The PvE content is way too easy and trivial

[Tackier]

I played this game back in 2017 on Xbox for a bit and had some fun with it, but eventually got bored, I picked it back up when it went free on Epic to see what it's like, and it's just way too easy. You can unironically go AFK and when you come back your healthbar would barely be breaking half, it's almost impossible to die fighting PvE.

I'm really amazed at the amount of content the game offers, it does actually look fun to build your class and collect gear, but what's even the point if there's no challenge? I've looked at quite a bit of reviews on Steam and on YouTube and a lot of the negative opinions is that it's just way too trivial and the combat is extremely weightless. I was gonna buy the game + DLC here since there's so much to do but since it's just kind of a mind-numbing game I think I'll pass for now, maybe in the future.

If the devs do anything more with this game, please allow players to pick a difficulty in some fashion, let enemies do more damage to them or lower their health pools, adding a hardcore gamemode on top of that would be really fun too. Give enemies a higher aggro range or something, lease allow players to be challenged if they want that. I don't want all the players who play this as a 'sit back and relax' game to be alienated but I think that the game should also cater to people who want a challenge when they play a game.

[Yevonai]

I agree. I'm 1 week new to the game and I find the combat unchallenging. I can literally spam 1 damage skill and everything dies. Or I could just swing a weapon and the same happens.

The other problem I'm having is the story, or narrative, is just all over the place.

I just escaped the tutorial area and there is no reference or mention of what just happened, I'm suddenly supposed to care about other people's problems and issues without any regard to where I came from or who I am. The biggest turn off was as a Breton just entering the world, suddenly I'm supposed to care about some guy's pig and find it for him........HUH?!?! I don't care about your pig or where it is, I just escaped another realm dude, why do I care?

I realised how everything just spits story names and locations at you without any context and I'm supposed to care. All the small local stories are hardly connected if at all, I'm only interested in the main events but even then, those main stories take a back seat to local people's petty problems all the time.

[they/them pussy :3]

yea, i came back to this game after playing it on xbox a little over 2 years ago and im currently at cp 70 something and really the hardest thing i have to do is remember the timings of my AoE's. gonna try veteran dungeons when i level up more though

[Berserkr]

Most mmos now are really easy pve landscape content, most games were made easier to attract and retain more casual players, even swtor everything is faceroll, lotro added in difficulty settings at an npc because the game is so easy, it is what it is

[Yevonai]

Well I'm a casual player and I'm having a hard time staying engaged and interested. Trying to read all the books and notes and let all dialogue play out but there's so much that I feel both overwhelmed and disinterested. There is not much choice either, according to build guides you just stack 1 attribute and focus on skills using that. That is anything but freedom of choice.

[Swans]

Originally posted by Yevonai:

Well I'm a casual player and I'm having a hard time staying engaged and interested. Trying to read all the books and notes and let all dialogue play out but there's so much that I feel both overwhelmed and disinterested. There is not much choice either, according to build guides you just stack 1 attribute and focus on skills using that. That is anything but freedom of choice.

Well, you can pick almost any build for 90% of the content, mainly because the game is easy. But if you look at build guides they'll tend to coalesce around what works best for the role, and you always get a kind of convergent evolution in builds for this reason, and that's not unique to ESO; there simply is always a mathematical best.

That said, the criticisms in this thread are valid. Combat is the game's weak point, I have to agree, and the face-roll ease of much of it is a ZOS choice, no doubt to bring in that juicy casual $, so I don't see things improving.

[Hark]

I started playing this game about two weeks ago, and I have to agree about how easy the combat is, for the most part. The only exception might be some of the bosses in dungeons...except you're pretty likely to get into a party with 2-3 other people at champion level 2k who throw a stern look at said boss before it sheepishly falls over into a pile of loot. On the occasions where this didn't happen, there are some interesting mechanics going on, and I'm interested in seeing if veteran dungeons up the bar but...Yeah, the regular mobs might as well be throwing toothpicks at you, even when there's like a dozen trying to bash your head in.

[FTWO]

Casually play some of the Veteran DLC Dungeons, or do some of the Veteran Arena's, or perhaps some Veteran Trial Dungeons, maybe even take on the Endless Archive and see how far you can get... then casually judge if the game doesn't have it's challenges.

Combat is chill and smooth, and very active... none of that boring and irritating "Tab Targetting".

I'm glad overland content is easy. If it was severely difficult to farm gear that you are looking for or need in order to take on even harder content, making you frustrated as hell if you couldn't do it... would piss many ppl the hell off and probably just quit entirely. I also like it because you can enjoy the actual story at least once, your first time through... the devs created a very good and in depth game for everyone to enjoy, I say at least give it the experience.

I enjoy that there is a great deal of content in the game. I'm impressed that every single year new content is added... you don't see that in any other MMO. If you're lucky you might get a DLC every few years on other games. I like that there is so much to do you can never say there isn't anything to do. Just because YOU'RE bored doesn't mean there isn't anything in the game to do.

[MISO4EVER]

Originally posted by FTWO:

Casually play some of the Veteran DLC Dungeons, or do some of the Veteran Arena's, or perhaps some Veteran Trial Dungeons, maybe even take on the Endless Archive and see how far you can get... then casually judge if the game doesn't have it's challenges.

Combat is chill and smooth, and very active... none of that boring and irritating "Tab Targetting".

I'm glad overland content is easy. If it was severely difficult to farm gear that you are looking for or need in order to take on even harder content, making you frustrated as hell if you couldn't do it... would piss many ppl the hell off and probably just quit entirely. I also like it because you can enjoy the actual story at least once, your first time through... the devs created a very good and in depth game for everyone to enjoy, I say at least give it the experience.

I enjoy that there is a great deal of content in the game. I'm impressed that every single year new content is added... you don't see that in any other MMO. If you're lucky you might get a DLC every few years on other games. I like that there is so much to do you can never say there isn't anything to do. Just because YOU'RE bored doesn't mean there isn't anything in the game to do.

amen. the overland content is like a classic elder scrolls game. the enemies are canon fodder for the lore. this isnt dark souls or elden ring and its not supposed to be. if everything was like a dark souls enemy no one would have time to soak in the lore / world which is so detailed they would be spending it trying to not die. thats why elden ring / dark souls have a obscure story because they know most dont have the time for it they we just trying to get through the game.

have any of these people whining done vet maelstrom / dlc dungeons / vet trials /hardmodes etc? prob not.

there is always games like elden ring they can go play with a pointless "story" and difficult overland. it rather amazing store and series with a deep lore since the early 90s than flail in your face monsters every 2 seconds and a story i couldnt gave a crap about. plus eso has so much optional content thats just as hard as those other games if not harder in some cases.

[SiFi]

Really trying hard to get into this game. But, as people mentioned it goes one of two ways; you faceroll mobs so fast you wonder why you even bother, and spending 20-30 min running around for a quest and the only thing to come out of it is 10 mobs worth of xp and a sore finger from holding down sprint.

[Nidhogg]

I think you are all forgetting that it is Elder scrolls franchise. If your here for the combat then your playing the wrong game. If you cant be bothered to clear entire maps and engage some of the most memorable content/stories/lore/locations/collectables you should defiantly stick to playing roblox. If you like to read a book from time to time and engage in mass dialog and engaging RP then this is the game for you. The build types are endless, levelling is pretty much infinite with many branches to pursue. join a bunch of guilds, engage in people, buy a house in game and decorate, go wild. There is no pressure to play each day either, unlike most MMOs you not losing out if you miss a day or a week. Its a chill game for 40+ dudes like myself who like to spend time in a world away from work and relax and have a giggle with friends.

[Yevonai]

Originally posted by Isadoraisacat:

Originally posted by FTWO:

Casually play some of the Veteran DLC Dungeons, or do some of the Veteran Arena's, or perhaps some Veteran Trial Dungeons, maybe even take on the Endless Archive and see how far you can get... then casually judge if the game doesn't have it's challenges.

Combat is chill and smooth, and very active... none of that boring and irritating "Tab Targetting".

I'm glad overland content is easy. If it was severely difficult to farm gear that you are looking for or need in order to take on even harder content, making you frustrated as hell if you couldn't do it... would piss many ppl the hell off and probably just quit entirely. I also like it because you can enjoy the actual story at least once, your first time through... the devs created a very good and in depth game for everyone to enjoy, I say at least give it the experience.

I enjoy that there is a great deal of content in the game. I'm impressed that every single year new content is added... you don't see that in any other MMO. If you're lucky you might get a DLC every few years on other games. I like that there is so much to do you can never say there isn't anything to do. Just because YOU'RE bored doesn't mean there isn't anything in the game to do.

amen. the overland content is like a classic elder scrolls game. the enemies are canon fodder for the lore. this isnt dark souls or elden ring and its not supposed to be. if everything was like a dark souls enemy no one would have time to soak in the lore / world which is so detailed they would be spending it trying to not die. thats why elden ring / dark souls have a obscure story because they know most dont have the time for it they we just trying to get through the game.

have any of these people whining done vet maelstrom / dlc dungeons / vet trials /hardmodes etc? prob not.

there is always games like elden ring they can go play with a pointless "story" and difficult overland. it rather amazing store and series with a deep lore since the early 90s than flail in your face monsters every 2 seconds and a story i couldnt gave a crap about. plus eso has so much optional content thats just as hard as those other games if not harder in some cases.

Yes, I, a player of only 1 week in this game, am whining about what I am noticing because I am not letting bias and the many hours put into the game cloud my judgment.
So you are both one of those 'end game is all that matters' sort of players. That is fine and okay but don't think that is everyone's purpose for playing a game that has many hours to experience before that. Why would I care about end-game content when the base game experience of leveling is uninteresting, not engaging and a slog.

It is okay to be bias towards a game you have put many hours into but discounting anyone else's opinion because it doesn't match what you want is unfair and offensive.

If only someone warned me that 'end game is all that matters' for this game then I wouldn't have bothered with it at all in the first place.

[SiFi]

Originally posted by Nidhogg:

I think you are all forgetting that it is Elder scrolls franchise. If your here for the combat then your playing the wrong game. If you cant be bothered to clear entire maps and engage some of the most memorable content/stories/lore/locations/collectables you should defiantly stick to playing roblox. If you like to read a book from time to time and engage in mass dialog and engaging RP then this is the game for you. The build types are endless, levelling is pretty much infinite with many branches to pursue. join a bunch of guilds, engage in people, buy a house in game and decorate, go wild. There is no pressure to play each day either, unlike most MMOs you not losing out if you miss a day or a week. Its a chill game for 40+ dudes like myself who like to spend time in a world away from work and relax and have a giggle with friends.

Just want to point out that if your not here for the combat, then you should be reading a book, you will get much better stories. If you are here for the RP...then good luck finding the 5 people who do that. And this game has daily log in rewards and monthly login rewards that penalize you by not giving you the best stuff if you miss a day.

[Nidhogg]

Originally posted by SiFi:

Originally posted by Nidhogg:

I think you are all forgetting that it is Elder scrolls franchise. If your here for the combat then your playing the wrong game. If you cant be bothered to clear entire maps and engage some of the most memorable content/stories/lore/locations/collectables you should defiantly stick to playing roblox. If you like to read a book from time to time and engage in mass dialog and engaging RP then this is the game for you. The build types are endless, levelling is pretty much infinite with many branches to pursue. join a bunch of guilds, engage in people, buy a house in game and decorate, go wild. There is no pressure to play each day either, unlike most MMOs you not losing out if you miss a day or a week. Its a chill game for 40+ dudes like myself who like to spend time in a world away from work and relax and have a giggle with friends.

Just want to point out that if your not here for the combat, then you should be reading a book, you will get much better stories. If you are here for the RP...then good luck finding the 5 people who do that. And this game has daily log in rewards and monthly login rewards that penalize you by not giving you the best stuff if you miss a day.

Bruh you only really get health potions or food items and can be crafted or bought cheap within the game. You sound like someone who has never played Elder scrolls games.

[SiFi]

Originally posted by Nidhogg:

Originally posted by SiFi:

Just want to point out that if your not here for the combat, then you should be reading a book, you will get much better stories. If you are here for the RP...then good luck finding the 5 people who do that. And this game has daily log in rewards and monthly login rewards that penalize you by not giving you the best stuff if you miss a day.

Bruh you only really get health potions or food items and can be crafted or bought cheap within the game. You sound like someone who has never played Elder scrolls games.

Have you looked at the rewards? Bet you havent. The things you get are of high value. YOU may not think bonus xp is valuable, but that stuff is damn near mandatory unless you want to spend 6+ hours a day grinding for years. So dont trying to take the high road. Your bais is on full ugly display my dude.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by Tackier52:

I've looked at quite a bit of reviews on Steam and on YouTube...

No, you didn't.

If you had, you would know that ESO offers plenty of more difficult content. You skimmed the low hanging fruit reviews/videos, that covered early game content, and made your decision based on that.

If you are done complaining (probably not), go play something else. Bye.