Market / Economy / Crafting

[Kodokuro]

I like the games where i can be a trader and a crafter. EVE online has a fantastic market and crafting systems where you can dive and get lost very easily.

How is the market in this game?
Can i play and enjoy a good part of the game just doing some ocasional PvE and crafting things to sell them?

any comment is welcome.

[Rheth Vathah]

The game is pure pve with pvp zones those zones are in cyrodill the rest of the game is free pvp although you can accept a duel. The craft issue in the game is not something that affects much since recipes and some crafting things are usually sold but that is everything, everything you get in dungeons (it would be the pvp search engine or the dungeons + key) cannot be sold. not even the transmuted items since they are linked to your character. Maybe I didn't explain it well. You should download some addons like the tamriel TamrielTradeCentre and the minions program. you should know that eve online is a game whose market and crafting is used even in universities related to the stock market and the market. eve online is the only one that maintains that, the rest of the games that exist don't have that, it's simpler so don't expect a wow in this game.

[Kodokuro]

Originally posted by Rheth Vathah:

The game is pure pve with pvp zones those zones are in cyrodill the rest of the game is free pvp although you can accept a duel. The craft issue in the game is not something that affects much since recipes and some crafting things are usually sold but that is everything, everything you get in dungeons (it would be the pvp search engine or the dungeons + key) cannot be sold. not even the transmuted items since they are linked to your character. Maybe I didn't explain it well. You should download some addons like the tamriel TamrielTradeCentre and the minions program. you should know that eve online is a game whose market and crafting is used even in universities related to the stock market and the market. eve online is the only one that maintains that, the rest of the games that exist don't have that, it's simpler so don't expect a wow in this game.

So is filled with bing items. That is sad to hear. I have play those type of MMO.
i liked skyrim so may give it chance, and may even buy it in steam later in a sale.

[Inixiel]

The game is good to play, but has no economy to speak of. Being a crafter is pretty much everyone since you need it to work clockwork city for gear optimization.

[EricHVela]

Everyone can craft in ESO without really impacting combat abilities, and the stats are comparable or better than what can be looted. There's no market for that when everyone can do it themselves if they want. (There's even a bigger market for crafting housing items and trading non-craftable housing items than weapons, armor, food, drinks, potions, and poisons.)

What ESO players want is the ability to change appearances. Recipes and books that let crafters change item appearance (and their own appearance if they have no intents for crafting) must be looted and the most desired stuff comes from dungeons. Even the crafted items with the applied appearances sell for much, much less.

Crafting has no lure. Farming for style books and cosmetic item recipes is where it's at.

That's on top of the fact that there's no auction house like other games. Guilds of a certain size or larger can get one of a limited number of guild vendor stores around the game world and sell that way. If you're not in a guild that is big enough or not in one managed to get one of the guild vendors spots, you can only trade directly with individuals.

You can be in a certain number of guilds at the same time. (That is likely how some guilds managed to get multiple guild vendors with extremely similar names with nearly identical stock spread around the game world—one guild operating as several.)

[Kodokuro]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Everyone can craft in ESO without really impacting combat abilities, and the stats are comparable or better than what can be looted. There's no market for that when everyone can do it themselves if they want. (There's even a bigger market for crafting housing items and trading non-craftable housing items than weapons, armor, food, drinks, potions, and poisons.)

What ESO players want is the ability to change appearances. Recipes and books that let crafters change item appearance (and their own appearance if they have no intents for crafting) must be looted and the most desired stuff comes from dungeons. Even the crafted items with the applied appearances sell for much, much less.

Crafting has no lure. Farming for style books and cosmetic item recipes is where it's at.

That's on top of the fact that there's no auction house like other games. Guilds of a certain size or larger can get one of a limited number of guild vendor stores around the game world and sell that way. If you're not in a guild that is big enough or not in one managed to get one of the guild vendors spots, you can only trade directly with individuals.

You can be in a certain number of guilds at the same time. (That is likely how some guilds managed to get multiple guild vendors with extremely similar names with nearly identical stock spread around the game world—one guild operating as several.)

I wish EVE were like this a little bit more. That personal trade had a purpose to use and not just filled with scams. I really liked to find buyers and sellers of goods and talk with them so i could create trade chains with player via contracts and personal trades.

This leads me to 2 more questions.

in pvp you lose your all your gear or is just respawn with some dubility loss or something like that?

can i just be rich? lol. is that a thing here?

[Ashkorne]

You're fully able to play the markets here and can make fat bank doing so.

Watch a youtuber called Arttea. She's a trading guildmaster and always posts videos on how to make them fat stacks.

Sample video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-pBn6ugNWg

[Kissing Fish]

Originally posted by Kodokuro:

I like the games where i can be a trader and a crafter. EVE online has a fantastic market and crafting systems where you can dive and get lost very easily.

How is the market in this game?
Can i play and enjoy a good part of the game just doing some ocasional PvE and crafting things to sell them?

any comment is welcome.

Obviously i cant speak for everyone, but you absolutely can buy/sell/trade in ESO.
For the past 3 years ive been in a 3rd tier guild with a trader, ive earn easily more than 100million( i have 92million left now).
this is just me trading/playing extremely casual everyday, without impacting my time with family/work/the regular holidays etc
Point is- anything is possible, you just need to focus on it.

[EricHVela]

Originally posted by Kodokuro:

in pvp you lose your all your gear or is just respawn with some dubility loss or something like that?

Items are not lootable from other players. The only PvP looting is a PvP currency called Tel-Var Stones when it's carried on the player character in the Imperial City PvP zone, but it's not as direct as that.

A portion of the Tel-Var Stones are lost on death in the Imperial City PvP zone regardless if it was from a player or an NPC. (I think it's 50% of what's being carried.) Players will get a distribution of the stones if they were involved, but if a player is carrying no Tel-Var Stones, nobody gets anything.

The reason to carry Stones rather than banking all of them is because having more on the character means an increase in amount of Stones that drop as rewards in the Imperial City.

This only applies in the Imperial City where Stones can be won. Outside the Imperial City, even in the Cyrodiil PvP-zone, Tev-Var stones are not lost on character death.

The other PvP currency from the Cyrodiil zone is Alliance Points. They are not lost on death. They are won in the Cyrodiil zone only.

Players can gain both PvP currencies through other means. One is ESO+ which gives daily rewards for stuff that may give out some PvP currency during a month. (There is a changing schedule of what is given when during a month. A missed day pushes everything further, removing the last day in the schedule from being obtainable for each day missed.)

Dueling players doesn't affect Tel-Var Stones.

[Janmarqu Chato]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

[...] Players can gain both PvP currencies through other means. One is ESO+ which gives daily rewards for stuff that may give out some PvP currency during a month. (There is a changing schedule of what is given when during a month. A missed day pushes everything further, removing the last day in the schedule from being obtainable for each day missed.) [...]

ESO Plus isn't needed to get the daily log-in rewards.

[Kodokuro]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Originally posted by Kodokuro:

in pvp you lose your all your gear or is just respawn with some dubility loss or something like that?

Items are not lootable from other players. The only PvP looting is a PvP currency called Tel-Var Stones when it's carried on the player character in the Imperial City PvP zone, but it's not as direct as that.

A portion of the Tel-Var Stones are lost on death in the Imperial City PvP zone regardless if it was from a player or an NPC. (I think it's 50% of what's being carried.) Players will get a distribution of the stones if they were involved, but if a player is carrying no Tel-Var Stones, nobody gets anything.

The reason to carry Stones rather than banking all of them is because having more on the character means an increase in amount of Stones that drop as rewards in the Imperial City.

This only applies in the Imperial City where Stones can be won. Outside the Imperial City, even in the Cyrodiil PvP-zone, Tev-Var stones are not lost on character death.

The other PvP currency from the Cyrodiil zone is Alliance Points. They are not lost on death. They are won in the Cyrodiil zone only.

Players can gain both PvP currencies through other means. One is ESO+ which gives daily rewards for stuff that may give out some PvP currency during a month. (There is a changing schedule of what is given when during a month. A missed day pushes everything further, removing the last day in the schedule from being obtainable for each day missed.)

Dueling players doesn't affect Tel-Var Stones.

I like this sort of mechanics