to look twice because i thought your name was crusty

[Calandir]

Автор сообщения: zukobach5

Try to stick with facts and not come up with lies.

GW2: 4,185 players 24 hour peak

ESO: 18,471 players 24 hour peak

Try to stick with facts and not come up with fantasy land tales of how GW2 is the best game ever (I get that honeymoon phase is a thing but it's getting a bit stale now, find another method to deliver your message) when in fact, it can't even get more players to play it than SWTOR. Reality hits hard once again.

But i do thank you for bumping up this topic again. As i have said before, take note how proper content is done, with facts and actually entertaining posts. :)

Now that i have explained the facts again

Look up what "fact" means before speaking it. You'll have to go back and edit out every single "fact" once you realize it's meaning and you've been using it incorrectly for years.

and how other games have better and more fair monetization (that does not demand thousands worth of microtransaction like ESO does, apparently for you?)

GW2 charges $5 per bag slot with no in game option. $35 to max out inventory space per character. Or you can grind about 15 gold per hour and in about 5-6 hours of non stop grinding, you will be able to purchase that $5 upgrade with in game gold. Now isn't that a great deal?

Since you talk about such sums spent by others smells a lot like reflecting your own situation on others, must be the sunk cost fallacy hitting hard when you do this kind of false information posts.. cannot think of any other explanation. Did the Scamcrooti lied about you having a "lucky aura" and he gave you 4 x Crown Potions and no Apex mount?

I'm sorry that happened to you. Now it makes sense why you can't handle ESO having 500% more players than your GW2 and is a few levels above.

I could spend a lot if wanted, with other games i just don't need to, i can just play the game and get free stuff by playing. :) And yes, i have more fun in both FF14 and GW2. It's a nice combo of other having instanced very good raid content and GW2 has very fun open world gameplay and WvW mode of open world pvp on 4 maps, it's like Cyrodiil, but actually works with good performance.

How sad is that you have to play another game to compensate for GW2 having zero endgame, dead development and ugly graphics.

"I play FFXIV on the side" isn't a good argument to make to advocate for how great GW2 is. It's literally proving otherwise. It's gonna sting very badly in retrospect once you realize that.

GW2 is a dead game, everybody knows it. It makes sense people play other mmos since GW2 has been having a really rough couple of years since the pandemic, specificaly the quality of content has become even worse than games like New World.

Wish everyone else a fun gaming weekend no matter what games you play, hugsies and kissies! :UDG_Heart:

Except ESO appearantly, since it easily slays GW2 in every single aspect and that is a no-no ;)

Big three is way out of your reach. Try figuring how to outmanouver SWTOR or Maplestory first since both are more popular than GW2 before setting your sights on a giant like ESO. Otherwise, you'll be destined to have to play other mmos to fill the hole, GW2 is full of them.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop.

[Irradiot]

i don't like the new effects ppl are using that i don't know of or can't obtain
it's fine to have new things, great, but i don't like the style or look, nor the op nature of it
the silly book that opens and a beam shoots out that everyone spams all the time, yawn
it's just not fun

[vior wolfkin]

YET AGAIN POSTING GARBAGE ! ... THE SERVERS ARE OVERLOADED ! ... PLAYERS ARE EVERYWHERE ! ,,, Yes PVP is in the mire ! but that is purely because of the selfish cheating few that can only have fun by making others miserable !!!! RESULT Those players you made miserable now will only play PVE ....YOUR FAULT THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT PLAY WITH YOU ! AND I BET IT IS THE SAME AT SCHOOL ! iF YOU ARENT THE STRIKER YOU WILL GO HOME AND TAKE YOUR BALL WITH YOU ! ..................PLEEEEEAAAASE GO HOME ! WE DO NOT WANT NOR NEED YOU !

[ringod123]

Автор сообщения: vior wolfkin

THE SERVERS ARE OVERLOADED ! PLAYERS ARE EVERYWHERE !

Overloaded? yes, players everywhere? Nope, not in the slightest, this is just how bad the games performance is after 5 years of ZOS sticking their heads in the sand after dumping all calculations on the server.
Oh and PvP is in the mire as it has literally been abandoned for 5 years now after they dumped the calculations on the server and added 5-6x the latency, which they have only "fixed" by lowering the pop caps down to 60 per faction from 300 per faction....