Honest review

[nerrath]

First of all, fan boys please gtfo from this thread. And sorry about my english.

I bought ESO first week of launch. Played with every every class, some of them good some of them great. Nightblade was best one for me since its rogue like. Questing is fun until vet ranks. Some of them are really bugged and progress blocker. Dungeons was full of bots. Bots are not really big problem in other MMOs, but in this game, eh. You cant even gather herb rune or ore because of bots. Ah and there is no real endgame. Zenimax are really slow, i didnt play this game after one month but when i logged last day, some low level quests was still bugged. CS are bad, I want a e-mail change so i sent ticket to CS, well still didnt get answer.

TLDR: If you like ES games, play this for quests.

[nerrath]

Xsorus님이 먼저 게시:

nerrath님이 먼저 게시:

Yes i can play tank with every class but when you want to get max benefit from skills, Imperial is really good for tanking.

And horse, normal horse in game are 17k, with imperial its 1g. Come on, its brand new game and its elder scrolls. You have great name because of old ES games. Why it that greedy money grab? It's pay to play game, let everyone start equal.

Technically Nord is the best race for tanking now. Also are you really whining about the imperial mount now? Both Rift and SWTOR had mounts available with the collectors editions...Infact that's the primary reason you usually buy a collectors edition, just for the mount.. ..Though in ESO it was less cause of speed (since that first mount is only 15% speed boost) and more about the extra bag space.

Both Rift and SWTOR are f2p now.

[Minty]

nerrath님이 먼저 게시:

Xsorus님이 먼저 게시:

Technically Nord is the best race for tanking now. Also are you really whining about the imperial mount now? Both Rift and SWTOR had mounts available with the collectors editions...Infact that's the primary reason you usually buy a collectors edition, just for the mount.. ..Though in ESO it was less cause of speed (since that first mount is only 15% speed boost) and more about the extra bag space.

Both Rift and SWTOR are f2p now.

That doesn't prove anything, as the mounts being behind a collectors edtion was not the reason they went F2P.

[SouthofHeaven]

Gurluas R.E.G님이 먼저 게시:

I also really love this game, but once my Sub ran out, I haven't been able to resub. And their customer support is hardly helping at all..So yeah, the management is bad, but the game is epic. It's just not Wow.

Yeah, epic garbage is still garbage. Definately is not WoW, since you know, WoW was successful at some point and most of us saw through this crappy effort during Beta. Glad I waited for the Beta invite instead of thinking I had to pre-order it.

[Hawkeye]

I'm no fanboy (I'm working on my own not-so-positive Review) but bots are no longer a problem and haven't been for several weeks. I can't tell you the last time I've even seen one.

[cafe con leche]

the imperial and the horse is bs. people can rationalize it out for us all they want. it was a money grab and it's something people have every right to think was exploitative

i wouldn't recommend the game. despite solid combat and a good class system, it has a substantial grind, it's buggy, and the leveling is very repetitive. also for anyone looking for anything remotely resembling an elder scrolls experience, definitely stay away. it is nothing like a sandbox game.

[Minty]

cafe con leche님이 먼저 게시:

oh please the imperial and the horse is bs. rationalize it out for us all you want, it was a money grab and it's something people have every right to think was exploitative

the game itself is alright for the combat and class system only. i wouldn't recommend it because of the repetitive grinding and uninteresting quests. if you're into pvp there's only one mode (mass fighting over objectives). no world pvp.

They are adding a King of the Hill Style Mode, if you watched todays twitch stream.

Yes, it IS a a money grab (Aren't all collectors editions really?), but for spending that extra money you get something out of it.

[Pvtchaos]

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

nerrath님이 먼저 게시:

Both Rift and SWTOR are f2p now.

That doesn't prove anything, as the mounts being behind a collectors edtion was not the reason they went F2P.

It proves that even one of the WORLDS most popular franchises in the world "Star Wars" can epically fail on a sub model. ESO has a fair smaller fanbase then Star wars and suffers from the same problems as SWTOR.

[cafe con leche]

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

cafe con leche님이 먼저 게시:

oh please the imperial and the horse is bs. rationalize it out for us all you want, it was a money grab and it's something people have every right to think was exploitative

the game itself is alright for the combat and class system only. i wouldn't recommend it because of the repetitive grinding and uninteresting quests. if you're into pvp there's only one mode (mass fighting over objectives). no world pvp.

They are adding a King of the Hill Style Mode, if you watched todays twitch stream.

Yes, it IS a a money grab (Aren't all collectors editions really?), but for spending that extra money you get something out of it.

all collector's editions are not money grabs in terms of gameplay. you might get the soundtrack or some art, or some sort of aesthetic bonus. you typically don't get an entire race not ever available for anyone else. people always balk at this sort of stuff and for good reason.

[Minty]

Pvtchaos님이 먼저 게시:

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

That doesn't prove anything, as the mounts being behind a collectors edtion was not the reason they went F2P.

It proves that even one of the WORLDS most popular franchises in the world "Star Wars" can epically fail on a sub model. ESO has a fair smaller fanbase then Star wars and suffers from the same problems as SWTOR.

I'm replying to what he was using as proof, I never played SWTOR to see it's share of problems, and yes I'll admit ESO has it's fair share, some of which are fixed, some of which still annoy me; yet I still play ESO because I get enjoyment out of it.

[Minty]

cafe con leche님이 먼저 게시:

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

They are adding a King of the Hill Style Mode, if you watched todays twitch stream.

Yes, it IS a a money grab (Aren't all collectors editions really?), but for spending that extra money you get something out of it.

all collector's editions are not money grabs in terms of gameplay. you might get the soundtrack or some art, or some sort of aesthetic bonus. you typically don't get an entire race not ever available for anyone else. people always balk at this sort of stuff and for good reason.

I'll say it again, I agree that the Imperial race being edition exlusive was a bad move, but it's not a reason I would boycott an MMO.

[Worstluck]

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

Pvtchaos님이 먼저 게시:

It proves that even one of the WORLDS most popular franchises in the world "Star Wars" can epically fail on a sub model. ESO has a fair smaller fanbase then Star wars and suffers from the same problems as SWTOR.

I'm replying to what he was using as proof, I never played SWTOR to see it's share of problems, and yes I'll admit ESO has it's fair share, some of which are fixed, some of which still annoy me; yet I still play ESO because I get enjoyment out of it.

I play SWTOR now. I have to admit that currently it is a much better MMO with much more stuff to do, however, SWTOR has been out for 2+ years. ESO is in about the same shape SWTOR was when it was released, so maybe after 2 years ESO will be worth playing. It is not currently worth playing.

[cafe con leche]

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

cafe con leche님이 먼저 게시:

all collector's editions are not money grabs in terms of gameplay. you might get the soundtrack or some art, or some sort of aesthetic bonus. you typically don't get an entire race not ever available for anyone else. people always balk at this sort of stuff and for good reason.

I'll say it again, I agree that the Imperial race being edition exlusive I don't agree with, but it's not a reason I would boycott an MMO.

except you also asserted that all collector's editions are money grabs. they all aren't. players who buy the full game actually didn't. if they wanted the full game, they should have gotten the imperial edition. that's the reality of it, but zenimax doesn't market it that way. they put people into a multiplayer environment and give perks to people who pay more. it's funnier thinking about how zenimax said they had no intentions of going f2p when they already have the right attitude for exploiting ppl.

i didn't boycott the game because of it. however after playing it, it's something i think should have deterred me from the game. that kind of content barrier shows the developer's intentions with the game and with their customers. with all of the more pressing problems with this game, unless someone is extremely bored, i dont' see why anyone would drop any money on ESO.

[Minty]

cafe con leche님이 먼저 게시:

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

I'll say it again, I agree that the Imperial race being edition exlusive I don't agree with, but it's not a reason I would boycott an MMO.

except you also asserted that all collector's editions are money grabs. they all aren't. players who buy the full game actually didn't. if they wanted the full game, they should have gotten the imperial edition. that's the reality of it, but zenimax doesn't market it that way. they put people into a multiplayer environment and give perks to people who pay more. it's funnier thinking about how zenimax said they had no intentions of going f2p when they already have the right attitude for exploiting ppl.

i didn't boycott the game because of it. however after playing it, it's something i think should have deterred me from the game. that kind of content barrier shows the developer's intentions with the game and with their customers. with all of the more pressing problems with this game, unless someone is extremely bored, i dont' see why anyone would drop any money on ESO.

Full Game = All content of a game right? Most Collectors Editions come with exclusive ingame content, which isn't in any other version, therefore again people who buy a standard edition are not getting the full game. If the game comes with Art Books/Soundtracks instead, it's still a money grab but in a way that doesn't affect other people who just want the complete game.

Pre-Order Bonuses are another thing entirely, but you may not have the full game if you don't preorder it, as you may miss out on some exclusive bonuses. (This is something I am definitely against however)

[Run Now]

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

Kifli님이 먼저 게시:

I played during cbt weekends and found the game mmm quite bad. I mean it is absolutely nothing special just another random mmorpg exatcly same as any other. the think is that when most of mmorpg now days are f2p this one you must buy and then pay moth subscription ! and it absolutely dont worth it.

srry for english ...

F2P MMOs are supported by MicroTransactions.

The support staff as well as the people who develop content/fix the game have to be paid and you have the costs of running and maintaining the servers on top of that.

Paying per month supports people and their families for their work and the everyday running costs.

Honestly if you can't afford 50 cents a day, you shouldn't be gaming.

It isn't F2P yet. They are still grabbing as much money as they can before the flip the switch.

From what I saw of their content I certainly cannot justify paying monthly for their game, let alone the moneygrab DLC. Additionally just because people can afford .50 cents a day on top of all the other costs in this game doesn't mean that its smart or worth it. Especially when the game is quite obviously designed with the full intention of becomming F2P. This points out that the company has one foot out the back door when it comes to intent on making this game worth subscription cost and or purchase cost in the future.

[cafe con leche]

//-Garu-\\님이 먼저 게시:

cafe con leche님이 먼저 게시:

except you also asserted that all collector's editions are money grabs. they all aren't. players who buy the full game actually didn't. if they wanted the full game, they should have gotten the imperial edition. that's the reality of it, but zenimax doesn't market it that way. they put people into a multiplayer environment and give perks to people who pay more. it's funnier thinking about how zenimax said they had no intentions of going f2p when they already have the right attitude for exploiting ppl.

i didn't boycott the game because of it. however after playing it, it's something i think should have deterred me from the game. that kind of content barrier shows the developer's intentions with the game and with their customers. with all of the more pressing problems with this game, unless someone is extremely bored, i dont' see why anyone would drop any money on ESO.

Full Game = All content of a game right? Most Collectors Editions come with exclusive ingame content, which isn't in any other version, therefore again people who buy a standard edition are not getting the full game. If the game comes with Art Books/Soundtracks instead, it's still a money grab but in a way that doesn't affect other people who just want the complete game.

Pre-Order Bonuses are another thing entirely, but you may not have the full game if you don't preorder it, as you may miss out on some exclusive bonuses. (This is something I am definitely against however)

rationalize it to be better or acceptable to your low standards all you want. if you just look at a zenimax's release alone, it is exploitative, and as for what other companies do, people do complain about those preorder bonuses quite a bit. eso: imperial edition is the full game in everything but name, and it's 20 dollars more than eso: minus one race.