When PvP is not funny anymore

[Luxias_Caelum]

Hi there. Before i start writing i'd like to say that i'm not english, so i apologize if i mispell things or something.

Once that being said i'd like to talk about the current state of PvP, specially Battlegrounds.
I love PvP in this game, but nowadays it's just a huge pile of crap. There's no more variety of players or roles, i feel every battleground game is just the same with some minimal differences between obejctives.

First i want to talk about the zergs. Look, the main reason i play Battlegrounds over Cyrodiil is because i want to get rid of massive zergs spamming AoEs, but actually i don't see any difference. Some would say that BGs teams have only four players, but actually any formation with more than 2 players can be a potential zerg. In my own experience, the vast majority of bgs i go into are full of people sticking together and spamming their AoEs while running from one objective to other. I don't mind that in Chaosball, because sooner or later they die because of the damage of the ball, but in Deathmatch and Land grab it's just insufferable, and it's even worse when you realize that the game actually rewards them for playing like that. I think the game should reward you with less medals if there are more players of your group nearby, or at least they should activate some sort of "friendly fire" in PvP, to promote single target builds instead of promoting zerg play, spin to win and AoE spam. In fact, they don't even need to aim, so what's the point in working to make a good build with studied rotations when another group of players can just mash two buttons to get free kills?

Second, i'd like to talk about snipers. It's nearly impossible to find any battleground without them. I know, they are easy kills, roll-dodge towards them, gap closer or sneak behind them but is really annoying to make a good build, plan a strategy and carefully choose your objectives when a guy who doesn't even try to fight can achieve similar results, they just sit down and mash the "i win button". But as i said, they are incredibly weak, they are built like "glass cannons". What i can't stand is when they snipe your from the spawn point, that's simply cowardice. Gap closers don't work (you die if you touch other team's spawn point) if you have to fight one of those spawn snipers, but they CAN kill you without effort. That needs to be fixed as soon as possible.

And last, but not least the tanks. This has been bugging me for a long time because they are everywhere, and they seem even more and more each day. You know what type of players i'm talking about: inmortal tanks that just permablock through all attacks and then kill everyone with ungodly amounts of damage. Of course, i don't care about PvE, obviously people needs tanks in PvE, the stronger, the better. What i find questionable is when people run into that type of builds in PvP and they just stand without effort, taking the burst from all players and then healing to full health or smashing everyone. This just discourages people from playing PvP, i even see people avoiding fights against this type of players, because they know they are not going to win even if the full team engages in the fight. And there is more of them each day. Each time i get killed by a group of tanks i just refuse to fight, and only try to stay far, far away from them. When players avoid to fight other people the game is no longer competitive, and PvP is no longer PvP.

I know there are more issues, like the targeting system that gives a lot of advantage to pet builds, specially if they know how to stand behind their zoos all the time,making them virtual tanks as their pets take the damage, shield stackers and etcetera, but the previous ones are in my opinion the most important ones.

Some people may think "learn to play" or "git gud", and yes, PvP is about learning constantly, but i'm by no means a bad player. I'm not a gamemaster, of course, but most of the times i can score a pretty decent amount of kills and/or medals, and sometimes i'm the one with the most kills, or the second one. I always try to learn the playing style of my enemies to be able to outplay them, so please, i'd like you to share your thoughts and opinions, but remember to be polite, please.

Thanks for reading this, let me know what you think about this.

[Rikkore]

Literally get good.

[kreeper_green]

If you are a nightblade you deserve this.

[TheS1X]

Use rally and vigor both on nightblade and u kick ass 1 vs 1

[Rick The Punisher]

I stopped playing in cyrodill for the exact same reasons, it's exshausting for me to see people just spamming and killing while in a group when fighting alone they are weaker than a potato chips and almost die instantly . As for pvp i don't mind tank, i learned with times to not waste my ressources on them and to avoid them, i simply attack them when i see they are getting weak :DD as for snipers, i just do the best i can to catch and punish them for their sins ! :D

[Esteys]

i hope one day they will do a arena mode with only 1vs1 - 2vs2 - 3vs3, battleground and cyrodiil are fun in their own way but the game lack of a real competitive mode imo.

[Wolfstorm]

ESO PvP is cheaters galore, the cheaters dream.

There is no legitimacy to ESO PvP while there are cheaters running scripts in Cheatodiil, where they cast five abilities in less than one second.

Since ESO PvE can be improved, ZOS should do the same DE did to Warframe, and develop only PvE. If they did go in that direction, we would have the full province of Elsweyr in the expansion, not half of it.

[Requimatic]

Originally posted by Wolfstorm:

ESO PvP is cheaters galore, the cheaters dream.

There is no legitimacy to ESO PvP while there are cheaters running scripts in Cheatodiil, where they cast five abilities in less than one second.

Since ESO PvE can be improved, ZOS should do the same DE did to Warframe, and develop only PvE. If they did go in that direction, we would have the full province of Elsweyr in the expansion, not half of it.

Post actual video proof or quit spouting this nonsense on the forums.

[けるみっと]

Originally posted by Wolfstorm:

ESO PvP is cheaters galore, the cheaters dream.

There is no legitimacy to ESO PvP while there are cheaters running scripts in Cheatodiil, where they cast five abilities in less than one second.

Since ESO PvE can be improved, ZOS should do the same DE did to Warframe, and develop only PvE. If they did go in that direction, we would have the full province of Elsweyr in the expansion, not half of it.

I wonder if they ever try to solve cheat problem.

[けるみっと]

Originally posted by Requimatic:

Originally posted by Wolfstorm:

ESO PvP is cheaters galore, the cheaters dream.

There is no legitimacy to ESO PvP while there are cheaters running scripts in Cheatodiil, where they cast five abilities in less than one second.

Since ESO PvE can be improved, ZOS should do the same DE did to Warframe, and develop only PvE. If they did go in that direction, we would have the full province of Elsweyr in the expansion, not half of it.

Post actual video proof or quit spouting this nonsense on the forums.

He can't because it s forbidden. Steam support service call that "Naming and Shaming".

[Requimatic]

Originally posted by Why 1v9?(Noob Magnet):

Originally posted by Requimatic:

Post actual video proof or quit spouting this nonsense on the forums.

He can't because it s forbidden. Steam support service call that "Naming and Shaming".

They could easily edit out names.

All he and a couple other people here (you, seemingly) ever do is spout off about "wahh wahh cheating" when it's almost certainly a L2P issue.

[beluga25]

Hey, your English is a lot better than many of the native speakers here. Congrats, lol!

[けるみっと]

Originally posted by Requimatic:

Originally posted by Why 1v9?(Noob Magnet):

He can't because it s forbidden. Steam support service call that "Naming and Shaming".

They could easily edit out names.

All he and a couple other people here (you, seemingly) ever do is spout off about "wahh wahh cheating" when it's almost certainly a L2P issue.

Cheater detected ? lol . Dude i saw lots of great player in this game and i understand when someone cheating. You are talking like we say "omg cheater" every time someone kill us.

[Requimatic]

Originally posted by Why 1v9?(Noob Magnet):

Originally posted by Requimatic:

They could easily edit out names.

All he and a couple other people here (you, seemingly) ever do is spout off about "wahh wahh cheating" when it's almost certainly a L2P issue.

Cheater detected ? lol . Dude i saw lots of great player in this game and i understand when someone cheating. You are talking like we say "omg cheater" every time someone kill us.

Because that's basically what you do?

Every single time one of you claims someone is cheating, that's all you do.. claim.

None of you ever want to post any kind of proof, or even talk about things like how much latency you're experiencing to determine whether or not you're just lagging so heavily that by the time your client updates after you're attacked, you're suddenly dead.

If you have actual proof, post it. Otherwise, everyone here is tired of hearing the whining and will tell you the same thing: learn to play.

[Wolfstorm]

Devs are losing time and resources trying to "balance" the classes in the game. There is no point in doing that, when they could spend those resources to make more content, like complete the province of Elsweyr.

All this balancing nonsense comes from the PvP camp, which is riddled with cheaters and scripters. These cheaters think they are "elite", and buckled themselves into a sort of club, which accounts for less than 1% of the playerbase.

Do you know why BGs queues dont complete? Because nobody wants to play that trash, so there are not enough people to complete the team. The effort the devs put to make these PvP arenas, they could use to make a new adventurer zone (like Craglorn). The time they spend nerfing classes, they could spend creating new questlines. So many possibilites and they waste into "balancing" for the sake of the cheating clique, and use the insane numbers the cheaters provide as a base for it.

[けるみっと]

Originally posted by Requimatic:

Originally posted by Why 1v9?(Noob Magnet):

Cheater detected ? lol . Dude i saw lots of great player in this game and i understand when someone cheating. You are talking like we say "omg cheater" every time someone kill us.

Because that's basically what you do?

Every single time one of you claims someone is cheating, that's all you do.. claim.

None of you ever want to post any kind of proof, or even talk about things like how much latency you're experiencing to determine whether or not you're just lagging so heavily that by the time your client updates after you're attacked, you're suddenly dead.

If you have actual proof, post it. Otherwise, everyone here is tired of hearing the whining and will tell you the same thing: learn to play.

I m not claimng. I'm watching from a distance if i see something anormal and reporting them if their names doesnt have weird letters. Describing what kind of hack they use in report and it s not all about pvp. For example if someone running whole map in seconds or using jab on mount or taking zero damage from any enemy etc... Once someone gives me CC immunity buff with mutagen skill for 996 days so i just send a report, explain the stuation and quit. Next day that fixed.

I hope you understand now. (Oh i forgot farm/fishing bots btw )