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Find a trading guild with reasonable enough conditions to stay in and join it.
How do I know if it's a 'trading guild with guild trader'? I've been dumped by one. I pay 10K a month for another -- no one allows me to put up the dungeon armor and no one even let's me email it to the trader to do whatever?
THis is why people generally no longer care about inside trading on that content, most of us got tired to link things we could share and people ignoring or they put something up and if you aks for it either ignored or they ask money... so what´s the point?
Just go the place a few times on normal, destroy everything you get and press F for social gaming.
You know what? You make sense!
I´m gonna have to assume you´re new to the game so I´ll just explain: There´s only a limited number of Guild Traders in game, and since they are physical means some are in better spots than others.
Even the worst spot in the entire game may cost you around 2kk per week, why? because if you don´t pay 2kk a week someone else would and there you have it, that guild no longer has a trader.
Guild fees are a neccesity in this game, if someone applies to a guild that is in Vivec and you gotta make 100k sales per week, each player has to make the decision if they can achieve that or not.
But guild trades that do not ask for a fee have either no trader or just started and are about to find out why others ask for a fee or minimun sales.
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+100 Effort for the explanation!
Doubt it would make any difference though, as a lot of people nowadays have a severe lack of social iQs to navigate life in general.
I'm not intending to demean/insult OP, just an honest observation.
You realise my profile is public and everyone can see I have more than 7k hours on this game right?
This pretty much. There are no "fees" if members are actively selling. The "fee" that the guild is asking for is easily surpassed (via listing and guild cut) if your activity matches what the guild is looking for. The activity level of the guild should be obvious based on their stall location.
If RL gets in the way, or you prefer to put your time more towards other parts of the game, then either downgrade to a less active trading guild or pay the activity fee that you would normally surpass via regular trading.
ESO is a very active MMO which means sales targets are usually pretty easy to meet. Also, it's not like you have to sell all original products. Part of the game is buying low priced items and relisting them.
TLDR: If you don't want to deal with the activity fee that some guilds ask for, then don't punch above your weight class. Join a less active trading guild.
This is mostly because almost everyone who is trading uses TTC site, so there is no tangible advantage to pick a trader that is at some popular location, people just look it up online where the cheapest item is located and tp there, even if its at some weird long-forgotten arrse end of Tamriel.
Secondly, the total amount you sell is capped by the amount of sellable items you can accrue, not the amount of time it takes for you to sell them. Again, because of the TTC.
Our findings was that it only increased the total amount of profit by %6-11, if its one of the top 2 slots, compared to the lowest-end bunch that you can get practically for free. Its like, you pay 100x more, just to get a 1/10 increase. Of course, this findings is with price guides plotted to beat the market specifically, so it may vary for a guild where everyone just sells things on their own without any counsel.
Our collective conclusion was that, guilds are only paying for slots either because they dont care to know, or that there isnt anything to do with the guild money anyways, so why the F not.
it's ironic that someone who can't write properly would be saying people don't have "social iQs". i would say a much more troubling phenomena would be the people who are rude and snarky these days. i would also say that being rude and snarky are a somewhat relevant predictor of IQ and mental health. there is also no merit to your implication that being scammed by a guild is related to social IQ. it is however a predictor of the social IQ of the guild leader.
@OP a friendly trade guild would be ideal and i think you'll care more about who the members are than how effective they are at selling things long-term. a fee for joining would always be a deal-breaker for me. it would raise a flag that tells me this guild isn't interested in helping players and is likely lead by someone prioritizing profits over members.
You ignoring an important matter, shortening the time it takes to sell allows high profile sellers to sell even more, making more money from guild charge, ergo best trade spots are also more expensive, regardless of that 6-11% proft (it´s far more, but whatever, not gonna get into the idea that you think you outsmarted guild trade masters that have being playing this game since beta and somehow you figure out something they all ignore and are overpaying "because they don´t care").
About TTC, that´s not true, some people use TTC page, some the addon, some use MM, some use nothing. If the general price of say Chromiun is 300k and almost everywhere is at 300k, sure you could put at 250k in a lost trader in the middle of Orsinium and someone may go there, but most people will still go and pay 300k on Craglorn while they wait for the trial to fill up. At some point, if you have enough money, you just want to buy fast and a 50k difference is not gonna incite me into traveling to another area and see if I´m lucky and is still available. Furniture? Sure, a good buyer uses TTC and buys cheaper, rest of stuff with a set price? you buy it where is convenient, and that is big HUB areas.
Not gonna say what guilds I belong, but one is in an old DLC area, another is one of the top three trading spots. I pay/manage to sell a 100k on one and in the other is 5k, takes more time to get the 5k on the one in DLC area than the 100k on the other. And I don´t even play that much lately, a have a friend making 1 million per week on that very same guild. He does not do that on the other one (yes, we are at the same guilds, we have being together in 8 guild trades, recomending among us ones or others, getting out when they lose traders,etc).
And again, if you don´t want to pay 8kk for a guild trade in a popular place and prefer to pay 1kk in non populated area that´s great. But you still gonna have to pay, because again: limited traders and everyone wants to sell in this game since you´re constantly being thrown stuff to fill inventory. You don´t pay? someone else takes that spot. You wanna make sure you manage to pay? you force a fee or minimun sale on the guild and each week those who didn´t meet it get kicked.
Simple and clear, being working like that since I started playing on 2017 and it was before me, and unless the system changes it will continue to be like that until the servers dies. If you really sell the same amount on bad areas than in good ones let me tell you: you were not made to be a trader in this game.