So tired of the limited inventory space and the forced ESO sub

[TomCat86]

We buy the game and 70$ worth of DLC and they still make our time grieved by this crafting bag and limited inventory space they force on us. This is shady and disapointing Free to play mechanics in a game we bought and its not even a free to play C class company. This is a game from a Tripple A company we actually paid for.

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Thank you bethesda for this great product.
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What do they do with the eso sub money? They dont fix dungeon bugs that have been here since release, they dont fix any bugs. They add more extremely shallow lazy DLC $

[Musoyama]

Цитата допису BatushkaTabushka:

I do 6 daily writ on 8 characters every day, and I still have 20-60 free slots on my characters even though I keep hoarding set items, surveys and trasmutation globes
I start every character by unlocking the first 4 inventory upgrades and upgrade inv space every day.... most of my chars have around 110-130 space right now, only 1 is close to 160 and I have 140 bank space... plus 1 chest at home... and guild bank
what are you doing to have so little inventory space?

I didn't know about these inventory unlocks and expanding space. Can you explain, or point me to a guide, please? Thanks for this!

[Wo1f]

OP is right,

This game is all about making the player frustrated through not only inventory limitations but also excessive grind, tons of bugs, idiotic game changes ("balancing" - yeah right, what balancing when they refuse to separate pvp from pve so that changes to one do not adversly influence the other) etc (i could write an essay on all the things wrong with the game and ZOS and what should be improved).

2 years ago I bought the base game on sale and only because i heard that the game became buy-to-play, whereas it was buy+monthly subscription in the beginning.

When I started playing after only 2-3 months of owning the game, i immediately realized that i would need to 1) spend alot of my ingame time just grinding gold for bag and bank upgrades and 2) spend additional money on some dlcs.

Because I hate subscriptions in any game and i was not gonna pay a monthly fee for this game just to be able to not constantly be playing the inventory manager game instead of the actual mmorpg game that i already paid for, i decided to grit my teeth and make do with the mightily annoying limitations and grind.

Almost the whole first year was spent on grinding gold for inventory, grinding mount upgrades while getting my first character to level cap and grinding crafting skills and crafting research.
So basically the whole first year of playing was just grind, with little time to enjoy the game properly.

Almost all the guides on youtube that i looked up on how to earn more gold told me i basically need to either farm mats and sell them or steal lots and lots of stuff and fence for gold.
But when you are not max level yet, mats are low level and not worth much, so stealing was the better option.

But in order to be effective at stealing they all said get blade of woe to be able to pickpocket and steal affectively. And to get blade of woe i had to spend more money to buy 2 dlcs (actually i crowns on sale and with them bought a 4 dlc pack which included the 2 needed for thieving).

When i finally grinded my way through the 2 dlcs that benefit thieving, i could finally start to get some decent amount of gold for my char and upgrade the bank and bag to max. But this still wasn't enough because there are a milion things you need to keep esp for crafting. So on top of grinding ever more gold, i also had to create mule characters and upgrade their inventories to hold some of the stuff. Thus my first year of ESO has passed in bussywork/grind.

It was only during the second year and onwards that i could finally start to play the actual game content and make some more characters of different classes to level up and enjoy.

However, the inventory manager minigame still remains to this day and constitutes 50% of my total play time any time i log in, with tons and tons of materials and collected sets and other stuff that needs to be managed through bank, character inventories, home storage.

I take advantage of periodic eso+ trial periods to transfer all the mats to craftbag for free,
but after that when i deplete all the mats from the bag, i need to sart collecting them all over again and the inventory management painpoint comes back.

I know, i should have realized early on that this game was going to be an bottomless money (dlcs) and time (all sorts of grind) pit, and sometimes i think i must be a masochist and a gluton for punishment for having kept playing the game, but i must addmit that the game can be fun and addicting, that is if and when you get enough ingame funds to make the inventory limitations a bit less painfull.

[🐺Blue Wolf]

I think too many people got into this game thinking it was going to be a bigger skyrim. It's an MMO, they need to give people a reason to sub to ESO+ to keep the game going.

It's quite possible to simply buy the basegame (which includes Morrowind now I believe) for $10-20 and never spend a single penny more on it.

Want more space without buying ESO+? Grind for gold and buy your upgrades for the bag and bank

[Wolfstorm]

I dont see too much grind in this game. I remember that when I played Warframe, the grinding was much more intense, and you had to see the same scenery everyday. The RNG was also much more cruel, in my opinion.

In ESO I can change characters, look at different landscapes, and the grind, when it happens, is softened. Generally I only grind when I need to level up a character, doing dungeons and dolmen runs, but after he reaches level 50 I dont grind anymore. I dont give two ♥♥♥♥♥ for the CP 1337 competition, and everytime I go tanking into a pledged dungeon (for undaunted keys), and someone start complaining about my role, I dont say anything, I just report him right on the spot, with extreme prejudice.

[The Tear Collector]

Цитата допису TomCat86:

We buy the game and 70$ worth of DLC and they still make our time grieved by this crafting bag and limited inventory space they force on us. This is shady and disapointing Free to play mechanics in a game we bought and its not even a free to play C class company. This is a game from a Tripple A company we actually paid for.

https://i.imgflip.com/21jac9.jpg

Thank you bethesda for this great product.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42409000/jpg/_42409829_poo_sprinkles_reuters.jpg

What do they do with the eso sub money? They dont fix dungeon bugs that have been here since release, they dont fix any bugs. They add more extremely shallow lazy DLC $

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[Zekh]

Bro there's litteraly a free ESO trial rn to fill your craft bag, stop whining.

[Mreisse]

Цитата допису Musoyama:

I didn't know about these inventory unlocks and expanding space. Can you explain, or point me to a guide, please? Thanks for this!

Pro tip: all of this costs buckets of gold so steal/fence everything, and daily writs if you can stand it as it's the easiest money in game.

You can buy bank "upgrade" (10 slots at a time) from the banker up to 240 slots.

You can buy bag upgrade (also 10 at a time) from pack merchants up to 140 slots.

You can train "capacity" at the stables for 250 gold per bag slot (up to 60), but the catch is you have to equip a horse to activate it (you get a free horse at lvl10 if nothing else) and you can only buy 1 slot per 20 hours so it takes a while to add up. You can buy the slots even if you have no horse yet, you just won't get them until you assign a mount to the character.

There are also the storage chests for your house. You get one free at lvl18, you can buy 7 others with writ vouchers or crowns (or join one of the crown exchange groups and exchange the crown item for game gold). Things in chests will not appear in crafting stations so use them for things you don't want to craft with.

Finally you get a chance to load all mats into the craft bag next week because of the ESO+ free trial so that is the time to go farming LOL

[Neocronic]

Also you need live in game for unlocks. 24 days login - DLC. 180 days - horse, over one year - learning crafts.

Game still not have auction, if you plan to sell something you need guild, even if you play only solo. Also almost all trade guilds have taxes, you can't join and trade, you need sell a lot or pay money in guild bank. If you not pay they kick you from guild. Also if you not play one day they kick you too.

Achievements can have only one char. You need grind skill points again and again when you make new character. Crafts and horse too. Also most DLC, even big one like Morrowind give maybe 5-6 hours of content and costs a lot.

Most of benefits only in sub. You can't use this without paying. Also you can't buy sub with your gold (you can buy every item in shop thought gifts).

Ok we buy game, gold edition, all dlc and still not have anything. Need grind 24/7 one year for common things from other mmo's.

[Soul2506]

Цитата допису Wolfstorm:

I dont see too much grind in this game. I remember that when I played Warframe, the grinding was much more intense, and you had to see the same scenery everyday. The RNG was also much more cruel, in my opinion.

In ESO I can change characters, look at different landscapes, and the grind, when it happens, is softened. Generally I only grind when I need to level up a character, doing dungeons and dolmen runs, but after he reaches level 50 I dont grind anymore. I dont give two ♥♥♥♥♥ for the CP 1337 competition, and everytime I go tanking into a pledged dungeon (for undaunted keys), and someone start complaining about my role, I dont say anything, I just report him right on the spot, with extreme prejudice.

Warframe is F2P whereas you have to pay 30 bucks in order to play eso check before you give examples and off all players count shows which game is doing better

[ArcLight]

Цитата допису Neocronic:

Also you need live in game for unlocks. 24 days login - DLC. 180 days - horse, over one year - learning crafts.

Game still not have auction, if you plan to sell something you need guild, even if you play only solo. Also almost all trade guilds have taxes, you can't join and trade, you need sell a lot or pay money in guild bank. If you not pay they kick you from guild. Also if you not play one day they kick you too.

Achievements can have only one char. You need grind skill points again and again when you make new character. Crafts and horse too. Also most DLC, even big one like Morrowind give maybe 5-6 hours of content and costs a lot.

Most of benefits only in sub. You can't use this without paying. Also you can't buy sub with your gold (you can buy every item in shop thought gifts).

Ok we buy game, gold edition, all dlc and still not have anything. Need grind 24/7 one year for common things from other mmo's.

How did Morrowind only have 5-6 hours of content? Mabye if you only do the storyline and skip all the dialogue and ignore exploring sure, but then that's what you do, if you do the side quests and explore the place it has alot more to offer.

[Dragonbored]

Find a friend who has plus and just send your stuff to them... I have Plus MY GF does not, she just sends me her stuff when her inventory fills up... Simple

[Musoyama]

Цитата допису Mreisse:

Цитата допису Musoyama:

I didn't know about these inventory unlocks and expanding space. Can you explain, or point me to a guide, please? Thanks for this!

Pro tip: all of this costs buckets of gold so steal/fence everything, and daily writs if you can stand it as it's the easiest money in game.

You can buy bank "upgrade" (10 slots at a time) from the banker up to 240 slots.

You can buy bag upgrade (also 10 at a time) from pack merchants up to 140 slots.

You can train "capacity" at the stables for 250 gold per bag slot (up to 60), but the catch is you have to equip a horse to activate it (you get a free horse at lvl10 if nothing else) and you can only buy 1 slot per 20 hours so it takes a while to add up. You can buy the slots even if you have no horse yet, you just won't get them until you assign a mount to the character.

There are also the storage chests for your house. You get one free at lvl18, you can buy 7 others with writ vouchers or crowns (or join one of the crown exchange groups and exchange the crown item for game gold). Things in chests will not appear in crafting stations so use them for things you don't want to craft with.

Finally you get a chance to load all mats into the craft bag next week because of the ESO+ free trial so that is the time to go farming LOL

Thanks so much! Never knew I could use gold to upgrade inventory. I need to save your comment to refer to during the game LOL.
Back into ESO, I go!

[Wendersnaven]

Цитата допису Wo1f:

Almost the whole first year was spent on grinding gold for inventory, grinding mount upgrades while getting my first character to level cap and grinding crafting skills and crafting research.
So basically the whole first year of playing was just grind, with little time to enjoy the game properly.

I was having a discussion the other day and came to the same conclusions. It takes more than a year of preparation to play the game smoothly.

There is hope thanks to mods. If you make specific mules like me, you can use said mules with Bankmanager to pull and push items from your bank. Also, if you go the daily writs route like me, Lazy Writ crafter to expedite crafting. It saves you 90% more time.

[Katmorphous333]

Gotta agree with OP on paying DLCs. I bought all DLCs so far instead of subbing, with all the money I put in this game it would be fair to have access to the craftbag and the house double item slots. Dont care about the other bonuses to be honest, though having to be subbed to dye a crown store item that you actually spent money on is just ridiculous.

[TomCat86]

Цитата допису Lebaowski:

Having bought the game a couple of days ago, the extremely limited inventory space is very off-putting. I'm guessing ESO has a huge issue with player-retention, and this is most likely the main reason. After playing for 2 hours the inventory minigame started taking more time than actually playing the game unless I just don't craft at all, and from what I gather crafting is a huge part of this game.

I've spent all the gold I've gathered so far on bag/bank upgrades, yet there are loads of quests where it has me enter some dungeon where I can't even get halfway through without ending up with a full inventory, giving me the choice of either porting to a city and putting stuff in the already full bank to then run back to the same dungeon and basically starting over, or start deleting stuff which also feels like a complete waste of time. Why would I commit to a month of ESO+ when this is what meets me basically as soon as I start playing?

What do I keep? What do I delete? I don't know, the game didn't give me time to figure that out before thrusting me into this inventory management nightmare.

Lack of inventory space is the most common complaint and interestingly enough the most common reason why people stop playing. This is why they added daily logins, to get people to login more without still adressing the issue of intentional grieving players into eso+ subscribing.