It seems PvP in ESO is only for elite players with top gear.

[Snivonim]

The problem with PvP in this game is that one when reaches 50 and has enough skill points to allocate, and even yellow gear, it is no different than being level 1 with no gear in the battlegrounds. Unless you are playing a top build, with top gear, you have literally no chance of winning a fight against the majority of players now. IMO, that is an imbalance.
IMO, gear should provide some small advantages to enhance play style, not utterly define success.

[Zayrownd]

Do you know how gear works? let me guess, you were going to pvp with full divines instead of impenetrable trait, don't you?

[vior wolfkin]

The ONLY way to get top gear is by joining a group and running dungeons ! //// This does mean that if you insist on playing SOLO you will have the top 10% of the game shut off to you ! ... This means that in PVP you will get toasted by 7 yr old kids ! ... Battlegrounds may as well be off limits too ! ... This is EXACTLY what ZOS want ! so not much point moaning ! IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT THEN CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION ! ,,, ps i only play solo ! and the subscription is not worth the money for solo play anyway . Truth is PVP is what i bought the game for , but whilst it can be great , far too often it is ruined by cheats and even worse the bossy little twerps that insist you do exactly what they say ! ...

[Sith Lord Seyz]

total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
no need to get any organized group for good pvp gear.
a lot of stuff can just be bought from guild traders or earned in pvp itself.
even some monstersets can be get via pvp.

only a few gearsets useful for pvp require pve group content and its pretty easy. no hard trial stuff. everything can be done solo or matchmaked.
(which is essentially solo play. otherwise pvp wouldn't be solo, too)

pvp is only a problem, if u run into it with some pve max dps gear without any defenses.

Originalmente postado por vior wolfkin:

The ONLY way to get top gear is by joining a group and running dungeons ! //// This does mean that if you insist on playing SOLO you will have the top 10% of the game shut off to you ! ... This means that in PVP you will get toasted by 7 yr old kids ! ... Battlegrounds may as well be off limits too ! ... This is EXACTLY what ZOS want ! so not much point moaning ! IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT THEN CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION ! ,,, ps i only play solo ! and the subscription is not worth the money for solo play anyway . Truth is PVP is what i bought the game for , but whilst it can be great , far too often it is ruined by cheats and even worse the bossy little twerps that insist you do exactly what they say ! ...

[blc]

The best sets are from cyrodiil and pvp boxes. What sets are you missing OP? The trail sets are kinda bad because you lose an entire set bonus that is just just for pve. And if you need any dungeon set you can just solo it on normal.

[Vevvev]

Originalmente postado por Zayrownd:

Do you know how gear works? let me guess, you were going to pvp with full divines instead of impenetrable trait, don't you?

I PvP in full Divines and Infused, but granted I learned how to dodge, play vampire stage 4 (Not a typo as I actually do go max stage), and keep my buffs up with 27k HP.



Although it seems OP is talking Battlegrounds... I'm sorry OP but in Battlegrounds your champion points are turned off. Any and all benefits you get from them is disabled meaning you'll be completely relying upon your passives, active skills, and gear you bring with you. You need the right traits, muscle memory, and build in order to even survive in above level 50 Battlegrounds because it's a very brutal place.

Oh, and Battlegrounds isn't very well balanced for 4v4v4 in my opinion so I'd recommend Cyrodiil instead to get your feet wet in PvP. Cyrodiil does require some getting used to though, but I recommend trying to pick one of the most populated campaigns and sticking to the front line to get fights.

Gear still matters in Cyrodiil, but if you go no-CP Cyrodiil PvP then any proc sets you have equipped will cease to work. A proc set is a set that has the conditional of "If X happens, do Y".


Also the only gear you need gold quality is weapons as the spell/weapon damage given by having weapons equipped boosts both damage and healing you do. The armor you wear only needs to be purple quality to be good, and boosting it to gold quality isn't necessary.

[Mus Canus]

What's "top gear", pieces above waist?

[Berserkr]

Originalmente postado por Mus Canus:

What's "top gear", pieces above waist?

Nah it's a Tv show and also a racing video game series published Kemco lol

[MadDawg2552]

Originalmente postado por vior wolfkin:

This does mean that if you insist on playing SOLO you will have the top 10% of the game shut off to you !

10% of the top game is still less than 1% of all the content in the game. Not a big loss to me.

Unless you actually meant that 10% of the entire game will be shut off, which is just absolutely wrong.

Truth is PVP is what i bought the game for , but whilst it can be great , far too often it is ruined by cheats and even worse the bossy little twerps that insist you do exactly what they say ! ...

Welcome to every PvP game ever.

[Halcyform]

All MMO PvP is trash.

If you are lucky enough to find a new MMO that has good PvP, congrats - you discovered a something akin to a will-o-wisp in real life. However, just like the will-o-wisp, it is ephemeral.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Valendrion]

PVP in this game died in the summer of 2016. It's never recovered.

[JJJAAA]

This game turned out to be a console version of World of Warcraft and not Skyrim.

[Zayrownd]

Originalmente postado por JJJAAA:

This game turned out to be a console version of World of Warcraft and not Skyrim.

Another dude who thinks this is "Skyrim Online"... great!

[Too Many Side Quest]

Its not just gear. You should understand how CP, class and weapon skill works in PvP. You also need to read the situation like don't chase if you don't have much sustain, don't solo an obviously well organized ballgroup if cant nuke them, etc. Plus understand the current meta requires you to be tanky,so, if you are not stealthy nightblade then use tank build. Try posting your build here maybe I people can teach some tricks.

[vior wolfkin]

Originalmente postado por MadDawg2552:

Originalmente postado por vior wolfkin:

This does mean that if you insist on playing SOLO you will have the top 10% of the game shut off to you !

10% of the top game is still less than 1% of all the content in the game. Not a big loss to me.

Unless you actually meant that 10% of the entire game will be shut off, which is just absolutely wrong.

Truth is PVP is what i bought the game for , but whilst it can be great , far too often it is ruined by cheats and even worse the bossy little twerps that insist you do exactly what they say ! ...

Welcome to every PvP game ever.

NOT every PvP ever ! This game is in fact one of the worst for toxic players ! //

[[Kartell]Captain Data]

One still can have fun in Cyrodiil once you realize some things:

1st: you can do most quests / delves / skyshards without getting ambushed. Even deep in hostile territory. This should help you to find some gear.

2nd: someone said: get CP810 first and try to have hitpoints above 25.000. Otherwise you'll be considered an easy kill.

3rd: PvP fun depends on what you enjoy most. If you only enjoy PvP by being the biggest baddest and most succesful dude on the field, you won't enjoy PvP at all.
If you enjoy PvP as a healer or someone supporting your alliance with siege equipment and generally doing team gameplay, you'll easily fit in even without a perfect PvP gear.

4th: your worst enemy isn't the zerging group ahead. It's acutally a sneaking nightblade doing massive damage if he/she gets behind you.
Your best friend in the other hand is a good group. Even if you're not part of the unit, you still can support them and still earn experience.

5th: PvE gear doesn't really work in PvP and vice versa. In PvP it's all about blunting enemy damage, criticals and armor penetration. You won't do any damage if you're dead. Some of the builds you'll encounter are called "troll builds": not only do they have a huge health bar, they also have a massive passive health regeneration and thick armor. Like trolls. ;-)