Fake roles are killing the fun of eso

[xfce1976]

How many times playing random dungeon u like to start soon your role but you cant start fast,so you get fake role and change your main role in another one not yours.
These players are killing the fun to play a random in group! STOP PLEASE,why YOU STOP the fun to play this game.If a dungeon in group can be fun,now you must to kick them or left group why these idiots dont understand.
And players that plays eso since years must to left group or stay until the end.

[Who am I ?]

Publicado originalmente por SunfireKnight86:

I do more damage than most DPSs and still keep the party topped off in vet dungeons. Your meta is failing you if you can't do the same.

Which titles do you have mr redist user ? xD

Before you say, let me say mines :

Full Dungeon Trifectas, Full Arena trifectas, PvP titles including Emp with 48 pvp rank
DmD , TTT , IR , GH , GS , DB , PB , vSE HM , vDSR HM.

I even have some number 1 parse or heal on esolog website. There is no way a guy like you can outheal me or outparse me sorry, wake up from your dream.

[Who am I ?]

Publicado originalmente por SunfireKnight86:

Publicado originalmente por Who am I ?:

Bro just stfu, you just said " vigor on mag templar ? " and said you are using redist on dungeons. Clearly you are a pepega player.

Let me teach you the current meta -> Stam DD's also have mag skills and Mag DD's also have stam skills. And no one is using redist to heal as fake healer in dungeons. Literally as someone said 1 echo vigor or heal orb is enough to hold everyone. So stop commenting to other comments without knowledge.

Yeah its a game no one owes me anything but im also not forced to carry 50-100 cp "DD" peeps in DLC vet dungeons or etc. It's same for rnds everytime when i go with my tank or my healer i suffer in even fungal 1 cause a random dudes wants to go as DD with his side 30 lvl "DD" xD.

You still dont understand the dilema here. I'm saying im outparsing them with my tank. So that shows they are not DD. So they should not choose DD.

People going 3dd 1 tank on DLC dungeon trifectas. So arguement you are providing is bullsht. If people can do something, that shows it is possible. I don't say everyone has to do that but neither you cannot blame others for that cause you suck at game.

WTS Dps+Dodge+Block ( Basicly How to play ESO ) lessons for free.

The meta you got off google doesn't matter. I can guarantee I can play any role better than you without meta building. I stopped reading there. I'm not browsing your manifesto.

Publicado originalmente por Luckylancer:

I can put my sign under this. I say I CC the monters to my team because when I que as tank to normal dungeon, I kill monsters. Death is the best CC in the game.

You dont need to respond to a guy that thinks vigor is useless on magicka templar. He needs to learn about hybridisation before giving his opinion in these topics.

If you need your stam and magicka bars to heal in ESO you're a bad healer, full stop. Pick one.

Check esolog and see how many Endgame PvE best healers using Echo vigor/bone surge etc (If you need your stam and magicka bars to heal in ESO you're a bad healer, full stop. Pick one.)

You don't even have clue how those skills work so please stop embarassing yourself dude.

[Who am I ?]

Publicado originalmente por SunfireKnight86:

Publicado originalmente por Who am I ?:

Which titles do you have mr redist user ? xD

Before you say, let me say mines :

Full Dungeon Trifectas, Full Arena trifectas, PvP titles including Emp with 48 pvp rank
DmD , TTT , IR , GH , GS , DB , PB , vSE HM , vDSR HM.

I even have some number 1 parse or heal on esolog website. There is no way a guy like you can outheal me or outparse me sorry, wake up from your dream.

Congrats on getting carried a lot I guess. Who brags about achievements in babies first MMO? lmao

You said i'm better than you and titles show who is better. I can even share logs who got carried. Stop typing when you get rekted in comments. You have excuses for everything.

[xfce1976]

Publicado originalmente por TheS1X:

there is no role needed for dungeons, game is too easy to actually need a tank or healer.

if all dungeons are easy to play why this fake roles left group in dlc dungeons?

[xfce1976]

Publicado originalmente por Who am I ?:

Think it like this :

While you can finish a dungeon in 5 minutes instead of 15 or 20, why you wanna suffer ?
Yes,i get it all newbies want to check every fkng corner in dungeons but you can do it as solo. About saying " don't fake role if you are not tank or healer ". I saw lots of people choosing DD even without dealing 5k dps xd . People think they are DD cause they are holding desto staff/bow/dual wield etc.

So it comes to the same outcome. Why you guys are fa king as DD ? Equiping weapons which has weapon damage on it doesn't make you DD. I can literally outparse %99 of the players in ESO with my tank while tanking with buff items.

And also you can't ask extra 15 minutes from other party members to suffer with you cause you can't deal dps.

If someone role trolling, let him carry the run because he has to, if he cannot carry and also goes for a fake role then yeah you are right.

If you wanna chill in a dungeon just go solo. There are lots of builds that can do solo every content in ESO ( dungeon wise ).


These are only for random normal dungeon. I'm also against fake role in Vet dungeons. But for normals ? come on bro its easy as fck.

If you play since eso raise ok good for you if you know how to play eso...but many guilds teach players to use fake roles,they say all normal dungeons are easy to play,but not the truth. i Hate these players why if i want to play a dungeon in group to play a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ random normal and get that experience i need to stay in group.
Personally ilike to play almost any dungeons in solo and i just need group for random dungeons,so dont need to be a professor, just Respect roles.
And anyway can complete just Fungal Grotto 1 in 5 minutes in solo!

[Sith Lord Seyz]

tbh idc if people fake tank/heal as long as they are good players and deal good damage.
a fake tank should have at least a taunt and should not be dying. fake healer maybe 1 group heal somewhere slotted, if ♥♥♥♥♥ going to hit the fan in some dlc dungeons.

but the amount of people i see queuing for fake tank/healers which are doing like zero dps and are not doing their appropiate tank/healer job, too, are sadly way to high.
they just want fast queues and let the other 3 do 100% of the work.
how entitled can you be?

and im not talking about new players. saw cp 2000 fake tanks without taunt and with like 5k dpm.

[Swans]

Publicado originalmente por Sith Lord Seyz:

tbh idc if people fake tank/heal as long as they are good players and deal good damage.
a fake tank should have at least a taunt and should not be dying. fake healer maybe 1 group heal somewhere slotted, if ♥♥♥♥♥ going to hit the fan in some dlc dungeons.

but the amount of people i see queuing for fake tank/healers which are doing like zero dps and are not doing their appropiate tank/healer job, too, are sadly way to high.
they just want fast queues and let the other 3 do 100% of the work.
how entitled can you be?

and im not talking about new players. saw cp 2000 fake tanks without taunt and with like 5k dpm.

Yup, that's the main issue, no taunt means mobs run wild and cannot be collected up for rapid AoE burn-down. And then the 'tank' is doing bad DPS so wonder why they even bother, I'm usually still doing 60-70% of the DPS with a faker in there, and I'm not a great DPS player myself!

I have a 'fake' tank for these runs, it's a hybrid DPS/tank, but has both taunts and the main tank buffs, but I can still contribute meaningfully to the damage and can handle all content except HM vet DLC, so use it for 5 key runs.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Not enough tanks and healers often (so some people fake it to get it done), not enough players interested in doing actual content (except housing alone or questing some overland things..) so queues can be endless. :(

Many people have noticed this and are complaining about it in official forums also.

Sad times. Felt like actual dying game to me when me and friend tried to get a dungeon queue to pop. We gave up after 1 hour. Later did just uninstall.

ESO really needs console crossplay so for a while few more people to play with. Now it's almost like single player game most often.

[Sith Lord Seyz]

Publicado originalmente por Lelu💜:

Not enough tanks and healers often (so some people fake it to get it done), not enough players interested in doing actual content (except housing alone or questing some overland things..) so queues can be endless. :(

Many people have noticed this and are complaining about it in official forums also.

Sad times. Felt like actual dying game to me when me and friend tried to get a dungeon queue to pop. We gave up after 1 hour. Later did just uninstall.

ESO really needs console crossplay so for a while few more people to play with. Now it's almost like single player game most often.

player numbers are still up there.
(here you can see the steam population over the years. didnt change much over the last 5 years, if you delete the covid spike. https://steamcharts.com/app/306130#All ) ofc not including other clients, but samplesize is big enough to identify trends, not total player numbers tho)

the thing is that probably the content that gets played mostly shifts over the years.
queueing for dungeons is still decent even as dps, if you do it in the prime times. like 10mins are the maximum for me as dps.
queing for specific ones, takes significantly longer tho.
and if they are not the daily pledge dungeons you can basically forget it as dps. :D
(the buggy queue, if you queue with groups with 2 or 3 players, doenst make it better.
either go solo or with 4 man.)

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Publicado originalmente por Sith Lord Seyz:

Publicado originalmente por Lelu💜:

Not enough tanks and healers often (so some people fake it to get it done), not enough players interested in doing actual content (except housing alone or questing some overland things..) so queues can be endless. :(

Many people have noticed this and are complaining about it in official forums also.

Sad times. Felt like actual dying game to me when me and friend tried to get a dungeon queue to pop. We gave up after 1 hour. Later did just uninstall.

ESO really needs console crossplay so for a while few more people to play with. Now it's almost like single player game most often.

player numbers are still up there.
(here you can see the steam population over the years. didnt change much over the last 5 years. https://steamcharts.com/app/306130#All ) ofc not including other clients, but samplesize is big enough to identify trends, not toal palyer numbers tho)

the thing is that probably the content that gets played mostly shifts over the years.
queueing for dungeons is still decent even as dps, if you do it in the prime times. like 10mins are the maximum for me as dps.
queing for specific ones, takes significantly longer tho.
and if they are not the daily pledge dungeons you can basically forget it as dps. :D
(the buggy queue, if you queue with groups with 2 or 3 players, doenst make it better.
either go solo or with 4 man.)

The queues used to be better (faster, a lot) still during Summerset times etc, and many Alchemy materials were reasonable priced, now many has increased a LOT. Worrisome signs for me of both people not interested in group content that much and also fewer people gather and selling mats (and also farming at IC for those alchemy satchels), so it slowly leads to unhealthy situations like now. Old players are lucky if they have hundreds of millions of gold, but new players.. doing same crafting and all now as in past years is not same at all. in Endgam veteran trials and pvp drinks tri-potions in cooldown when in combat.. some people maybe don't understand the situation if they mostly do overland playing where not even need buffs most time. Same with performance issues. :/

[nonameyet]

Publicado originalmente por Who am I ?:

Think it like this :

I saw lots of people choosing DD even without dealing 5k dps xd . People think they are DD cause they are holding desto staff/bow/dual wield etc.

This happens because for early dungeons new players queue in as dps by default. However when doing a random dungeon, for the harder dungeons, if you don't have a real tank and healer group wipes. So I think a low dps is not as bad as a fake tank/healer. And dps can be easily replaced.

[Halcyform]

Publicado originalmente por Lelu💜:

Not enough tanks and healers often (so some people fake it to get it done), not enough players interested in doing actual content (except housing alone or questing some overland things..) so queues can be endless. :(

Many people have noticed this and are complaining about it in official forums also.

Sad times. Felt like actual dying game to me when me and friend tried to get a dungeon queue to pop. We gave up after 1 hour. Later did just uninstall.

ESO really needs console crossplay so for a while few more people to play with. Now it's almost like single player game most often.

More people prefer treating the game as a single player game. The original devs intended ESO to be a casual MMO where you have the choice to do most content solo. The game was meant to be more of a themepark MMO where you can experience the story without the usual headaches associated with traditional MMOs.

It's been like this forever - until recently where devs are catering to people who want the game to change into something it wasn't meant to be. ESO became popular because of Elder Scrolls universe as well as not being a traditional MMO that punishes you for solo play.

As for group content, you'll that many players stay away from PUGs/group finder and stick to guild or friend circle groups. The only time I bother with group finder is to do the daily.

The only thing that can kill ESO is if brain dead DEI devs push the casuals away.

[𝒞𝒶𝓉𝓎𝒶♡]

Publicado originalmente por SunfireKnight86:

Even said they don't play the game weeks ago.

I did Uninstall the game yes. So what? If i played ESO for 5 years, then uninstalled, tried again after Necrom, then uninstalled, then tried again last month, then uninstalled.. then there is a problem clearly that has not been fixed? Yes, the game works as "Skyrim Lite", but both PVP and PVE Veteran trials scene has had issues for a long time (performance, bugs, balance, economy, population) and everyone knows it. Some people just do not want to hear it so they become hostile. Why not even try to improve your own game?

I understand those that are worried that ZOS might then somehow do mistake to ruin their favorite game content also, so they are like "better not do anything to anything, so nothing worse can happen at least, right?" so that leads to ESO being only torn apart by the combat team.. they do often weird and bad decisions every 3 months in every Beta. People dislike it. You think i am the only one here thinking so? Hah, check my topic and check what others say. People are not happy for every part of the game.

And even in the case the game is not installed, i can comment and discuss it as much as i want, even hundred times per day if so want and have meaningful posts to say. And oh boy i always do. Especially if some people are trying to just start to bully me here for saying my opinion.

But eventually you will learn normal polite manners. And if not? Not my problem, but yours.

I am not going anywhere. So you just gotta have to deal with it. ^^

[xfce1976]

Publicado originalmente por ah_puch:

Fake roles are killing the fun indeed. Especially dps roles who cannot do any damage. Those are the kind of players who came straight from Guild Wars 2 with "open world" auto attack spam game style.

Maybe any players dont know how to play veteran dungeons but to play a normal dungeon?need to be a good dd?

[Luckylancer]

Publicado originalmente por Luckylancer:

I can put my sign under this. I say I CC the monters to my team because when I que as tank to normal dungeon, I kill monsters. Death is the best CC in the game.

You dont need to respond to a guy that thinks vigor is useless on magicka templar. He needs to learn about hybridisation before giving his opinion in these topics.

If you need your stam and magicka bars to heal in ESO you're a bad healer, full stop. Pick one. [/quote]

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