ESO has turned into a daily "glitch-fest"

[Stoneface Zoynax]

Bugs, glitches and a-holes = ESO

[Majestic-Casual™]

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They could easily do it with an optional sub with added bonuses like other modern MMO's do, including ESO. Blizzard has made literally billions of dollars from subs from WoW over the years. They don't need to have a required sub business model anymore. Just like ESO doesn't have it anymore either. Only reason they haven't gone F2P yet is because of their CEO Bobby Kotick, who is leaving in January

Thanks for the info
Should be interesting to see what happens to the in game economy with so much extra in game gold laying around from so many people not having to buy tokens off the AH to pay for subscriptions each month. I know SWTOR's in game inflation is ridiculous right now from way too many credits in the game, but take just my sister as one example, she 7 boxes in wow, she works up more than enough in game gold every month to buy 7 tokens from the AH to pay for 7 more subs, now she will only pay for 1-2 subs or none at all, so with just her alone every month there's over 1 million more gold floating around in the game with nothing to spend it on and there would be a lot of boxers that would drop at least a few subs I'm guessing, how do you think the economy will be after the f2p?
Keep in mind I recently played wow for 60 days in the last 5 months and that 2 months was probably the first time I played wow in about 3 years, so going f2p would bring me back for sure as at least a casual.

I honestly can't say anything about the economy in WoW, because I haven't played in 11 years. Quit right after Mists of Pandaria came out in 2012. Back then WoW tokens didn't exist yet and the economy was pretty strong without it. The game has changed quite a bit since I quit though.

[Rager]

This is truth. I feel you on that. Just logged off and called it. This game is such a buggy mess right now, the quality is so bad.

Like that is the only thing really this game has going for it. Combat is subpar at best, the Auction house system is so bad, and all that. Yet you can't get the quality right?

[Lowbei]

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This is truth. I feel you on that. Just logged off and called it. This game is such a buggy mess right now, the quality is so bad.

Like that is the only thing really this game has going for it. Combat is subpar at best, the Auction house system is so bad, and all that. Yet you can't get the quality right?

I dont know why people are lying about bugs.

Lets see if you can put any detail to this “buggy mess” argument.

What exactly is bugged?

I play this game daily, at pve endgame, and there are zero major bugs. Zero.

I predict zero details are provided, just like last time.

[Rager]

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This is truth. I feel you on that. Just logged off and called it. This game is such a buggy mess right now, the quality is so bad.

Like that is the only thing really this game has going for it. Combat is subpar at best, the Auction house system is so bad, and all that. Yet you can't get the quality right?

I dont know why people are lying about bugs.

Lets see if you can put any detail to this “buggy mess” argument.

What exactly is bugged?

Did you just say I am lying? What? Are you out of your mind?

I've had to relog three times to get this item I was suppose to get, I've had quest NPCS not talk to me, and when I accept a quest. It acted like I did not.

I was helping my wife with Serpent bog, and it just resets mid fight.

Wildhorn daily was not giving credit no matter how many times I did, and after 4th time it at last gave credit.


I can go on and on. To come in here and think your perspective is the right one and call other people liars, you got to be out of your mind.

[Lowbei]

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I dont know why people are lying about bugs.

Lets see if you can put any detail to this “buggy mess” argument.

What exactly is bugged?

Did you just say I am lying? What? Are you out of your mind?

I've had to relog three times to get this item I was suppose to get, I've had quest NPCS not talk to me, and when I accept a quest. It acted like I did not.

I was helping my wife with Serpent bog, and it just resets mid fight.

Wildhorn daily was not giving credit no matter how many times I did, and after 4th time it at last gave credit.


I can go on and on. To come in here and think your perspective is the right one and call other people liars, you got to be out of your mind.

I simply have a lot of experience with the game, and what youre saying is simply incorrect. Ive been playing for nearly 10 years and done every quest in the game.

Quest bugs in this game are extremely rare, and resolved by taking 30 seconds to relog. Thats not even worth mentioning, much less claiming that someone had to log off for the day because of too many bugs, and it didnt happen 3 times in a day.

You and your friend are resetting serpents bog by pulling the boss too far away from its spawn. Im sure you dont mean to be doing this and simply dont understand the tether range of bosses, but its not a bug.

Wildhorn daily is working fine as well so im guessing you werent doing the requirements correctly. Thousands of people do these dailies every day with no problem.

You say you can go on and on. Please do, because youve listed no bugs so far and im wondering if all of the issues can be resolved by me explaining the mechs. No worries, happy to help :)

[Rager]

See, the thing is. That is fine for you, I am just smart enough to say that your perspective and what you went through is not the same as mine. And will not call you a liar for not having the same issues for me.

However, the fact you act like you know better than me, shows that the one here lying is you. Because no one in their right mind would defend something that does not need to be defended.


Second off, I know how this game plays. My wife is Stam NB and I am stam sorc. We was right on the boss. There was no range issue.

Things like that, I answer your question. I gave you examples. Clearly you will just say it did not happen to you so it is lying.


I don't got time to teach you anymore. Like learn some basic respect, just because you have not seen it does not mean other people lying. Do I make myself clear?

[Lowbei]

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See, the thing is. That is fine for you, I am just smart enough to say that your perspective and what you went through is not the same as mine. And will not call you a liar for not having the same issues for me.

However, the fact you act like you know better than me, shows that the one here lying is you. Because no one in their right mind would defend something that does not need to be defended.

Second off, I know how this game plays. My wife is Stam NB and I am stam sorc. We was right on the boss. There was no range issue.

Things like that, I answer your question. I gave you examples. Clearly you will just say it did not happen to you so it is lying.

No offense but i clearly do and was willing to help you with what is clearly a misunderstanding of the mechanics of something thousands of others do every day, but its understandable if people want to get defensive because they thought they knew everything.

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I don't got time to teach you anymore.

Irony. Good luck lol

[Majestic-Casual™]

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See, the thing is. That is fine for you, I am just smart enough to say that your perspective and what you went through is not the same as mine. And will not call you a liar for not having the same issues for me.

However, the fact you act like you know better than me, shows that the one here lying is you. Because no one in their right mind would defend something that does not need to be defended.


Second off, I know how this game plays. My wife is Stam NB and I am stam sorc. We was right on the boss. There was no range issue.

Things like that, I answer your question. I gave you examples. Clearly you will just say it did not happen to you so it is lying.


I don't got time to teach you anymore.

Just an FYI, he is a known troll on the Steam forums here. Best to just hit ignore and move on. Don't waste your time with him.

[Rager]

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See, the thing is. That is fine for you, I am just smart enough to say that your perspective and what you went through is not the same as mine. And will not call you a liar for not having the same issues for me.

However, the fact you act like you know better than me, shows that the one here lying is you. Because no one in their right mind would defend something that does not need to be defended.


Second off, I know how this game plays. My wife is Stam NB and I am stam sorc. We was right on the boss. There was no range issue.

Things like that, I answer your question. I gave you examples. Clearly you will just say it did not happen to you so it is lying.


I don't got time to teach you anymore.

Just an FYI, he is a known troll on the Steam forums here. Best to just hit ignore and move on. Don't waste your time with him.

Thanks, good to know. I should have guessed with how crazy his logic was.

[Lowbei]

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See, the thing is. That is fine for you, I am just smart enough to say that your perspective and what you went through is not the same as mine. And will not call you a liar for not having the same issues for me.

However, the fact you act like you know better than me, shows that the one here lying is you. Because no one in their right mind would defend something that does not need to be defended.


Second off, I know how this game plays. My wife is Stam NB and I am stam sorc. We was right on the boss. There was no range issue.

Things like that, I answer your question. I gave you examples. Clearly you will just say it did not happen to you so it is lying.


I don't got time to teach you anymore.

Just an FYI, he is a known troll on the Steam forums here. Best to just hit ignore and move on. Don't waste your time with him.

calling people a “troll” for knowing more about the game and shutting down lies about bugged content is common around here.

there are no gamebreaking bugs, as evidenced by the lack of their ability to articulate any so far in this thread.

the reality is tha humans often like to blame “anything else” for any failures they experience, and its a lot easier to blame the game than themselves when something goes wrong. thus, when pressed to detail it, they have nothing and then lash out at the veteran player explaining the content that vets do every day easily.

again, dont worry, its common.

[Jenkkemi]

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Just an FYI, he is a known troll on the Steam forums here. Best to just hit ignore and move on. Don't waste your time with him.

calling people a “troll” for knowing more about the game and shutting down lies about bugged content is common around here.

there are no gamebreaking bugs, as evidenced by the lack of their ability to articulate any so far in this thread.

the reality is that people often like to blame “something else” for any failures they experience, and its a lot easier to blame the game than themselves when something goes wrong. thus, when pressed to detail it, they have nothing and then lash out at the person explaining the content.

again, dont worry, its common.

Acchhtually! I Still can't complete Surreptitiously Shadowed achievement in murkmire and there are a lot of other players reporting the same problem for ages now. As a player who is all about achieving, it is game breaking and countless bug reports seem not to help. Checkmate.

[Lowbei]

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calling people a “troll” for knowing more about the game and shutting down lies about bugged content is common around here.

there are no gamebreaking bugs, as evidenced by the lack of their ability to articulate any so far in this thread.

the reality is that people often like to blame “something else” for any failures they experience, and its a lot easier to blame the game than themselves when something goes wrong. thus, when pressed to detail it, they have nothing and then lash out at the person explaining the content.

again, dont worry, its common.

Acchhtually! I Still can't complete Surreptitiously Shadowed achievement in murkmire and there are a lot of other players reporting the same problem for ages now. As a player who is all about achieving, it is game breaking and countless bug reports seem not to help. checkmate.

Would it be weird if I linked my achievement being clear then, or would that be "trolling?" Thousands of players do the daily every day with no problems, and due to it being an mmo, i have no doubt that "a lot of players" dont understand the mechanics, similar to this thread.

Furthermore, a bugged achievement isnt even remotely close to "game breaking" nor anything similar to a "glitch-fest."

Again, dont worry, its common. Watch some youtube videos if needed to help learn the mechanics. Best of luck!

[Jenkkemi]

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Acchhtually! I Still can't complete Surreptitiously Shadowed achievement in murkmire and there are a lot of other players reporting the same problem for ages now. As a player who is all about achieving, it is game breaking and countless bug reports seem not to help. checkmate.

Would it be weird then if I linked my achievement being clear then? Thousands of players do the daily every day with no problems, and due to it being an mmo, i have no doubt that "a lot of players" dont understand the mechanics, similar to this thread.

Furthermore, a bugged achievement isnt even remotely close to "game breaking" nor anything similar to a "glitch-fest."

Again, dont worry, its common. Watch some youtube videos if needed to help learn the mechanics. Best of luck!

What do you consider gamebreaking bug then? Enlighten us.

[Lowbei]

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Would it be weird then if I linked my achievement being clear then? Thousands of players do the daily every day with no problems, and due to it being an mmo, i have no doubt that "a lot of players" dont understand the mechanics, similar to this thread.

Furthermore, a bugged achievement isnt even remotely close to "game breaking" nor anything similar to a "glitch-fest."

Again, dont worry, its common. Watch some youtube videos if needed to help learn the mechanics. Best of luck!

What do you consider gamebreaking bug then? Enlighten us.

By definition (Ill be honest I never thought I would need to explain this to anyone) a game-breaking bug would be a bug that stopped you from playing the game.

I will google for you.
"A game-breaking bug is one that causes the game to break, crash, or become unplayable for a period of time. Usually urgent debugging is required."

Even if the quest were bugged, which its not, thats not remotely close to a game-breaking bug. This game has literally over 1400+ quests in it, and one being bugged isnt game-breaking by any definition, especially some side tiny quest in a swamp with no real rewards.

[Jenkkemi]

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What do you consider gamebreaking bug then? Enlighten us.

By definition (Ill be honest I never thought I would need to explain this to anyone) a game-breaking bug would be a bug that stopped you from playing the game.

I will google for you.
"A game-breaking bug is one that causes the game to break, crash, or become unplayable for a period of time. Usually urgent debugging is required."

Even if the quest were bugged, which its not, thats not remotely close to a game-breaking bug. This game has literally over 1400+ quests in it, and one being bugged isnt game-breaking by any definition, especially some side tiny quest in a swamp with no real rewards.

That achievement in question used to be so bad that talking to the npc used to cause CTD. Atleast they fixed the crashing part. However it still remains uncompletable for many. Like you said: "a game-breaking bug would be a bug that stopped you from playing the game.". In the eyes of an achievement hunter, where achievements are the crucial part of their experience, it might be just that.