sorcerer vs nightblade??

[monoiyuuki]

which has highest dps when using destruction staves as main weapon?

since a lot of people on google say nightblade, so.... just double-check with some more experienced player

[Lady_Galadhiel]

Right now mNB has higher dps but is more difficult to master than mSorc.
No matter what class you play,you can achieve good dps with all of them once you have decent gear sets and know your skill rotation.

For most content you dont need high dps anyway.

[FTWO]

Magicka Nightblade has higher dps when mastered, but the chances of you getting killed is more likely. Not always, just more likely than a Magicka Sorcerer, which does high dps as well, but the Sorcerer has a much higher Health sustainability than a Magicka Nightblade does. A Magicka Sorcerer can heal itself fast as you do more damage, which is why it's easier to play and the best Class for beginners.

[Brownstone]

The dps difference between classes is minimal so it's not like you're going to say "wish I created x class instead of y" in the future, like ever.

[Elendir Blue]

Veteran trials, mag blade is better because better spammable and execution attacks. Magsorc must use weapon or guild spamable and have very week execution.

Veteran arenas, mag sorc is better, because Sorcerer has a lot of very good utility skills for different situation. So they can stay at attacka and have helth in check in same time. Mag blade need to deal with enemy attacks and lost some of their DPS because of it.

[Brownstone]

Magsorc currently has one of the strongest class spammables

[Elendir Blue]

Crystal Fragments isn't spammable, it is semi-spamable. Using it as spammable leads to lower DPS. You use it only when it proc.

[Brownstone]

Maybe do your research. It's the strongest spammable currently, better than Pulse and Eleweapon

[Elendir Blue]

I run mag sorc at veteran trials HM. I dont need to do any research. I know very well what sorc skills are good at. Fact that you call it spammable shows your ignorance.

[Brownstone]

You're not following the patch notes obviously tho. They reduced the cast time and cost greatly to make it viable as a spammable and currently crystal frag parses higher than the other two spammables. Why are you being so stubborn instead of just saying "maybe, maybe he's telling the truth and i should check" instead of just arguing. I play the vet hms too, that doesn't make you up to date. If you're not checking patch notes after huge updates, you will just not know it.

You're unaware of this year old huge change as a sorc main and calling me ignorant? :P

Or you're just trolling haha

[Brownstone]

Currently i use force pulse for aoe and frags for st. It's definitely the strongest st spammable. I parse higher with it. It also procs itself. Also it reduces skill costs by 10% after casting so very good for sustain as well.

It also opens up bar space

[Elendir Blue]

Frag crystal isn't spammable, this is why you have force pulse there still. If it was clear spammable, you would not use it.
It is semi-spammable. Fact that it is must use for any mag sorc and its best attack class skill will never make it pure spammable.

You can use it insted spammable, but you loose DPS. However you can use freed place on bar for somtning else and get better result.
It is situational and dont work in every situation however.

Most important, question was about mag sorc and blade and mag blade has better spammable skill. You can like it or not, but you will not change it.

[Brownstone]

Nb spammables are also single target so they can be compared to frags. Frags has a cast time of 0.8 sec so it's possible to reach instant cast spammable weaving levels, deals much more damage than swallow soul while also healing you so swallow soul isn't any better than frags imo. Concealed weapon can be a competitor but it's melee, which is a huge downside.

I'd say your argument of "for most of the content force pulse will be preferred as spammable" also applies to nb

[Brownstone]

Originally posted by Elendir Blue:

You can use it insted spammable, but you loose DPS.

It will outperform any other spammable for pure single target situations, go parse and you'll see. I agree that it's not better than Force Pulse for cleave situations but that doesn't mean it doesn't count as a spammable. It's just like one is a st spammable while the other is cleave. Frags is also better than Elemental weapon for almost 100% of the time. I use eleweapon for pvp where I wouln't want to cast anything.

Sorc spammables are:
AoE: Pulse
ST: Frags

Nb spammables are:
AoE: Pulse
ST: Swallow Soul, Concealed Weapon

and i don't think any of these two are stronger than frags.

[Elendir Blue]

Magicka blade use Swallow Soul as main spammable and Assassin's Will (charged Merciless Resolve) in similar way as mag Sorc use frag crystal (when it is ready). Impale for enemies under 25%.
Focused pulse or elemental weapon aren't good enough to get at their bar.

[Brownstone]

Crystal Frag is better than Swallow Soul when compared as a spammable. Both heal the caster but Frags deals more damage and helps with sustain.

Comparing Assassin's Will to Frags is irrelevant here since Assassin's Will cannot be used as a spammable, while Frags can. The only reason Frags isn't preferred for 100% of the content is the cleave part of Force Pulse but like you said, Nbs don't use that so we compare single target damage not aoe. Frags wins.