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Wolfe Apr 16, 2020 @ 5:01am
Relatively new player feeling lost and overwhelmed
This may be a fairly long post but I'm hoping the context of my situation will help me find a better way forward. I've been playing for a little over a month, currently I'm 269CP with a DK Tank (best that I can do without going into trials but I haven't touched my tank in a while due to anxiety I have tanking veteran dungeons) and a Magicka Necro (Law of Julianos+Mother's Sorrow+Nerien'eth, used for DPS and solo play). Because of my anxiety tanking I've been relegated to only playing my Necro but I feel kinda stuck with it... I can't do vMA for those items (I can live but struggle to kill things so I get overwhelmed) and I haven't been enjoying MagCro DPS, only been able to manage around 22k parses when trying my best.

I've been feeling really unsure on what to do. I've mainly been leveling trade skills and pushing myself to do storyline quests for skill points on a character I'm not enjoying. I don't feel like I can do Veteran dungeons on my Necromancer due to complaints about DPS and then dungeon ques are long as it is. I'm starting to question if my gear just isn't enough, my build, CP or if I'm just that bad at weaving despite practicing every day on a training dummy. Maybe I should level a new character or just grind CP/force myself to do storyline quests to eventually do trials and vMA for the gear, maybe even go do PvP since I remember having fun doing battlegrounds on my DK. What are some suggestions for what I can/should do, my ultimate end goal is to eventually go into trials/veteran trials and any feedback will be appreciated!
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Swap Commends Apr 16, 2020 @ 7:32am 
Try another character until you find a class/build that suits you.

And if everything feels wrong, you are probably the issue.
Wolfe Apr 16, 2020 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by Chelo:
Try another character until you find a class/build that suits you.

And if everything feels wrong, you are probably the issue.

Well yeah, obviously I'm the issue, but I'm looking for advice and suggestions to push past that
Dex Apr 16, 2020 @ 7:36am 
I mean, you're asking on the steam forums for advice but you're already looking into parsing and vet trials. You're in the wrong place. Ask your guild mates or on the subreddit.
Wolfe Apr 16, 2020 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by Dex:
I mean, you're asking on the steam forums for advice but you're already looking into parsing and vet trials. You're in the wrong place. Ask your guild mates or on the subreddit.
Don't have a guild, subreddit doesn't allow new player posts like that. As for the ESO forums I didn't get sent the invitation code so I'm waiting on support to send one
Applekid Apr 16, 2020 @ 9:24am 
Get into several guilds.
Blueyce Apr 16, 2020 @ 12:52pm 
I can fully understand your anxiety. Vet Dg and Trials are hard. I feel the same way. At lvl cp269 don't even worry about the Vet content. I've seen many recommendations that vet level should not be targeted untill at least cp 600 ,unless you are very very good. Clearly we are not.

This is my first mmorpg type of game so it was very hard for me to go in and start trusting strangers to play with. I found that there were very good people and some not so good. Some have strong patience and others will bite your head off simply because they are jerks.

It is this recommendation of finding yourself a guild(s) that is the most promising.

Look for a laid back community that will help you and encourage you.
It is much more fun to play with people that you come to know than just playing with a pick up group. One thing you are going to do is make mistakes, and so will they. After a time you will be able laugh with each other AND at each other. I think they call it friends. lol

Its so much harder to to be overwhelmed when you have guild mates standing beside you, many who have stood in your role and faced the same question, "Am I good enough?" As you gain levels you will also gain confidence.

DPS uckk. I see so many players talking about DPS, and I have looked and read articles on DPS and still can not understand how the HELL you get 40K of dps and have found no clear description of how they got that level. It seems to be a combination of the CORRECT skills fired off in the CORRECT order at the CORRECT amount of speed with the CORRECT buffs applied at the CORRECT time and used against the CORRECT dummy. Freaking makes my head hurt LOL.

Last thought, Its not about Beating the game, its about Enjoying the game. Relax. Have Fun. Make some friends. Enjoy yourself.

Good luck fellow player
Halcyform Apr 16, 2020 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Blueyce:
I can fully understand your anxiety. Vet Dg and Trials are hard. I feel the same way. At lvl cp269 don't even worry about the Vet content. I've seen many recommendations that vet level should not be targeted untill at least cp 600 ,unless you are very very good. Clearly we are not.

This is my first mmorpg type of game so it was very hard for me to go in and start trusting strangers to play with. I found that there were very good people and some not so good. Some have strong patience and others will bite your head off simply because they are jerks.

It is this recommendation of finding yourself a guild(s) that is the most promising.

Look for a laid back community that will help you and encourage you.
It is much more fun to play with people that you come to know than just playing with a pick up group. One thing you are going to do is make mistakes, and so will they. After a time you will be able laugh with each other AND at each other. I think they call it friends. lol

Its so much harder to to be overwhelmed when you have guild mates standing beside you, many who have stood in your role and faced the same question, "Am I good enough?" As you gain levels you will also gain confidence.

DPS uckk. I see so many players talking about DPS, and I have looked and read articles on DPS and still can not understand how the HELL you get 40K of dps and have found no clear description of how they got that level. It seems to be a combination of the CORRECT skills fired off in the CORRECT order at the CORRECT amount of speed with the CORRECT buffs applied at the CORRECT time and used against the CORRECT dummy. Freaking makes my head hurt LOL.

Last thought, Its not about Beating the game, its about Enjoying the game. Relax. Have Fun. Make some friends. Enjoy yourself.

Good luck fellow player

This pretty much.

If all you do is group with random players, you're going to need thick skin if you are still learning.

You can avoid all that if you play with friends/guildmates. They know where you are at and will put up with any slips/trips/falls until you get the experienced needed.

In terms of DPS, sadly, unless you use specific builds, dps isn't all that great across the board unless you play specific classes that are really strong at that particular time. With that said, it's not like you have to pump out crazy numbers to defeat most veteran content. You only have a few specific circumstances where boss fights/encounters are a dps/gear check before you get killed. Most of the time, even if you dps is low, you can still power through if you manage your resources and just stay alive.

Edit: If you really want to pi$$ off those people who rag on you about your ability, then focus on staying alive. There have been circumstances where I was the only one alive during a veteran boss encounter and decided to solo it. People start freaking out and are like: dude, just die and let us rez and start over. I figured, if I had to put up with their BS during the dungeon run, I'll return the favor.

I've had groups rage quit after they looted the boss. ROFL.
Last edited by Halcyform; Apr 16, 2020 @ 1:05pm
Wolfe Apr 17, 2020 @ 6:47am 
As a side note, after tanking quite a fair few dungeons I don't think I can keep doing it. I feel so bad, every mob that doesn't get taunted fast enough, not pulling enough packs together, not generating ult fast enough it just feels like I shouldn't be in a pivotal role like tank
maxkidd Apr 17, 2020 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Loa_Wolfe:
As a side note, after tanking quite a fair few dungeons I don't think I can keep doing it. I feel so bad, every mob that doesn't get taunted fast enough, not pulling enough packs together, not generating ult fast enough it just feels like I shouldn't be in a pivotal role like tank
whats the build you have? wep/skills/ultimates

tank should have frost staff/shield - shield has a easier to spam taunt- currently have a decent necro tank - bone armor pulls in enemies, use staff to taunt bigger mobs, graveyard for aoe , ult regen from consuming corpses.

Dps - rotation is important knowing how to stack damage and debuffs- I don't run any specific build just what makes sense to me- poison damage over time nightblade / burst sorcerer
Wolfe Apr 17, 2020 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Maxkidd:
Originally posted by Loa_Wolfe:
As a side note, after tanking quite a fair few dungeons I don't think I can keep doing it. I feel so bad, every mob that doesn't get taunted fast enough, not pulling enough packs together, not generating ult fast enough it just feels like I shouldn't be in a pivotal role like tank
whats the build you have? wep/skills/ultimates

tank should have frost staff/shield - shield has a easier to spam taunt- currently have a decent necro tank - bone armor pulls in enemies, use staff to taunt bigger mobs, graveyard for aoe , ult regen from consuming corpses.

Dps - rotation is important knowing how to stack damage and debuffs- I don't run any specific build just what makes sense to me- poison damage over time nightblade / burst sorcerer
Standard beginner tank build for DK. Plague Doctor, Ebon and Bloodspawn (can't get lord warden since not CP300 yet). The main reason I feel super discouraged was the few dungeons I did today didn't turn out well. First group found out I'm still learning and abandoned ship, second group called me awful after the first few trash packs so I left.
maxkidd Apr 17, 2020 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Loa_Wolfe:
Originally posted by Maxkidd:
whats the build you have? wep/skills/ultimates

tank should have frost staff/shield - shield has a easier to spam taunt- currently have a decent necro tank - bone armor pulls in enemies, use staff to taunt bigger mobs, graveyard for aoe , ult regen from consuming corpses.

Dps - rotation is important knowing how to stack damage and debuffs- I don't run any specific build just what makes sense to me- poison damage over time nightblade / burst sorcerer
Standard beginner tank build for DK. Plague Doctor, Ebon and Bloodspawn (can't get lord warden since not CP300 yet). The main reason I feel super discouraged was the few dungeons I did today didn't turn out well. First group found out I'm still learning and abandoned ship, second group called me awful after the first few trash packs so I left.
good sets, maybe your rotation/speed of taunt - what weps or skills you use for taunting?

i will add before going any further vet dungeon are usually where the toxic pve players are, if you are .09 seconds off optimal runs then let the toxic chat spew. Stick with regular dungeons or find a casual group as others have said. and by no means am i an amazing/ knowledgeable player I just know my skills/gear work for me.
Wolfe Apr 17, 2020 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by Maxkidd:
Originally posted by Loa_Wolfe:
Standard beginner tank build for DK. Plague Doctor, Ebon and Bloodspawn (can't get lord warden since not CP300 yet). The main reason I feel super discouraged was the few dungeons I did today didn't turn out well. First group found out I'm still learning and abandoned ship, second group called me awful after the first few trash packs so I left.
good sets, maybe your rotation/speed of taunt - what weps or skills you use for taunting?

i will add before going any further vet dungeon are usually where the toxic pve players are, if you are .09 seconds off optimal runs then let the toxic chat spew. Stick with regular dungeons or find a casual group as others have said. and by no means am i an amazing/ knowledgeable player I just know my skills/gear work for me.
I have some issues grouping up trash packs, especially when the DPS of the group is low then yeah I have to taunt everything. My normal start to a trash pack is frost staff/run in (depending how packed everything is), taunt the big enemies, chain the archers/mages and then use both talons and blockade. Maybe use equilibrium during the rotation so I can keep my Magicka up. Vets have been fine for the most part since they're fairly easy, trash packs are the only issue
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