DLC policy

[Hexatorium]

Alright so lemme get this straight. I bought the gold pack a while back for about 30-40 bucks. I play for a while, then stop shortly before morrowind. I come back today to find that the 30-40 bucks I spent was basically obsolete, because to get the 'full eso experience' I need to spend another hundred bucks or so on crowns for the DLC, then another 25 on Somerset? What the actual ♥♥♥♥.

[Psyringe]

I'm not sure I understand. You bought a pack containing 4 DLCs (Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Imperial City, Orsinium), Are you saying that you don't have access to those DLCs any more and the game wants you to buy them again?

[Hexatorium]

Publicado originalmente por Psyringe:

I'm not sure I understand. You bought a pack containing 4 DLCs (Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Imperial City, Orsinium), Are you saying that you don't have access to those DLCs any more and the game wants you to buy them again?

No I have access to them, but theres also like ten other DLC I have to buy seperatly?

[Hexatorium]

Would it be worth picking up the ESO plus membership?

[maxkidd]

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

Publicado originalmente por Psyringe:

I'm not sure I understand. You bought a pack containing 4 DLCs (Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Imperial City, Orsinium), Are you saying that you don't have access to those DLCs any more and the game wants you to buy them again?

No I have access to them, but theres also like ten other DLC I have to buy seperatly?

well there is morrowind,summerset,wolfhunter,bloodforge,dragonbones,scaler ,clockwork and hist

buying 4 dlc doesnt give you life access to a MMOs content- buying mists of pandara for WOW will not net me legion and battle for azeroth

MMOs need new content-content production needs $-consumer pay for new stuff

Edit-To trial the dlc sure the crowns you get can also be put towards a dlc or two for perma unlock

[Hexatorium]

Honestly I think what really pisses me off about all this is the fact that I bought a game thinking I'd have the full thing, only to find I gotta drop another $100+ dollars to have everything? This has to be one of the worst business models I've ever seen for an MMO.

[Psyringe]

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

No I have access to them, but theres also like ten other DLC I have to buy seperatly?

Well, if you did not buy them before, why would you expect to have them already?

Note that Morrowind is very expensive in the Crown Story, but is currently available for 10 bucks together with the base game. If you but it on Steam, you need to remove ESO from your Steam library first, otherwise it won't let you make the purchase.

An alternative to buying all DLCs, is to subscribe to ESO+. You'll get access for all DLCs for as long as you keep the subscription active.

If you want to "own" everything, you'll indeed have to buy them separately in the Crown Story. The DLCs aren't available anywhere else, and there is no "bundle" with a reduced price. DLCs _can_ get discounts in the crown store, Orsinium is currently (or just was) 75% off. Personally I would _not_ approach ESO with a goal of "owning everything"; because that will get prohibitively expensive.

[maxkidd]

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

Honestly I think what really pisses me off about all this is the fact that I bought a game thinking I'd have the full thing, only to find I gotta drop another $100+ dollars to have everything? This has to be one of the worst business models I've ever seen for an MMO.

WoW-EvE online-STWOR- all do the same thing some even worse MMOs cost money

[Hexatorium]

Publicado originalmente por Psyringe:

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

No I have access to them, but theres also like ten other DLC I have to buy seperatly?

Well, if you did not buy them before, why would you expect to have them already?

Note that Morrowind is very expensive in the Crown Story, but is currently available for 10 bucks together with the base game. If you but it on Steam, you need to remove ESO from your Steam library first, otherwise it won't let you make the purchase.

An alternative to buying all DLCs, is to subscribe to ESO+. You'll get access for all DLCs for as long as you keep the subscription active.

If you want to "own" everything, you'll indeed have to buy them separately in the Crown Story. The DLCs aren't available anywhere else, and there is no "bundle" with a reduced price. DLCs _can_ get discounts in the crown store, Orsinium is currently (or just was) 75% off. Personally I would _not_ approach ESO with a goal of "owning everything"; because that will get prohibitively expensive.

But if I remove the gold edition from my library, won't that result in my losing of the inital four DLC I already own? Also, any recommendations for what I should do here? I'm intending on playing the game a good amount, so am thinking about getting the 3 month eso plus membership, as it'll let me have access to the DLC and also give me enough crowns to pick up the two expansions. Is that a good idea?

[jm]

Alot of people buy ESO Plus then after 3-4 months they use all the crowns saved up to buy the dlc, then they cancel their ESO Plus.

It's cheaper to rebuy ESO on steam for morrowind, as morrowind with crowns I believe is $20, whereas steam has ESO on sale for $10.

But alot of the DLC just offers more quests and a few dungeons, only the guild DLC will offer skill lines. So with that said, not owning any of the DLC will hold you at a disadvantage to gear or abilities.

The expansions however are bigger in content, and Summerset has a skill line whereas Morrowind has a new class(Warden).
It's common to not own the DLC but to own the Expansions, like Psyringe said it'd be expensive to work towards owning everything.

[Psyringe]

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

Honestly I think what really pisses me off about all this is the fact that I bought a game thinking I'd have the full thing, only to find I gotta drop another $100+ dollars to have everything? This has to be one of the worst business models I've ever seen for an MMO.

To be fair, that was not a reasonable expectation. The Gold Edition didn't come with any promise that you would get tzhe following DLCs for free. Zenimax has always said that they plan to release new content until at least 2020.

If you assumed that something would be complete just because it has "Gold" in the title, you should drop that misconception very quickly. Games release "Gold Edition" and then release additional content all the time. Then they do another bundle and call it "Platinum Edition". There are even products that are expicitly labeled "Complete Edition"m but contain less than half of the game's DLCs (they were "complete" when they were released, but that was long ago). "Gold Edition" is just a label used in marketing, it doesn't mean anything specific.

[Hexatorium]

Publicado originalmente por Psyringe:

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

Honestly I think what really pisses me off about all this is the fact that I bought a game thinking I'd have the full thing, only to find I gotta drop another $100+ dollars to have everything? This has to be one of the worst business models I've ever seen for an MMO.

To be fair, that was not a reasonable expectation. The Gold Edition didn't come with any promise that you would get tzhe following DLCs for free. Zenimax has always said that they plan to release new content until at least 2020.

If you assumed that something would be complete just because it has "Gold" in the title, you should drop that misconception very quickly. Games release "Gold Edition" and then release additional content all the time. Then they do another bundle and call it "Platinum Edition". There are even products that are expicitly labeled "Complete Edition"m but contain less than half of the game's DLCs (they were "complete" when they were released, but that was long ago). "Gold Edition" is just a label used in marketing, it doesn't mean anything specific.

Ya fair enough. Just at the time of me buying gold edition it included all available dlc IIRC. I'm just shocked to find that now there's suddenly so much more stuff I need/want to buy.

[Hexatorium]

Publicado originalmente por jm:

Alot of people buy ESO Plus then after 3-4 months they use all the crowns saved up to buy the dlc, then they cancel their ESO Plus.

It's cheaper to rebuy ESO on steam for morrowind, as morrowind with crowns I believe is $20, whereas steam has ESO on sale for $10.

But alot of the DLC just offers more quests and a few dungeons, only the guild DLC will offer skill lines. So with that said, not owning any of the DLC will hold you at a disadvantage to gear or abilities.

The expansions however are bigger in content, and Summerset has a skill line whereas Morrowind has a new class(Warden).
It's common to not own the DLC but to own the Expansions, like Psyringe said it'd be expensive to work towards owning everything.

So would you reccommend I do that then? Buy the ESO+ membership for a while, then cancel and buy the two expansions? And what DLC should I ideally own? Currently I do have orsinium, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood and Imperial City. From waht I understand these are pretty important and expansive. Are there any others I should buy most definetly?

[Psyringe]

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

But if I remove the gold edition from my library, won't that result in my losing of the inital four DLC I already own?

No. Steam will "forget" that you own this DLCs, but what Steam thinks, does not matter. Steam just launches the game. The ESO launcher then checks your ESO account, where the Gold Edition DLCs will still be listed as owned. So you keep access to them.[/quote]

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

Also, any recommendations for what I should do here? I'm intending on playing the game a good amount, so am thinking about getting the 3 month eso plus membership, as it'll let me have access to the DLC and also give me enough crowns to pick up the two expansions. Is that a good idea?

Generally getting the subscription us a better deal than buying the DLCs outright. While you have the subscripton, you can try out all DLCs - and you also earn 1500 crowns per month you subscribe for, so you'll automatically get enugh crowns to keep some of the DLCs after it ends. You also get all the other perks of the subscription (unlimited crafting bag, double bank storage, small XP boost, etc.)

Buying crowns to get the DLCs outright would be slightly cheaper, but you'd miss out on all of the subscription perks. You also can't "try before you buy" unless you wait for a trial event.

Note that the subscription gives you access to all DLC, but not Summerset. That is considered a chapter, not a DLC, so you'd have to buy it separately. (Yes, it's tricky.)

[Hexatorium]

Publicado originalmente por Psyringe:

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

But if I remove the gold edition from my library, won't that result in my losing of the inital four DLC I already own?

No. Steam will "forget" that you own this DLCs, but what Steam thinks, does not matter. Steam just launches the game. The ESO launcher then checks your ESO account, where the Gold Edition DLCs will still be listed as owned. So you keep access to them.

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

Also, any recommendations for what I should do here? I'm intending on playing the game a good amount, so am thinking about getting the 3 month eso plus membership, as it'll let me have access to the DLC and also give me enough crowns to pick up the two expansions. Is that a good idea?

Generally getting the subscription us a better deal than buying the DLCs outright. While you have the subscripton, you can try out all DLCs - and you also earn 1500 crowns per month you subscribe for, so you'll automatically get enugh crowns to keep some of the DLCs after it ends. You also get all the other perks of the subscription (unlimited crafting bag, double bank storage, small XP boost, etc.)

Buying crowns to get the DLCs outright would be slightly cheaper, but you'd miss out on all of the subscription perks. You also can't "try before you buy" unless you wait for a trial event.

Note that the subscription gives you access to all DLC, but not Summerset. That is considered a chapter, not a DLC, so you'd have to buy it separately. (Yes, it's tricky.) [/quote]
Are you certain about me not losing those? I'm anxious about possibly wasting what money I've already put into this game. And also, if I buy the eso plus membership through their website, I can apparently get an inital amount of crowns on top of the monthly crowns? Am I reading that right?

[Psyringe]

Publicado originalmente por Hexatorium:

So would you reccommend I do that then? Buy the ESO+ membership for a while, then cancel and buy the two expansions? And what DLC should I ideally own? Currently I do have orsinium, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood and Imperial City. From waht I understand these are pretty important and expansive. Are there any others I should buy most definetly?

Clockwork City and the upcoming Murkmire are on the same scale. Morrowind and Summerset are much bigger. The other DLCs just add 2 dungeons each - nice to have, but easy to skip. The subscription will enable you to check out all of them except Summerset, so you can make an informed decision afterwards. You don't have to spend the crowns right away - I'd just save them until I know which DLCs I really want and which I can do without.