Poor ESO on steam. How low and can an MMO go.

[DG Dobrev]

MMORPGS stand on their own as GREAT games. Is WoW on steam? No. Is Guild Wars 2 on steam? No. Is Aion on Steam? Yes, but I will let you judge for yourself. Is Tera on steam? Now that I dont know, but I think it isnt.

MMORPG (and not in the Many Men Online Role Playing Girls meaning) is the quitescential word for a game that will let you dump not 100 - but 1000+ hours in it. It will make you play it for at least a year and keep you so hooked, that you would sell hours of sleep for game time. This is the game that will make you call in sick from work to go farm some more.

Ask yourself where ESO is, ask yourself what it gives, ask yourself what can you get for it, and go no further. Watch reviews, watch customer canceling their accounts cause of (reasons I wont list), etc. Sorry gyus, but this si the harsh truth. Nothing is ever easy. Thats the first rule of life. You either do well, or you suffer the consequences.

As a lifelong Sacred 2 and TES fan, I am sad to say that ESO failed. I would readily give up all my precursors and legendaries in GW2 to experience a great TES online game. I would grind and play for hours to accomplish that sense of completion after Skyrim, which I still play and I yearn to do a Legendary youtube plathrough.

So sad. And I love TES...

[DG Dobrev]

You can use the good old reverse-psychology all you want. It wont save the poor people who are bent on giving zenimax their money. A few times over :)

[Yawzheek]

DG Dobrev の投稿を引用：

You can use the good old reverse-psychology all you want. It wont save the poor people who are bent on giving zenimax their money. A few times over :)

It's not, "reverse psychology." I don't give a damn if anyone buys this game or not. I'm saying you were wrong in your initial statements, and I gave you definitive proof of it. There's nothing more to "judge" at that point - verdict is in, and you were wrong.

[DG Dobrev]

Stalinator の投稿を引用：

DG Dobrev の投稿を引用：

You can use the good old reverse-psychology all you want. It wont save the poor people who are bent on giving zenimax their money. A few times over :)

It's not, "reverse psychology." I don't give a damn if anyone buys this game or not. I'm saying you were wrong in your initial statements, and I gave you definitive proof of it. There's nothing more to "judge" at that point - verdict is in, and you were wrong.

People should judge for themselves. I do not see you owning the game and giving any concrete proof why it beats others of its genre.

[Waylander]

er... EVE is on steam and that's one of the best and most successful mmo's out.

and don't make me laugh with the GW2 comparison. Comparing it with ESO is like comparing my little pony with Lord of the Rings.

[DG Dobrev]

With all due respect, you either werent there, or you didnt immerse yourself fully into it. And I mean IMMERSE in the full meaning of that word. And I sure hope you mean LOTR like the books or the movie, cause with all due respects, the games sucked balls. If they had any hint of immersion from the books or the movies (and pls dont insult my knowledge as a livid LOTR fan), I would throw my gaming career out the window and join a monastery.

[DeadLine]

So if a game is on Steam, it's automatically bad? I'm sorry, your opinion doesn't make any sense to me. It's more logical to put the game on a popular site like Steam because Steam is incredibly popular which means more sales.

[Dwesa]

It's QuakeCon-related sale, TESO is owned by Zenimax and so is id Spftware. TESO is not integrated into steam. Your rant about other MMO titles not being on Steam is irrelevant.

[Cormoran]

DG Dobrev の投稿を引用：

With all due respect, you either werent there, or you didnt immerse yourself fully into it. And I mean IMMERSE in the full meaning of that word.

So you bought 80 boxed copies of the game, liquified them in a blender, poured the mush into a bath tub then slid in, thus immersing yourself, in the full meaning of the word?

[Niall]

It reminds me of when raves were good and then Trance came out and everyone danced around their handbags and the venues moved from the fields to the clubs. Yes MMO gamers, my analogy is refering to thee. I will slay you like thee goat lol Unicorns seriously? Go play some CS or Quake Live like real men do you bunch of bum bandits

[SeaGoblin]

i prefer games that are on steam, so i have no issue and we all know ESO will go free to play

[Niall]

People wanted Skyrim not generic MMO grind fests thank you "devs of teh fail"

[Dwesa]

Necronaught の投稿を引用：

People wanted Skyrim not generic MMO grind fests thank you "devs of teh fail"

People also wanted another Morrowind for the last 2 TES games, but instead they got generic medieval fantasy Oblivion and generic viking zombie-killing simulator Skyrim (sad face). And TESO is far from being grindfest.

[Niall]

Carybdeida の投稿を引用：

Necronaught の投稿を引用：

People wanted Skyrim not generic MMO grind fests thank you "devs of teh fail"

People also wanted another Morrowind for the last 2 TES games, but instead they got generic medieval fantasy Oblivion and generic viking zombie-killing simulator Skyrim (sad face). And TESO is far from being grindfest.

That's what I meant a Skyrim/ Morrowind hybrid MMO type game. Skywind will be here soon, yay :)

[Waylander]

DG Dobrev の投稿を引用：

Stalinator の投稿を引用：

It's not, "reverse psychology." I don't give a damn if anyone buys this game or not. I'm saying you were wrong in your initial statements, and I gave you definitive proof of it. There's nothing more to "judge" at that point - verdict is in, and you were wrong.

People should judge for themselves. I do not see you owning the game and giving any concrete proof why it beats others of its genre.

I will tell you why I like it.

1) Combat system, it is unique, with veriety. You can mix armours and weapons with any class. Be a heavy armored duel wielding mage if you want. I have my more standard medium armor stealth character but the options are there to do what you want.

2) Questing. I'm more of a PVP player and in the other mmo's I have played questing has been an annoyance more than anything. In ESO the quests are well thought out and fun to do. I still spend most of my time in PVP but now and again I can enjoy questing, enjoy being a key word.

3) PVP, the mass scale is not for everyone. Even I would like some smaller battles, but because the combat is so good everything else becomes meaningless. I simply could not go backwards now I have had a taste. It needs work, but even how it is is just so much fun.

I don't have ESO on steam. I have played since beta though, I had a week that I almost unsubbed after about the 3rd week because I was frustrated with PVE, there is a lot to do before you can PVP really. However this is changing over time. Already it is better and they plan to add more. I am very happy that I didn't though and ESO is going from strengh to strengh.

If people don't want to belive me then fine. Miss out on what is a great game.

[MarcAnthony]

DG Dobrev の投稿を引用：

As I said... I would play 20€ a month to get a good MMO version of TES. Heck I would pay more, cause this will be a true sense of completion, like getting the lore and the freedom of TES wrap up in a real bundle. Thats a thing to die for. I so hoped for ESO to be it, and it fell so short that it was terrible. Skyrim FTW guys, Skyrim FTW. Mod it some and it will feel better than any other game ever created.

Very understandable you got disappointed with such expectations of a MMORPG.

I truly hope we see another singleplayer ES game but am currently loving ESO because it truly feels like a ES game.

Seeing more and more complaints makes it clear to me people really lack the understanding of what can be done in a singleplayer game compared to a MMORPG. For some reason they think everything in Skyrim will work and is fun when they place more people into the same game? go figure.....as said my understanding why many complain is becoming more clear by the day