About DLCs and buying options.

[Haplo]

Hello. I was bought "The Elder Scrolls® Online: Tamriel Unlimited" edition back in summer 2017. I guess I don't have any DLCs.

Are "Greymoor, Elsweyr, Summerset and Morrowind" only DLC that came out so far? Which one was first, which one is next and last? I guess the Standard Edition gives only the Morrowind Chapter but do I have to pay for the base game again and not get any copy? And is that "Greymoor Upgrade DLC" doesn't give anything other than itself?

It's complicated...

[Isabella Swan]

The last one is Greymoor and does not give you anything else other than itself. You can have access to all the DLCs like Elsweyr, Summerset etc if you have an ESO Plus membership.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/esoplus

[Haplo]

Originally posted by Bellatrix:

The last one is Greymoor and does not give you anything else other than itself. You can have access to all the DLCs like Elsweyr, Summerset etc if you have an ESO Plus membership.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/esoplus

I see. That is more expensive option than buying all the DLCs.

Meanwhile, I just saw there is 20 DLCs that you can buy with crowns in the ESO Crown Shop. Some cheap, some expensive. Does buying "Greymoor, Elsweyr, Summerset and Morrowind Chapters" cover the rest like "Dark Brotherhood, Dragon Bones, Orsinium, Thieves Guild" etc.?

[Turtleswatter]

There is a bundle in the store currently with all the chapters for around £18. It won't give you a copy of the base game but it's still a really cheap way to get all the chapters.

Rule of thumb for anything that ESO sells - because as you say, they make it very complicated - If it doesn't mention it in the description, you don't get it. There are never any hidden extras and you only get exactly what is mentioned and no more.

This means that, as far as I can see, there is no DLC included in any of the bundles this year.

My usual suggestion - and I'm not the only one, I know. Is to play with what you buy first. There's lots of hours gameplay without all the other stuff.

If/when you feel the need to expand buy one month of ESO+. This gives you 1650 crowns, access to all the DLC and the crafting bag, extra storage space.

Spend your month collecting everything for the bag and try out the DLC's and then decide how you're going to spend your crowns. Anything you buy with crowns will be yours when the plus subscription runs out. As long as you cancel the subscription as soon as you buy it then you'll only get charged for the one month and it's much better value than buying the crowns outright.

[Haplo]

Originally posted by Turtleswatter:

There is a bundle in the store currently with all the chapters for around £18. It won't give you a copy of the base game but it's still a really cheap way to get all the chapters.

Rule of thumb for anything that ESO sells - because as you say, they make it very complicated - If it doesn't mention it in the description, you don't get it. There are never any hidden extras and you only get exactly what is mentioned and no more.

This means that, as far as I can see, there is no DLC included in any of the bundles this year.

My usual suggestion - and I'm not the only one, I know. Is to play with what you buy first. There's lots of hours gameplay without all the other stuff.

If/when you feel the need to expand buy one month of ESO+. This gives you 1650 crowns, access to all the DLC and the crafting bag, extra storage space.

Spend your month collecting everything for the bag and try out the DLC's and then decide how you're going to spend your crowns. Anything you buy with crowns will be yours when the plus subscription runs out. As long as you cancel the subscription as soon as you buy it then you'll only get charged for the one month and it's much better value than buying the crowns outright.

By the "bundle in the store" do you mean Steam store or ESO crown store? I am guessing buying chapters from Steam is better than buying it with the crowns.

I calculated some values:
Buying "The Elder Scrolls Online (base game) - Greymoor (includes Greymoor, Elsweyr, Summerset and Morrowind Chapters)" is cheaper than buying 3 Month ESO+ (which brings 4950 crowns) and you can't buy these chapters.

There is "Guilds and Glory mega-pack (the first 4-DLC)" for 4000 crowns but I checked that the first 4-dlc is not includes any of the chapters we mentioned above but "Imperial City, Orsinium, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood DLC"

Oh and buying 5500 crowns directly is a bit cheaper than buying "ESO + 4 chapters" but again, you can't even buy two chapters since a chapter costs 3500 crowns alone.

It's really confusing. I thought there was only 4 DLC since I did not see any other DLCs in the Steam store but only these ones that called "chapters" and I always thought those chapters unlocks new areas and cities in the map. But looks like not only 4 chapters, but these other cheaper DLCs also unlocks new maps that you can't reach with the "4 chapters DLC".

I can't afford the ESO+ membership each month to keep playing. I want to pay once and play whenever I want. So that is not a good option for me since 3 months ESO+ is expensive than "4-chapters dlc pack".

I don't know what all these are about.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Haplo:

By the "bundle in the store" do you mean Steam store or ESO crown store?

No, he means this one: https://store.steampowered.com/sub/417044/

Originally posted by Haplo:

I can't afford the ESO+ membership each month to keep playing. I want to pay once and play whenever I want.

You do not need an ESO+ membership to play. However, if you want to have access to all areas, then an ESO+ membership (after buying the bundle linked above) is the cheapest way to get that. As you noticed, there are lots of additional DLCs that add smaller areas (or dungeons). Those are only available in the crown store, and they are prohibitively expensive. But you get access to all of them for as long as you're subscribed.

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by Haplo:

By the "bundle in the store" do you mean Steam store or ESO crown store?

No, he means this one: https://store.steampowered.com/sub/417044/

Originally posted by Haplo:

I can't afford the ESO+ membership each month to keep playing. I want to pay once and play whenever I want.

You do not need an ESO+ membership to play. However, if you want to have access to all areas, then an ESO+ membership (after buying the bundle linked above) is the cheapest way to get that. As you noticed, there are lots of additional DLCs that add smaller areas (or dungeons). Those are only available in the crown store, and they are prohibitively expensive. But you get access to all of them for as long as you're subscribed.

Hi, yes, I'm sorry I was unclear. I meant that you buy the chapters and base game in the Steam sale. Never buy old chapters in the crown store it is the most expensive way of doing it.

Assuming you're going to buy the bundle from the steam store (just for the sake of argument). Your next question was about all the little DLCs that you can buy with crowns. A subscription to ESO plus buys you crowns plus a lot of little/big extras including access to 95% of the DLCs available. By buying a subscription you can try them out and choose which ones you want to spend your crowns on.

Basically the subscription can be brought either monthly or once for however many months it takes for you to get the crowns you want (for example three months at once or six months at once) and as long as you remember to go in and cancel it straight away, is no more trouble than buying crowns.

Having said that you don't need the DLCs and if you're going to buy the bundle you will have so much to do that I don't think you'll need more content for a while.

[Haplo]

I see. Thank you all.

And yes, there is a lot of content. As I mentioned in my first message, I bought the game many years ago but I only played about 100 hours and left. I was found myself lost in many addons and quests, so little I was able to done. Still, I'm over 150 hours and I barely got level 32 and another character 19 and I did not went with the main quest line after the first cave action. There was too much things to read and do and decide.

I wanted chapters not only because it unlocks big areas but it adds new classes, skills, things like jewelery crafting and cap it all off with the antiquities/archeology since I really like to explore and collection rather than action over action. So that was all.

I think I will buy 4 chapters from Steam. Thanks again.

[Eriane]

So far I'm enjoying the game but there's a lot of walls set up which makes me, an experienced MMO player difficult to understand and in many ways accept so I wonder how someone new to the genre feels. $15 for one small thing and $15 for another small thing, all of it digital and they will all become nothing once ESO reaches end of life. One mount might cost $250, maybe more. The DLC system is overly confusing and it's part of the reason why I hesitated to even start playing.

Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying this game so far but at the same time the theme of greed is not subtle at all here. But at least you can buy crowns with gold. But if you want to buy the DLCs, they do have sales. Just a week ago or so they had 4 DLCs for 1500 crowns or something.

[Haplo]

Oh I've realized something. Does anyone know what "Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade" includes? I've tried to check on web but it doesn't tell anything about "Elsweyr, Morrowind and Summerset".

BUT if we check "Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition" (Not the "Upgrade") it says "Elsweyr, Morrowind and Summerset" included.

Where do I fact check? Damn the sales deparment, is it so hard to give a good and complete information?

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Haplo:

Oh I've realized something. Does anyone know what "Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade" includes?

It includes Greymoor and some Greymoor-related collectibles.

Originally posted by Haplo:

BUT if we check "Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition" (Not the "Upgrade") it says "Elsweyr, Morrowind and Summerset" included.

Yes, because that's a different edition. This one includes the base game, all chapters, and more collectibles related to all chapters.

Most people regard the collector's editions as not worth the additional cost, that's why no one talked about them in this thread. I mean, you're saying that you can't afford ESO+, so why would you spend extra money for just a few cosmetics?

[Haplo]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by Haplo:

Oh I've realized something. Does anyone know what "Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade" includes?

It includes Greymoor and some Greymoor-related collectibles.

Originally posted by Haplo:

BUT if we check "Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition" (Not the "Upgrade") it says "Elsweyr, Morrowind and Summerset" included.

Yes, because that's a different edition. This one includes the base game, all chapters, and more collectibles related to all chapters.

Most people regard the collector's editions as not worth the additional cost, that's why no one talked about them in this thread. I mean, you're saying that you can't afford ESO+, so why would you spend extra money for just a few cosmetics?

I don't mind cosmetics. I thought that "Collector's Edition Upgrade" version maybe includes old chapters. And since I had the base game and the "Collector's Edition Upgrade" was cheaper than "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor (Includes The Elder Scrolls Online base game, Greymoor, Elsweyr, Summerset and Morrowind Chapters)" I thought I could buy that.

This is so weird and absolutely bs. "Greymoor Digital Collector's Edition" includes all 4 chapters but if we want to UPGRADE to "Digital Collector's Edition" that doesn't includes any chapters but only Greymoor. This is literally a scam tactics to ripoff people. There is no logic behind it and I don't really understand who came up with a thing like this if wasn't thinking to scam people.

I guess the cheapest option to get all 4 chapters is to buy "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor". Even if I have the base game already, they are making me pay for the base game again and not give an extra copy. That's sad.

Thank you for help. I also just read some negative review comments on Steam ESO dlc store page; and there are a lot of people mistakenly bought that version thinking the "Collector's Edition upgrade" would make you get the "Collector's Edition" without the base game. But it wasn't and they are scammed. Glad I've asked.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Haplo:

I don't mind cosmetics. I thought that "Collector's Edition Upgrade" version maybe includes old chapters.

Why would it? You have been told multiple times that these chapters are only included when they are explicitly mentioned.

You have a weird way of making things unnecessarily hard for yourself by not listening to what people tell you. You can get a lot of useful advice here, but if you don't listen to what we say, we can hardly help.

Originally posted by Haplo:

I guess the cheapest option to get all 4 chapters is to buy "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor".

Okay. So after we _told_ you that this is the cheapest way to get all chapters, and _explained_ it to you, you now "guess" that our advice was indeed correct.

I "guess" that's a good thing, but honestly, you're making this way harder for you than necessary. But you're right about Zenimax not properly explaining or even naming their products, that's on them and it can indeed be seen as scammy.

[Haplo]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by Haplo:

I don't mind cosmetics. I thought that "Collector's Edition Upgrade" version maybe includes old chapters.

Why would it? You have been told multiple times that these chapters are only included when they are explicitly mentioned.

You have a weird way of making things unnecessarily hard for yourself by not listening to what people tell you. You can get a lot of useful advice here, but if you don't listen to what we say, we can hardly help.

Originally posted by Haplo:

I guess the cheapest option to get all 4 chapters is to buy "The Elder Scrolls Online - Greymoor".

Okay. So after we _told_ you that this is the cheapest way to get all chapters, and _explained_ it to you, you now "guess" that our advice was indeed correct.

I "guess" that's a good thing, but honestly, you're making this way harder for you than necessary. But you're right about Zenimax not properly explaining or even naming their products, that's on them and it can indeed be seen as scammy.

Well, my bad, sorry. But indeed their way of naming products is confusing a lot.

[Turtleswatter]

Rule of thumb for anything that ESO sells - because as you say, they make it very complicated - If it doesn't mention it in the description, you don't get it. There are never any hidden extras and you only get exactly what is mentioned and no more.

That is it. No argument. I know if your mind works in a certain way this can be difficult but you need to accept this. Once you do things become much simpler.