The Elder Scrolls Online

The Elder Scrolls Online

vior wolfkin Apr 26, 2021 @ 7:38am
Alchemy is great ! Simply by destroying all those useless ingredients you gain tons of space in your bank !
I would like to learn alchemy but the rarity of so many vital ingredients means that it is almost impossible to fill enough writs to gain any decent levels ! ...Maybe if you are in a guild and your buddies keep giving you the ingredients that are impossibly rare ??But i want to play lone wolf ! So alchemy is just a liability
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Lady_Galadhiel Apr 26, 2021 @ 7:50am 
Uhm I don't know if I did understand you correct but you level up alchemy by crafting potions and poisons.Doing daily writs is just very small experience you gain.
Crafting a lot of cheap poisos is how most people level up alchemy fast.

Dunno if this will help you but here is a guide what explains is good:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-alchemy-guide-crafting/

Getting it to level 50 in one go could be a little expensive tho,I would recommend it doing it step by step with what ingredientes you have to craft preferbly poisons as those ingredientes are cheaper.
Psyringe Apr 26, 2021 @ 7:53am 
Which "impossibly rare" ingredients are you talking about exactly? The first levels of alchemy writs just ask for standard potions (health / magicka / stamina and the odd "ravage" potions), plus a few flowers. None of this is even _slightly_ rare, none of this takes more than a few minutes to gather. And if, for some reason, you have trouble finding them, you find all of them at guild traders. You know that you can buy from guild traders without being a member of the guild, right?

I'm sorry, but I really can't imagine what you are talking about (or if you were just making a joke post). I played until CP 450 on a purely solo/self-found basis (meaning I didn't even use guild traders) and never had problems finding ingredients. I mean, they are literally growing everywhere in the world, you just need to pick them up.
Last edited by Psyringe; Apr 26, 2021 @ 7:55am
vior wolfkin Apr 26, 2021 @ 9:33am 
I am a newbie but i read on lots of sites that wormwood is almost impossible to find . I have found one ! ..in around 140 hours of play ! You need 3 for one of the first writs ! ... But as far as making potions is concerned ?? WHY ?? Food so far seems to be far more beneficial ! ... Poisons mean your weapon enchantments are cancelled ! ergo i see no point enchanting my blade for 1200 frost damage and then wiping that out for 400 poison damage ! .... Strange thing though ,, Most players seem to agree some ingredients ie Wormwood are almost impossibe to find whilst a very small minority call poo poo and tell you , just beg t from a guild ! .... As i understand guilds this is not going to happen with any player less than champion level ! ... I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME ! NOT HAVE DADDY PLAY FOR ME !
Dex Apr 26, 2021 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by vior wolfkin:
I am a newbie but i read on lots of sites that wormwood is almost impossible to find . I have found one ! ..in around 140 hours of play ! You need 3 for one of the first writs ! ... But as far as making potions is concerned ?? WHY ?? Food so far seems to be far more beneficial ! ... Poisons mean your weapon enchantments are cancelled ! ergo i see no point enchanting my blade for 1200 frost damage and then wiping that out for 400 poison damage ! .... Strange thing though ,, Most players seem to agree some ingredients ie Wormwood are almost impossibe to find whilst a very small minority call poo poo and tell you , just beg t from a guild ! .... As i understand guilds this is not going to happen with any player less than champion level ! ... I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME ! NOT HAVE DADDY PLAY FOR ME !

woo boy. I'll Psyringe handle this one :) tldr; You are indeed a newbie :)
ArcLight Apr 26, 2021 @ 10:18am 
You find alchemy ingredients randomly. I believe you can level your crafting up for each skill tree so that they glow when you are near them. I would honestly just look out for plants when questing and such. You eventually know what the ingredients look like.

If it helps they usually spawn near trees or rocks.
Hylie Pistof Apr 26, 2021 @ 10:32am 
nothing hard about leveling alchemie. and it is very usefull too, because you can make your own (better) potions/poisons.

some basics:
alcast guide is helpfull, read it

add at least one skill point to keen eye passive, then you see the plants better in the world.
when you walk (not ride^^) to quest locations or searching for skyshards and lorebooks, you can collect many plants. and later, with a trading guild you make good gold ^^

you can add points to make severall items each attempt. thats why you better make poisons (up to 16) to lvl, and sell those to the npc merchand = get gold back.

now, start with discovering the traits of the ingredience (take one plant, and add another till the window says "unknown potion/poison).
use only 2 ingredience while lvlng and the highest possible solvent you can use.

increase the solvent lvl you can use when you have the points, soon as possible.

the dailys give you some xp (inspiration) but youll lvl faster with mentioned mechanics. reward for dailys is ok, and later youll get masterwrits, that are much easier to complete as blacksmithing or clothing for example.

install Harvest Map addon = that will mark what you find and you can see it on map & compass (id set the addon, so it only shows on compass, could lag when opening map if you have many markers ;)

poisons on you stamina weapons are usually only in pvp, so nevermind that for pve.

wont say have fun now, but its not that slow as lvlng jewelry or enchanting - so, good luck and happy collecting :lunar2019wavingpig:
Psyringe Apr 26, 2021 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by vior wolfkin:
I am a newbie but i read on lots of sites that wormwood is almost impossible to find . I have found one ! ..in around 140 hours of play !
Wormwood is extremely easy to find. Coincidentally, I have just harvested 5 while riding around Deshaan looking for chests. It is as frequent as other flowers of its type.

If you have only found one so far, then you are either overlooking them, or you are looking in an area where so many people harvest plants that they don't last long. Try looking in a grassy area where not many players are around. Additionally, you can put skill points into "Keen Eye: Reagents" to surround ingredients with a yellow aura that makes them easier to spot. The first level already unlocks at alchemy skill rank 2.

And honestly, if you read sites that tell you Wormwood is hard to find, you really need to find better sources. ;)

Originally posted by vior wolfkin:
Poisons mean your weapon enchantments are cancelled ! ergo i see no point enchanting my blade for 1200 frost damage and then wiping that out for 400 poison damage !
You use poison if you _build_ your character for using poison. You use enchantments if you don't.

Originally posted by vior wolfkin:
.... Strange thing though ,, Most players seem to agree some ingredients ie Wormwood are almost impossibe to find whilst a very small minority call poo poo and tell you , just beg t from a guild !
Could you link me, say, 5 sites where "most players agree" that Wormwood is impossible to find? Because, I'm sorry, that is an absolutely idiotic assessment that anyone with working eyes can disprove just by running across a grassy area for a while.

Originally posted by vior wolfkin:
.... As i understand guilds this is not going to happen with any player less than champion level !
Oh my ... your "understanding" of guilds is apparently as lacking as your understanding of alchemy ingredients. :-/ There are many different types of guilds - some are very ambitious and demand a lot from their players, other are very relaxed and are happy to help newcomers into the game. You can use the filters in the guild finder to search specifically for the ones you want.

I'll be honest with you. I'll also be blunt. You clearly have a _lot_ of misconceptions about the game. Practically every second post that you wrote here in the past few weeks demonstrates that you keep misunderstanding core mechanics of the game. That in itself is not uncommon - the game has lots of systems, and many of them aren't explained very well.

But that's exactly where guilds come in. The chat of a beginner-friendly guild is the best place to learn how the game _actually_ works. And whichever resources you are _currently_ using, seem to be either unreliable, or you keep misunderstanding them due to your lack of knowledge about the game. Either way - if your current approach leads to ridiculous misconceptions like "Wormwood is impossible to find", "Using poison makes no sense", or "Guilds won't help you below champion levels", then it is _clearly_ not working well, and changing it looks like a good idea.
Last edited by Psyringe; Apr 26, 2021 @ 10:50am
Psyringe Apr 26, 2021 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by vior wolfkin:
I am a newbie but i read on lots of sites that wormwood is almost impossible to find . I have found one ! ..in around 140 hours of play !
Ok, here's a screenshot of this "almost impossible to find" plant that I found just a few minutes after writing my previous reply. And I wasn't even looking for it - why would I, it isn't worth much (I'd prefer to find Corn Flowers or Columbine), and I have hundreds in my bag anyway, I was looking for treasure chests instead.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2468918634

Now, if you need 140 hours to find something that someone else can find in a few minutes, doesn't that indicate that your approach _might_ be flawed, rather than the plant being "almost impossible to find"?

EDIT: Also, I wonder what that might be? (found a few minutes later)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2468928569

EDIT: Or that (less than 5 minutes later)?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2468931274

Or that ...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2468937156

Or that ...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2468940553

Or that ...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2468945484

Or that ...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2468956814

I'll stop now. That's 7 Wormwood plants found within 45 minutes while actually looking for treasure chests. In a popular zone at prime time, with lots of other players around who could harvest plants before I see them. Seriously, if you still believe that Wormwood isn't incredibly easy to find, I can't help you.
Last edited by Psyringe; Apr 26, 2021 @ 12:17pm
Space is the Place Apr 26, 2021 @ 11:58am 
The game is desing to make you wish you were ESO+ for that sweet lootbag, alchemy and enchanting both can become quiet annoying to deal if not.

Here´s the trick we all non-ESO+ players use: Create alt characters, level their storage capacities, use them as extra bank spaces. I have one single character for each of those professions. Enchanting can become more viable as you level up the skill with all characters as less and less low level runes come to you, but alchemy will always be a pain in the arse.

There´s suppose to be an eso+ trial period shortly since they kind of mess it up with the one they had planned for this past week, so take advantage of that and farm mats mostly during those periods.
Lady_Galadhiel Apr 26, 2021 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by vior wolfkin:
I am a newbie but i read on lots of sites that wormwood is almost impossible to find . I have found one ! ..in around 140 hours of play ! You need 3 for one of the first writs ! ... But as far as making potions is concerned ?? WHY ?? Food so far seems to be far more beneficial ! ... Poisons mean your weapon enchantments are cancelled ! ergo i see no point enchanting my blade for 1200 frost damage and then wiping that out for 400 poison damage ! .... Strange thing though ,, Most players seem to agree some ingredients ie Wormwood are almost impossibe to find whilst a very small minority call poo poo and tell you , just beg t from a guild ! .... As i understand guilds this is not going to happen with any player less than champion level ! ... I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME ! NOT HAVE DADDY PLAY FOR ME !

Oh... I see I understand now,so you want to do alchemy daily writ and the quest requires from you to craft a potion and you need 3 wormwood to be able to turn the quest in.
Ok well,wormwood is not rare but dificult to see in the open world if you have no passives unlocked yet.
I know how frustrated it can be finding the correct things when you do not have the pssives yet.

What you can try to do to find some wormwood is; go into a zone and in setting turn of the grass,that makes it easier to see the flowers and wormwood because that will be the only small plants around and you can go pick it all up.
Do not get frustrated with it,if you don't find any wormwood or just don't want to do this writ anymore,you can also abandon it and tomorrow take the new daily alchemy writ.
drunken.dx Apr 26, 2021 @ 6:33pm 
"wormwood almost impossible to find"

I facepalmed so hard I have palmprint on my face...

IMHO wormwood is one of EASIEST alch ingredients to spot even without keen eye...

You need to put points in spot...
kip Apr 26, 2021 @ 11:10pm 
As a general rule, most alchemy plants tend to be found in certain areas - e.g mushrooms near trees/logs, nirnroot & Water Hyacinth near water
Plants like Wormwood, Dragonthorn, Blessed Thistle etc are often found in the open, especially in grassy areas

While Wormwood can be found in any zone, some good zones to start with are Khanarthi's Roost, Betnikh and Bal Foyen. Deshaan and Rivenspire (especially up north) are also good places to find it. (if you haven't yet discovered these zones, you can use the navigator to get to them or if you're in a guild you can port to other members who are in those zones free of charge)

As you're new, I highly recommend putting a few skill points into the 'Keen Eye' passive as this will make it much easier for you to see them, especially when it's night time in-game.
You can always respec later on if you wish to, once you know what you're looking for. :)
Last edited by kip; Apr 26, 2021 @ 11:10pm
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