We all should boycot ESO to get them to include craft bag without ESO+

[Yama Kinoko]

After spending almost 2000hrs and hundreds of dollars this game is unaplayable without eso plus. this is absurd! its a big slap in the face and all those who continue not to speak up are allowing developers to use micro transactions and subscriptions to milk us and not actually give us the content we deserve. Lets all make a stand!

[Silent Fart Drifter]

That would be much better, would be playing more if the craft bag wasn't held on to the monthly sub, With over a 1,000 hours hours and being subbed for most of it.
Monthly for dlc makes sense but not the craft bag

[Yama Kinoko]

Originally posted by WhitePowerRanger:

That would be much better, would be playing more if the craft bag wasn't held on to the monthly sub, With over a 1,000 hours hours and being subbed for most of it.
Monthly for dlc makes sense but not the craft bag :Ebonheart:

Agreed, DLCs for eso+ is reasonable.

[MorningStar]

Craft bag should be sold as a perma thing in the crown store imo

[Knavenformed]

It's a weird thing since for a new player ESO+ is great for DLC.
An older player it's for the bag.

But the thing is the bag is a solution to a problem the devs have created.
But a craft bag for everyone would do stupid things to the market.
Removing the craft bag completely is way too late now to fix some of the economy.

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by Knavenformed:

It's a weird thing since for a new player ESO+ is great for DLC.
An older player it's for the bag.

But the thing is the bag is a solution to a problem the devs have created.
But a craft bag for everyone would do stupid things to the market.
Removing the craft bag completely is way too late now to fix some of the economy.

Agreed. But there may be other ways. Possibly remove the limit on the backpack so that as long as you've got the gold you can upgrade it?

[Lemonidas of Sourta]

Honestly I find that making a mule character or two solves most problems. My main space occupiers are style materials and processed materials. They kinda clog up the bank when I don't get any master writs or when I'm waiting for my crafted items to sell in the guild store. Solution?

Store all rare style mats and extra processed mats( around 2k of them each) on one of my mules. and got rid of green and blue rarity potency runes. Also you don't absolutely need ALL the provisioner stuff. Just the ones for daily writs and your main stat foods.

This way you can access the materials when you need to like when you have to craft a certain thing in certain style and sell all alchemy things beyond the usual 200 stack. I've always been a crafter and at 1k hours, I have never subscribed to ESO Plus apart from free trials and never had any problems with space. All it takes is some planning and foresight.

That being said, I agree that the craft bag is quite a crappy thing to hold over non subscribed players.

EDIT : You can also store away extra improvement materials on the mules because you're almost never gonna use up all 200 of them even on some of your dedicated crafting binges. I have 500+ of everything except gold rarity improvement materials on a mule and I just resupply when needed.

[Ghetto Gecko]

Originally posted by Yama Kinoko:

After spending almost 2000hrs and hundreds of dollars this game is unaplayable without eso plus.

9.000 hours here without ESO+. It's for sure playable and not really needed.

[warmonger3]

You don't need every piece of junk in that bag. It's there to make you think you need the bag to craft and therefore that you need to sub to craft. None of it is true. Hence the racket.

[∆Renz1n∆]

Feels bad that lots of stuff is Plus only . If crafting wouldn't be locked behind a paywall i would have made enough gold to trade for DLC's on tce

[WolfWrag]

Originally posted by Ghetto Gecko:

Originally posted by Yama Kinoko:

After spending almost 2000hrs and hundreds of dollars this game is unaplayable without eso plus.

9.000 hours here without ESO+. It's for sure playable and not really needed.

maybe its not needed but its nice to have it.. its saves so much time, your time, of managing your inventory. i used to play without it, but once i get taste of it i wont play without it. Its so nice to be able quest/explore and do my thing in general without every 30min poking in to my bag/running back to traders/bank or even switching around characters just to store items

also giving bag to every one would solve that stupid thing when you found treasure chest that is already looted with some crappy leftover in it

[Turtleswatter]

also giving bag to every one would solve that stupid thing when you found treasure chest that is already looted with some crappy leftover in it

Bet it wouldn't. I think they seriously enjoy leaving stuff in chests because they know it annoys the reasonable people :D

[whocares916]

its times like this i am glad i choose to just vendor trash all my mats ^_- why waste time with crafting if i am not going to be a eso + member lol

[Null]

there are around 600 different type of items that you keep in craft bag

inventory space including your personal bank cant cover this amount.
You can buy 10 ESO accounts on PC in order to make private guild and gain access to private guild bank. That will be about 500 extra space - but you can't use items in guild bank for instant crafting or storage access. So you would have to keep all your consumables and gear in guild bank, meanwhile having your personal bank and inventory space filled with crafting mats.

there is no working alternative to craft bag. for someone who does not own 10 ESO accounts.

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by null:

there are around 600 different type of items that you keep in craft bag

inventory space including your personal bank cant cover this amount.
You can buy 10 ESO accounts on PC in order to make private guild and gain access to private guild bank. That will be about 500 extra space - but you can't use items in guild bank for instant crafting or storage access. So you would have to keep all your consumables and gear in guild bank, meanwhile having your personal bank and inventory space filled with crafting mats.

there is no working alternative to craft bag. for someone who does not own 10 ESO accounts.

In reality there are only a few of those 600 types that you need or use at any one time. I can make you a list of around 30 items that can see you through a normal character progression, being able to do daily writs. Obviously that list will change as you progress, so hoarding iron at level 1-14 will change to high iron ore at 16 onwards. Or the provisioning writ tends to ask for the same 2 or 3 recipies so you only need to store those ingredients. Similarly for alchemy. For the gaps guild traders sell mats really cheap.

I played for 18 months with no craft bag and only made 2 mules, while levelling a crafter. You just need to be disciplined with what you keep.

Is the craft bag a massive quality of life improvement? Hell yes
Is it vital? Absolutely not.

[Pʳᵒᶠ ◁⌧▷ Cʳᶦⁿᵍᵉ]

Id be happy with using useless items such as wardrobe/chest of draws in my house for storage, same as the rest of elder scrolls games. Of course you would have to buy a house. Also remove restrictions on so called 'special' collectables, id prefer to use all my nice plaques, not just one or two. Small house at least 5x60 storage medium house at least 10x60 storage an large at least 20x60 storage. makes sense.