crafting bag

[lar unuruur]

hello!
id like to see, if i understand correctly - if i buy a blackwood addition, paying 60 euros in total, i still will not get crafting bag?
thank you!

[Therin Skarn]

no you will not you must have ESO+ membership for the craft bag

[Wolverine]

Well, the (unlimited?) crafting bag is part of the ESO+ system, so no, you won't get it through buying the latest DLC.

Just wait for the next sale, buy the Blackwood CE for around 30€, and then get a few months of ESO+ as well.

[lar unuruur]

i see. thank you both for answers.

i see it as nonsense, yet wont rant about it. to pay every month 12 euro for having some damn ingredient bag is just... well.
i guess, it was my last try to look into this game direction. thanks for clarification.

[Sirius]

Originally posted by lar unuruur:

i see it as nonsense, yet wont rant about it. to pay every month 12 euro for having some damn ingredient bag is just... well.

You are not though.
You are also paying for crowns to use in the game store, 10% more XP from everything, and access to ALL DLC and older chapters.

It's not just the bag.

But

Originally posted by lar unuruur:

i guess, it was my last try to look into this game direction.

You mind seems made up, so ok then.

[Paula Deen]

Paying for a game I already paid for to unlock content I am forced to download.... no thanks.

[Hylie Pistof]

you paid for the base game.
and you dont "download" anything, its already there.
you just unlock your access to that, you havent yet paid for^^
the other features of the subscribtion are a catch, i aggree (but they are quite usefull, like that craftbag).
but thats how sales work today :( selling a fridge in island, or a "new" phone every year, for 1k $/€ ^^
now 12 € a month is too much??

[pow4h]

12 € is 3-4 hours of work in Poland and for year its 1/3 of monthly wage.
So its not so little

[MMOGamer71]

Benefits off ESO+ here:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-plus-guide/

If you can't afford it don't buy it, just like everything else.

[Player]

You can buy a Banker (5k crowns) and use it as a crafting bag. 240 slots is enough.
Also the addon "Dustman" is a cool way to make loot management easier :)

[lar unuruur]

Originally posted by Anar Kay:

you paid for the base game.
and you dont "download" anything, its already there.
you just unlock your access to that, you havent yet paid for^^
the other features of the subscribtion are a catch, i aggree (but they are quite usefull, like that craftbag).
but thats how sales work today :( selling a fridge in island, or a "new" phone every year, for 1k $/€ ^^
now 12 € a month is too much??

it is 144 euro per year. for a crafting bag? it is not just far too much, it is simply nonsense!

[MMOGamer71]

Originally posted by lar unuruur:

Originally posted by Anar Kay:

you paid for the base game.
and you dont "download" anything, its already there.
you just unlock your access to that, you havent yet paid for^^
the other features of the subscribtion are a catch, i aggree (but they are quite usefull, like that craftbag).
but thats how sales work today :( selling a fridge in island, or a "new" phone every year, for 1k $/€ ^^
now 12 € a month is too much??

it is 144 euro per year. for a crafting bag? it is not just far too much, it is simply nonsense!

There's more to ESO+ than just a crafting bag, you should actually read it before inventing fantasy claims and issues.

Benefits of ESO+ here:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-plus-guide/

If you can't afford it don't buy it, just like everything else.

Edit:
That must be the month to month sub rate, a year in US dollars is $140.00 so that's around 120 EU.

Also at this point in the Blackwood story timeline I would say ESO+ is more important than owning Blackwood and that depends on what DLC you own already.

[Sirius]

Originally posted by lar unuruur:

it is 144 euro per year. for a crafting bag? it is not just far too much, it is simply nonsense!

And yet again you are completely missing the point.
You do NOT pay for the 'crafting bag' only!

Is that concept really this hard to understand?

Or are you just dead set on going "Nyeh. Pe fur craft bog. Nyeah"?
If so, again: fine. Just move on.

But at least try to engage the points made and not ride the dead horse that has been thoroughly explained to be totally not the point? Hm?

Besides crafting is optional and there is SO MUCH information on how to deal with everything if you really do not want to sub. It's totally possible, though it's a hassle.
Crafting is nice to have but the best gear you usually don't craft anyway - plus, there are enough people willing to make use of their master craft toons as long as you are willing to provide the materials - which you can just buy if you don't want to hunt for them selectively.
You know, minimally engage in the community of a game that is marketed as an MMO.

But again: Not understanding the game and hanging yourself on that one - arguably wrong - point is pretty silly.

Do I wish the crafting bag wasn't this restrictive to non subbers? Sure. But you are still not even acknowledging all the things that are included in the price you are so desperately against, so I guess trying to have a discussion with you is pointless.

[Sehkh]

people value the craft bag way too much imho. I guess it can be very useful early on, like the first 50h of gameplay, until you upgrade your bank after that its just low convenience

[lar unuruur]

look, i have 100+ hours in eso in past years. it was acceptable, while i had friends to play with. now, constant struggling with inventory space is REALLY reason what holds me off.
i do crafting in all mmo`s i can remember played.

now about other bonuses, what 120-140 per year will give.
i could not care less about ALL of them. one and only thing what was hassle in months i played, was constant struggle with inventory and bank space. now THAT i care. more xp i do not care at all. all bonuses they give for THAT much of money are meaningless.

look, i buy content and just want to be able play content without struggling. that is all. so simple. i am fine to pay for all ACTUAL CONTENT, but not for things what should be in game form the get go.

i hope you guys understand, that devs make such burdens not by conincidence, right? they sell product, they hold on to something important enough, that people too often choose to get by things like that.

i really did not wanted to rant and thanks for clearing my misunderstandings.
to each their own.
i hoped if id buy all content, i would GET all content.
this chinese business style....

not here for flame wars. peace.

[MMOGamer71]

Originally posted by lar unuruur:

look, i have 100+ hours in eso in past years. it was acceptable, while i had friends to play with. now, constant struggling with inventory space is REALLY reason what holds me off.
i do crafting in all mmo`s i can remember played.

now about other bonuses, what 120-140 per year will give.
i could not care less about ALL of them. one and only thing what was hassle in months i played, was constant struggle with inventory and bank space. now THAT i care. more xp i do not care at all. all bonuses they give for THAT much of money are meaningless.

look, i buy content and just want to be able play content without struggling. that is all. so simple. i am fine to pay for all ACTUAL CONTENT, but not for things what should be in game form the get go.

i hope you guys understand, that devs make such burdens not by conincidence, right? they sell product, they hold on to something important enough, that people too often choose to get by things like that.

i really did not wanted to rant and thanks for clearing my misunderstandings.
to each their own.
i hoped if id buy all content, i would GET all content.
this chinese business style....

not here for flame wars. peace.

If you have that much time in ESO, your characters and account storage should be maxed out via ingame gold making the ESO+ crafting bag meaningless. An optional crafting bag isn't content and I'm not sure what you mean by "Chinese business style."