The Elder Scrolls Online

The Elder Scrolls Online

I've just hit CP 100 and still feel overwhelmingly underpowered
Back then, when I could only dream of becoming a champion, I saw these 100-810 CP dudes just run past me and kill everything in sight in a couple of seconds. I felt like a useless leech, who does nothing in dungeones, despite taking a place of a DD, nor able to kill a couple of mobs quickly and effectively. Now when I've finally become a champion and have 100 CP this feeling gets even stronger: I see people who are nearly my champion level, they still disintegrate everything, rushing one corpse to another and wiping out floors in a matter of seconds, while for me even a small group of regular, not dungeon enemies is already a challenge, dealing with which takes me almost a minute — if only I don't die in the process. I spend several seconds to kill a lone enemy, somewhere between 5 and 10.
On one hand, I keep having a feeling that there is a problem with my build and it just sucks: when I just began my adventure, a friend of mine advised to try out a stam dual-wield DK. I follow the guide (mostly), but my perfomance is far below the one that the guide-maker shows.
On the other hand, there's a feeling that it's me who sucks. And given enough time and CPs, or after I've made some changes, this build will shine.
So, to make it easier:
- my survivability sucks, I take pains to survive groups of enemies despite effectively avoiding the damage, and run out of stamina;
- which is the second problem — it leeks away too quickly;
- my damage output is just meh.
So I want to see some advice.
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Wolfstorm Dec 9, 2018 @ 3:49pm 
1 in 4 players are CE users.
Soul Of Arseid Dec 9, 2018 @ 5:17pm 
try looking at builds from alcast
Sightless17 Dec 9, 2018 @ 6:55pm 
Until you have full 160 gear, you will most likely feel very weak as the higher level you are the less stat boosts you get.
Zornvel Dec 9, 2018 @ 11:30pm 
The gear is always a point till you were not max gear CP, because the aromor/ damage is dowgraded if they were below your level/CP. ALso having a monser sets changes everything.
Next points were the sets, sets make player very powefull. Then the skill, the passive makes you really strong, not only from your class/weapon but also from guild skill (see warrior guild for stamina users).
Next point buffs from food/drinks + buffs from the skills.
Then how fast can you use your skills and how long (sustainability of your chosen skills) can you fight. The rotation of you skills, are you used to them (best train on a dummy target)
The most of the guides were for late game, when your allready have 600+ CP.
Originally posted by Dro-m’Athra:
try looking at builds from alcast
That's his build I'm using, IRC.


Originally posted by Zornvel:
The gear is always a point till you were not max gear CP, because the aromor/ damage is dowgraded if they were below your level/CP. ALso having a monser sets changes everything.
Next points were the sets, sets make player very powefull. Then the skill, the passive makes you really strong, not only from your class/weapon but also from guild skill (see warrior guild for stamina users).
Next point buffs from food/drinks + buffs from the skills.
Then how fast can you use your skills and how long (sustainability of your chosen skills) can you fight. The rotation of you skills, are you used to them (best train on a dummy target)
The most of the guides were for late game, when your allready have 600+ CP.
I try to keep all my gear's level colse to the character's, but it's just a mixture of different set parts.
Dubsky Dec 10, 2018 @ 3:55am 
1. Get to CP 160 (Gear max. Level is capped at 160)
2. Get Sets that actually work together (Lookout for Guides - Fengrush/Alcast etc.)
3. Practice and optimize your rotation.

That's what you should do for your Damage output. Survivability basically comes with you, learning your rotation better.

If you need help farming CPs add me :)
Dubsky Dec 10, 2018 @ 3:59am 
Originally posted by Wolfstorm:
1 in 4 players are CE users.
That's your opinion from your sight cuz you get smashed in PvP if i remember correctly?
There are cheaters, and it will not change because there always will be a way, especially when it comes to detecting scripts etc.

"1 out of 4" is just an extreme exaggeration without any foundation. People tend to call out better players so damn fast, it's crazy.
Zyrconia Dec 10, 2018 @ 4:00am 
Well I'm not max level yet and have no CP, but for a while I had this problem: after hitting 20, every level I felt weaker and weaker. It is not OK to feel weaker at level 30 than at level 5 and is poor design imho.

But back to the point: I kind of fixed that.

With sustain. Sustain is apparently king it this game. I hugely upgraded my resource pool and also my resource gain and each encounter I spam my abilities like a madman. Once you have enough sustain, you can chain pull 4-5 groups and annihilate them using all your abilities.

Before doing my sustain upgrade, I could kill a mob with 60-80% of my resources if I wanted him dead ASAP. Not it is 15-20%. I have so many resources that I barely do any more light or heavy attacks.
Dubsky Dec 10, 2018 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by Zyrconia:
Well I'm not max level yet and have no CP, but for a while I had this problem: after hitting 20, every level I felt weaker and weaker. It is not OK to feel weaker at level 30 than at level 5 and is poor design imho.

You felt weaker, because you really became weaker.

Until hitting Max. Level, your Stats will be boosted. And this boost becomes weaker with your level getting higher / gear etc.
Zyrconia Dec 10, 2018 @ 4:18am 
Originally posted by D҉ub҉s҉k҉y҉ ﹝❤﹞:
Originally posted by Zyrconia:
Well I'm not max level yet and have no CP, but for a while I had this problem: after hitting 20, every level I felt weaker and weaker. It is not OK to feel weaker at level 30 than at level 5 and is poor design imho.

You felt weaker, because you really became weaker.

Until hitting Max. Level, your Stats will be boosted. And this boost becomes weaker with your level getting higher / gear etc.
And I counteracted it by getting tons of sustain, because you can't really increase your direct damage. But if you have enough magicka, you can spam abilities.
Dubsky Dec 10, 2018 @ 4:28am 
Originally posted by Zyrconia:
And I counteracted it by getting tons of sustain, because you can't really increase your direct damage. But if you have enough magicka, you can spam abilities.
Well that's one way.
You could just get sets on your current level
watchdog79 Dec 10, 2018 @ 5:38am 
Originally posted by Zyrconia:
Originally posted by D҉ub҉s҉k҉y҉ ﹝❤﹞:

You felt weaker, because you really became weaker.

Until hitting Max. Level, your Stats will be boosted. And this boost becomes weaker with your level getting higher / gear etc.
And I counteracted it by getting tons of sustain, because you can't really increase your direct damage. But if you have enough magicka, you can spam abilities.

Well, you actually can increase your direct damage, even if you don't have CP bonuses that do that yet.

Get two full (5/5) gear sets that boost your damage and that boost your main atribute (Magicka or Stamina). Enchant the gear with runes that boost your damage or your main atribute.

Furtermore, only spend your atribute points in one atribute (Magicka, Stamina) and level your character up as DD, it will make your life much easier.

What I do for my alts is crafting a full armour and weapon + necklace loadout for every 10 levels for them, with all weapons and armour pieces being of the blue quality and having the Training trait. This allows me to wear two full 5 pieces sets and two rings (either a two pieces set or some dropped set with some bonus for 2´/5 items that I like). Using an XP scroll then makes me swallow levels like crazy.

Having CP from my main helps a lot too, but that is not an option for player on their first character, naturally.

I originally went for maximum sustain for my Stamina DD, however, I was advised by guildies to rather boost my maximum Stamina and damage, because I won't need so much sustain if everything dies sooner. It works for me.
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