Cant Play "The Tharn Speaks"

[basdubbi]

Please help. I cant play the MAIN Quest "The Tharn Speaks" I have to go to Norvulk Ruins and the questmarker leads me to a boat to golden coast. Problem: It says buy Dark brotherhood DLC
I dont have that DLC. Can i still play the main quest?

[Turtleswatter]

There is some conflict with the main quest and the Elsweyr chapter in that they use the same delve for some of the action. This may be affecting you.
Have a look under Grahtwood in your journal and if "The Demon Weapon" is active, abandon it. That's the beginning of the Elsweyr storyline and may be conflicting.

[basdubbi]

I dont have Elsweyr

[MightyJean]

Quest markers tend to be inaccurate when it comes to boats (I followed one once and I just ended up where I began following the marker...). That quest has nothing to do with the Gold Coast, Norvulk Ruins are in Stormhaven.

On a more general level, it's a delve from the second zone of your alliance (excluding starter areas), Norvulk Ruins in Stormhaven for DC, Wormroot Depths in Grahtwood for AD and Knife Ear Grotto in Deshaan for EP.

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by basdubbi:

I dont have Elsweyr

Yes, and that is what causes the conflict. The Demon Weapon is being triggered despite the fact that you don't have Elseweyr because of the duality of the location of the quests.

Whether you have Elseweyr or not is is still worth a few seconds to have a check as it is the simplest fix you'll see today if that's what's gone wrong.

[MightyJean]

The Demon Weapon has nothing to do with Elsweyr, it's a prologue quest that is free and doesn't require anything except the base game. While it clashes with The Tharn Speaks it's not the issue here. Quest marker is the issue, for some reason the pathing with boats isn't really good.

If there are further issues with the quest inside Norvulk Ruins (like Tharn not appearing) then yes The Demon Weapon will be to blame, if started.

[basdubbi]

I also dont have The Demon Weapon

[basdubbi]

Originally posted by MightyJean:

Quest markers tend to be inaccurate when it comes to boats (I followed one once and I just ended up where I began following the marker...). That quest has nothing to do with the Gold Coast, Norvulk Ruins are in Stormhaven.

On a more general level, it's a delve from the second zone of your alliance (excluding starter areas), Norvulk Ruins in Stormhaven for DC, Wormroot Depths in Grahtwood for AD and Knife Ear Grotto in Deshaan for EP.

so i have to swim to stormhaven?

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by basdubbi:

I also dont have The Demon Weapon

OK. This is the last moment of my life I'm going to waste on you.

The Demon Weapon is the start of the Elsweyr DLC. Although you don't have it, it will be dowloaded on your computer because that's the way ZOS does it. All the DLC is downloaded and unblocked if you buy it. That is why the download takes so long.

The Demon Weapon uses the same location as the first part of The Tharn Speaks which is part of the main quest.

The issue is that sometimes the game bugs and makes the Demon Weapon part of the quests available to you, even when you haven't bought Elseweyr.

When that happens it stops you continuing your main quest until you find it listed on your quest page and abandon it.

If you don't have it on your quest page then this is not what has happened and you can continue on your way.

If it is on your quest page then abandon it and you can carry on with your game.

QED

[basdubbi]

ok thanks

[MightyJean]

Well, no. You can't swim there but there's probably a boat to Wayrest somewhere, and you can go there by foot from Glenumbra, Rivenspire or Bangkorai. Glenumbra is your best bet since it's most likely where you went for the main quest already.

Originally posted by Turtleswatter:

The issue is that sometimes the game bugs and makes the Demon Weapon part of the quests available to you, even when you haven't bought Elseweyr.

Nope, The Demon Weapon isn't part of Elsweyr, like at all. It's a free prologue/teaser quest released before the chapter to hype people. Just like Of Knives and Shadows and a handful of others.
That's why you get it without owning the chapter.

[Turtleswatter]

Originally posted by MightyJean:

Well, no. You can't swim there but there's probably a boat to Wayrest somewhere, and you can go there by foot from Glenumbra, Rivenspire or Bangkorai. Glenumbra is your best bet since it's most likely where you went for the main quest already.

Originally posted by Turtleswatter:

The issue is that sometimes the game bugs and makes the Demon Weapon part of the quests available to you, even when you haven't bought Elseweyr.

Nope, The Demon Weapon isn't part of Elsweyr, like at all. It's a free prologue/teaser quest released before the chapter to hype people. Just like Of Knives and Shadows and a handful of others.

Sorry. You're right. But I googled it and this is the issue that a lot of people are having. It was the easiest way to explain it so I over simplified it.

[MightyJean]

By the way, UESP has a handy interactive map, Norvulk Ruins is here[esomap.uesp.net]

[basdubbi]

Thank you all. It didnt work no matter what i did. I just walked there. Thanks anyway