If anyone is wondering if crown crates are worth it-

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

I couldn't resist a few months back and spent well over 150$ on crates
I posted my openings on youtube just now: https://youtu.be/uPYRI2ivqKk
And no it was not worth it.. Even tho I got an Apex mount

[mysteryman115]

Originally posted by Emerald:

I couldn't resist a few months back and spent well over 150$ on crates
I posted my openings on youtube just now: https://youtu.be/uPYRI2ivqKk
And no it was not worth it.. Even tho I got an Apex mount

Without loot crate gambling, ESO would have a MUCH shorter lifespan. To think other fanboys on this forum attack other games for sub requirements, but proceed to spend 25-200$+ on friggin crates while probably paying for ESO subscription cause muh crafting bag, dlc access n crowns.

Got 1 apex tier mount (or a decent one) from a free crate recently. Outside of that, knew crates were as foolish as electronic art's lootbox scam system. At least you OP got something while some never see anything in gambling.

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

Originally posted by Blues Man:

That game caters to gamblers. For gamblers it doesn't matter.
It's "worth" it regardless. Win or not.
People without the addiction don't play. They already know its a scam.

Didnt think of it that way

[MadDawg2552]

You can see the potential rewards from the crates before you open them. If there's nothing in there that you want, then it's not worth it.

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

Originally posted by MadDawg2552:

You can see the potential rewards from the crates before you open them. If there's nothing in there that you want, then it's not worth it.

I mean you're right, but also even if there is something I do like there. If I do spend alot and get it, I end up changing my customization later on anyways. So in the end, its a lot of gambling for cosmetics you'll end up changing

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

Originally posted by Unknownman115:

Originally posted by Emerald:

I couldn't resist a few months back and spent well over 150$ on crates
I posted my openings on youtube just now: https://youtu.be/uPYRI2ivqKk
And no it was not worth it.. Even tho I got an Apex mount

Without loot crate gambling, ESO would have a MUCH shorter lifespan. To think other fanboys on this forum attack other games for sub requirements, but proceed to spend 25-200$+ on friggin crates while probably paying for ESO subscription cause muh crafting bag, dlc access n crowns.

Got 1 apex tier mount (or a decent one) from a free crate recently. Outside of that, knew crates were as foolish as electronic art's lootbox scam system. At least you OP got something while some never see anything in gambling.

Im not sure I understand your point. So are you for or against lootboxes? Some argue that they should integrate the rewards from Crown Crates into the game so there is a lot more rewards in the progression of the game

[MugHug]

Never used any crown crates (unless free) since ESO came out as they are just a gimmick to make people send more money. Paying a monthly subscription and buying all the expansions is enough for me and my bank account.

They are a form of gambling and not a healthy impression to leave on impressionable young people, let alone the adults who cannot control them self.

Handing money over on the odd chance you might get something you really want or need sounds like a fool's errand.

Addiction comes in many forms and starts in many innocent ways. It starts in many innocent ways like this. If these did not present such a risk, then why are so many governments getting involved to stop or control them.

Ask yourself before you troll, have you see first hand what starts as an innocent little thing like this grow into a full blown destructive addiction that wreaks their life and the lives around them. I have seen such happen to both friends and family. I have seen it with alcohol, drugs and loot boxes.

And when you personally have to live through the experience then you are qualified to comment on it.

Remember, until you see the pain and even suffer your own pain to see friends and loved one go through hell, you have no real idea of the dangers. So think before shouting my post down.

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

Originally posted by MugHug:

Never use any crown crates (unless free) as they are just a gimmick to make people send more money. Paying a monthly subscription and buying all the expansions is enough for me and my bank account.

Very much so agreed

[mysteryman115]

Originally posted by Emerald:

Originally posted by Unknownman115:

Without loot crate gambling, ESO would have a MUCH shorter lifespan. To think other fanboys on this forum attack other games for sub requirements, but proceed to spend 25-200$+ on friggin crates while probably paying for ESO subscription cause muh crafting bag, dlc access n crowns.

Got 1 apex tier mount (or a decent one) from a free crate recently. Outside of that, knew crates were as foolish as electronic art's lootbox scam system. At least you OP got something while some never see anything in gambling.

Im not sure I understand your point. So are you for or against lootboxes? Some argue that they should integrate the rewards from Crown Crates into the game so there is a lot more rewards in the progression of the game

Frankly, I should have made my point clearly. Answer is *no* I think ZOS should develop other means of revenue. Hell, there are laws in certain countries that outlawed lootcrate/box gambling due to people not knowing when to stop. No way in hell im paying for ZOS crates when if you are serious about apex mounts, I know there's a favor system that rewards you for doing dailies and weeklies with some currency that enables you to get apex stuff without spending a dime, albiet lengthy af.

ZOS could offer 1-15 free crowns per advertisement watched or video or something. At least with say TF2 and CSGO, you can sell whatever crates or crate items (tradable) for something in return on steam (actual money). So without crates in the crown shop, either the devs would actively been MADE to listen to the community, or this game could have shuttered its doors by now.

[Berserkr]

Originally posted by Emerald:

Originally posted by MugHug:

Never use any crown crates (unless free) as they are just a gimmick to make people send more money. Paying a monthly subscription and buying all the expansions is enough for me and my bank account.

Very much so agreed

Yeah I got the two free ones last month with the daily log in gift, opened them and was like yeah that's it I'm done lol
Now there is a point to be said that stuff like these in games are hurting people with gambling addictions and I can totally see that, where you and I can walk way I'm sure there are many that can't

[BlueDragonSage]

https://tools.libove.org/generators/table/gloomspore-crown-crates-simulator/

Here is a crown crate simulator

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

Originally posted by BlueDragonSage:

https://tools.libove.org/generators/table/gloomspore-crown-crates-simulator/

Here is a crown crate simulator

Lmao this might itch my addiction when i need it

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

Originally posted by Blues Man:

Originally posted by Emerald:

Very much so agreed

Free crates is all I ever opened too.
And I gotta say I wanted to open more. But I didn't
So, I had donuts instead.

I see a pretty girl I can't have.... donuts instead.
Lots of donuts.

So one addiction leads to another lmao

[MadDawg2552]

Originally posted by Emerald:

So one addiction leads to another lmao

That's pretty much how it works. To get rid of your addiction, you have to replace it with something else. Most of the time it gets replaced by another addiction.

[Ashkorne]

Originally posted by Blues Man:

That game caters to gamblers. For gamblers it doesn't matter.
It's "worth" it regardless. Win or not.
People without the addiction don't play. They already know its a scam.

This is absolutely right.

If anyone out there thinks that loot crates, microtransactions and other "gacha" mechanics are a stupid waste of time, then congratulations. YOU were never the intended target.

They're not aimed at you. You're not the mark.

Never forget that videogame publishers are now employing psychologists on staff specifically for this reason.

[BUURY THEE LIIGGHT DEEEP WITHIIN]

Originally posted by Ashkorne:

Originally posted by Blues Man:

That game caters to gamblers. For gamblers it doesn't matter.
It's "worth" it regardless. Win or not.
People without the addiction don't play. They already know its a scam.

This is absolutely right.

If anyone out there thinks that loot crates, microtransactions and other "gacha" mechanics are a stupid waste of time, then congratulations. YOU were never the intended target.

They're not aimed at you. You're not the mark.

Never forget that videogame publishers are now employing psychologists on staff specifically for this reason.

Think I heard, even engaging in games that involve these systems is bad. Because you are being used to justify the gambling for those who feel that itch. "It's worth it because this game is popular"