Taking a Serious Break (PVP broken)

[A-Dawg]

I have almost 4,000 hours into this game and have to say PVP is in shambles. I love ESO, the combat flow, the resource based systems, the build diversity, the scenery its all great.

What's not great are the broken, not broken UTTERLY BROKEN "META" build that can literally face tank groups and ass-clap entire teams 1 by 1 by 1. All of my friends hate playing with me, despite my futile efforts and countless hours and gold spent swapping builds and load-outs to suit our group's play style.

To top it off, break-free almost never works, despite having full stamina bar. Pull/leap abilities constantly bug out and simply...DON'T WORK. Bar swapping never really works in PVP combat (works great in PVE) and several other combat-crucial mechanics just flat break and don't feel right. The game didn't used to be this way, but it is now.

We just did a battleground and a broken Dragon Knight went 47-0. Now I don't claim to be the BEST player, but my GOD balance this freaking game. Its so bad. Lets not forget the 15-20+minute Battleground que only to get utterly DESTROYED by a broken build. God help you if an entire 4 man team is running 4 broken builds. The holy "trinity" of tank/dps/heals is wrapped up in one comfortable package and every patch it just rotates to a new build. Force players to PICK a play style and not have everything, its ridiculous. PVP is not fun anymore (it used to be) and i find myself more frustrated than enjoying the game. The best pvp seems to be in NON-CP NON-PROC Cyrodiil/Imperial city, but even then the ZERG always wins.

I just cancelled my reoccurring sub, ill be taking my money ELSWEYR (haha I made a funny). Anyway, I just need a long break from ESO. The PVP is in bad shape right now. I don't enjoy PVE and find myself literally falling asleep in dungeons. it bores me!

These are all my OPINIONS but its honest and how I feel. Make fun, agree, hate i don't care. Bottom line my MONEY is going buh bye!

HAVE FUN!

[AmaiAmai]

Origineel geplaatst door T4GVN:

I've hardly ever seen so much misinformation in one place. Nice word salad.

Play a real competitive game, then come back and call what is in ESO "PvP".

When single pieces of gear give a massive advantage that cannot be found elsewhere without wearing them, then the game isn't balanced.

If the game is not balanced, then how can it be skillful?

PvP had the fork stuck in it last year with that crappy vamp change and even more focus on mythics. Icing when they ignore bugs with things like living dark that heal over the amount they are supposed to.

What's happening in pvp spaces isn't really PvP. Sorry, that's the hard reality of the situation.

[Black Eye games]

one way to fix PVP add to modes PVP 50 no cp and pvp cp

[ImprovKnight]

What people don't understand is before MS merger, the higher ups probably made the spokes people say things are being addressed and the programmers were told to find another way to fix the issues and they band aided them. All these attempts has finally paid off because they now know nothing they do will fix the issue and now their hand has been forced because the top guy has stated they are re-coding this game.

ZOS_MattFirorZOS_MattFiror
admin
It’s long past time to give everyone an update on where we are with PvP improvements. As many of you know, we did a series of tests over the last year to give us more data. These tests were successful and gave us the information we needed. We now have a plan going forward - but heads up: it is going to take some time.

In short – just like we did for the client a year or so back when we introduced multithreaded rendering to increase client frame rates – we are going to rearchitect our server. The version of ESO in 2022 is many magnitudes larger and more complex than the ESO that launched in 2014. So, in order to give everyone a good play experience in high-intensity situations like PvP and Trials, we need to essentially rewrite some of the foundational server code to account for it. This should dramatically increase server performance, but obviously we will need to test and evaluate as we go along.

We’ve been planning this for the last quarter and we’re starting work on it right now. But, as you can imagine, changing the fundamentals of a huge live game such as ESO is a delicate and multi-stepped process, so expect this to take up much of 2022. Much of the early work is going to happen behind the scenes and we are definitely not going to rush it. A re-architecture of this magnitude will require the entire game to be re-tested and evaluated, as this particular code is the foundation on which the game is built. It will take tons of QA and testing time as well, and I’m sure that when the time comes, we’ll do as large a test as we can on the PTS.

In the meantime, we’ll consider additional ways to keep Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds interesting and exciting (for example, potentially special rulesets or weekend events) and will continue to work on bug fixes affecting combat, but we won’t be adding any new features to PvP until the work mentioned above is complete. Doing so would not only prolong the fixes we want to implement but would also exacerbate the issue of poor performance.

We completely understand the frustration many of you are feeling, especially with lack of information about our PvP plans. This was a huge decision to make and we needed to make sure we had exhausted all other possibilities before announcing this. Thanks for bearing with us, and we will give you periodic updates about the re-architecture progress over the course of the year.
Edited by ZOS_GinaBruno on January 12, 2022 6:29PM

[A-Dawg]

I love how several replies indicate that I am wrong or I need to get good.

I never claimed to be the best and consider myself a DECENT PVPer. I dont expect to win 24/7 all the time. I simply am tired of unkillable sweatlords who face tank literally several people then turn around and clap cheeks on the entire group. Sorry, but that is not skill but rather a broken build played by a skilled player.

Furthermore, I personally have experienced many skills simply not firing off, skills being bugged and not working (leaps, pulls, etc) and break free hardly ever works when you have a full stamina bar. Let's not mention bar swap that is either laggy or just doesnt work.

Bottom line, I was paying monthly for this game, and now I'm not. I'm just 1 player, but I'm taking my money to another game. ZOS gives 0 fhuks about PVP and its evident every major update. PVE makes up probably 95% of the playerbase so they dont care.

[Varrning Skopeftis]

zos balancer without brains

[Frostbite]

Origineel geplaatst door A-Dawg:

Bottom line, I was paying monthly for this game, and now I'm not. I'm just 1 player, but I'm taking my money to another game. ZOS gives 0 fhuks about PVP and its evident every major update. PVE makes up probably 95% of the playerbase so they dont care.

PvP is broken and very trashy in this game, i agree with you on that.

However, you cant really deem an entire MMORPG bad because of it. Since time immemorial, MMROPGs have been about PvE, as they should be.

You want PvP, play brawler games like Brawlhalla or Battlerite, or MOBAs that you are familiar with.

[MajBludd]

Origineel geplaatst door Stivii:

You people just don't get it. PvP in ESO is never going to be what you want it to be. For PvP to be good it has to be skill based and ESO is as far away from skill based as you can get. A game where every class is this tanky, damage dealing, healing juggernaut with no CD on key skills. Give me a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ break. This is a game of numbers not skill.

It was what we wanted it to be. Then zos did what zos does. The biggest problem with pvp is performance. Never heard of any of those games you listed.

[3201]

i took a break, and never came back, and i don't regret it one moment. be done with it forever, you will feel so much better.

[A-Dawg]

Origineel geplaatst door Frostbite:

PvP is broken and very trashy in this game, i agree with you on that.

However, you cant really deem an entire MMORPG bad because of it. Since time immemorial, MMROPGs have been about PvE, as they should be.

You want PvP, play brawler games like Brawlhalla or Battlerite, or MOBAs that you are familiar with.

Yeah I'm thinking regular action RPGs or a MOBA. Never played a MOBA. Doesn't satisfy my thirst for large scale PVP and forming squads in open world sandbox type environments, however.

Origineel geplaatst door MajBludd:

It was what we wanted it to be. Then zos did what zos does. The biggest problem with pvp is performance. Never heard of any of those games you listed.

Yup, the lack of Give-a-SH*T on their part is apparent when they give us an outfit that you can ONLY OBTAIN IN PVP...like WOOOH HOOO no one friggen cares.

Origineel geplaatst door 3201:

i took a break, and never came back, and i don't regret it one moment. be done with it forever, you will feel so much better.

Nice, problem is all other MMOs are either dead, super cartoony, or the combat is dull and boring as hell. Just did some PVP in GW2 and omfg the combat system is lame.

[Kissing Fish]

I get you posting 'buh bye' posts here cuz its not allowed in the official forums, unfortunately no one from ESO ever comes here..so :shrugs:

[A-Dawg]

Origineel geplaatst door Basil.ThreeKings:

I get you posting 'buh bye' posts here cuz its not allowed in the official forums, unfortunately no one from ESO ever comes here..so :shrugs:

Yup. Their "Fact check" enforcer team is quite powerful indeed. Can't have the cognitive dissonance broken!

I'm searching and searching for a replacement game. Not going well lol.

[PortalShifter]

People really believe that PVP can actually be balanced in any game?

Ha.

[Thomas D.]

It can. Chess for example 😂

[MMOGamer71]

Origineel geplaatst door Thomas D.:

It can. Chess for example 😂

Chess isn't an MMORPG PvP game. It's a 1 vs 1 game and in tournament play is defined by an ELO (which there are many) OR independent (which there are many) scoring system dependent on the tournament and/or rules.

Edit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_rating_system
Anyone that ACTUALLY plays chess knows this.

[Thomas D.]

But chess is a game and chess is PVP and it's balanced, I don't see anything wrong 🤣!