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Destruction Staff ?? How best to increase damage? Which rod to equip as best? What is the best damage?
Actually, I'm hanging on frost damage because I only want to use Frost Wall.
Here is my current skill tree:
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/de/teilen/29041/

The question is, what harm does a Frost Staff do? Since one uses Magicka yes that could speak for magic damage, or at least Frost damage?
I mean the basic damage that is the first value for every weapon?

What if I enchant a Fire Staff with frost damage, is there a difference to Frost Staff with frost damage?

Is general elemental damage (flame, frost or lightning) preferable to the other? (At the moment only PvE)

And what about the others like for ex. poison or disease ?
Last edited by ovd_masterkey; Jan 28, 2019 @ 1:52am
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Brownstone Jan 25, 2019 @ 4:29pm 
Take a look at the Destruction Staff tree passives and you'll see that every staff type has a different bonus.
Beeze Jan 25, 2019 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:
Actually, I'm hanging on Frost damage because I only want to use Frost Wall.
Here is my current skill tree:
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/de/teilen/29041/

The question is, what harm does a Frost Staff do? Since one uses Magicka yes that could speak for magic damage, or at least Frost damage?
I mean the basic damage that is the first value for every weapon?

What if I enchant a Flaming Staff with Frost damage, is there a difference to Frost Staff with Frost damage?

Is general elemental damage (flame, frost or lightning) preferable to the other? (At the moment only PvE)

And what about the others like z.b. Poison or disease ?



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https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Spider+Cultist+Cowl+Set

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Winterborn+Set

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Ysgramor's+Birthright+Set
Beeze Jan 25, 2019 @ 4:45pm 
As for Poison and Disease - Thaumaturge helps with Poison, Disease and Magic Damage too...

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Thaumaturge
Drake Jan 26, 2019 @ 2:44am 
Damage type is mostly just damage type (to check against armor), there are status effects related to elements (fire applies a dot, lightning can set off balance, frost can chill, poison applies a poison dot, desease reduces healing).

Now, about the weapon itself, that's a different story. Destruction staff skills and passives change depending on which element you're using. Frost staff is basically a tank weapon, it's the magical counterpart of the weapon and shield skill line. The heavy attack taunts, the block is enhanced and gives you a magic shield and you get CC from the frost element.
If you're not a tank, I would advise against using a frost staff in groups, because since you're taunting on heavy attacks (and you can't turn it off unless you remove the passives, but then you're losing all the relevant bonuses from the skill line), you're messing up the work of the actual tank in your team.

Fire staff is usually for single target dps and lightning staff is for aoe dps and offencive support. That's what you focus on.

Also looking at your build, you're starting to play so nothing really matters at that stage, but when you'll hit high level there is something you need to know about building in eso. The game doesn't like hybrids, not one bit. You should either focus on magicka and spells or in stamina and stamina weapons. Doing but will cut your dps by a lot, more than half in worst cases. By just focusing on one type you'll do a lot more damage.

So staff + bow, not a good idea. Dps mages go fire + lightning staff. Healers do restoration + lightning staves and magic tanks go frost staff + sword and shield (just for the shield self buffs, you dont really do damage as a tank).

It goes also for armors. Armor passives give you dps bonus for each role. Light armor is for mages, medium armor is for stamina and heavy armor is for tanking and pvp.

So by just putting all your points into magicka, using 2 staves and a light armor, with the passives you'll get, you'll be way more efficient than going magicka + stamina, medium armor and staff+bow.

in case you're wondering why, there are 2 rules in eso that kill hybrids : max magicka and max stamina give you bonus damage to skills that cost those resources. So if you have 40K stamine you'll do more damage with a stamina ability, and if you have 40K magicka you'll do more damage with a magicka ability. If you have 20K stamina and 20K magicka, you'll doless damage with all your skills.
Second, heavy attacks restore resources depending on the weapon. Staves restore magicka, and bows/melee weapons restore stamina. So using a staff with a magicka build helps you sustain your build as well as getting more damage.
bee cearful with frost unless you wanna tanking:) it gives nice damage shield but it rely noth worth it i could say best damage dealer propobly will be fire like natural logik of all mmos but im not sure i was using them all so i kinda think that a fire staff is more like if you fight one target but now i trying to make a nice aoe damage dealer mage wich actualy mages should be like and i think ill gona try go with lightning since it has that pasive to hit multiple targets with heavy attack
Dubsky Jan 26, 2019 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by JADERNIJ|ALKASHI:
bee cearful with frost unless you wanna tanking:) it gives nice damage shield but it rely noth worth it i could say best damage dealer propobly will be fire like natural logik of all mmos but im not sure i was using them all so i kinda think that a fire staff is more like if you fight one target but now i trying to make a nice aoe damage dealer mage wich actualy mages should be like and i think ill gona try go with lightning since it has that pasive to hit multiple targets with heavy attack
Lightning as a good option for Sorcs because they have increased Lightning Damage.
Heavy attacks are stupid, as they don't make any damage.
Originally posted by Dubsky:
Originally posted by JADERNIJ|ALKASHI:
bee cearful with frost unless you wanna tanking:) it gives nice damage shield but it rely noth worth it i could say best damage dealer propobly will be fire like natural logik of all mmos but im not sure i was using them all so i kinda think that a fire staff is more like if you fight one target but now i trying to make a nice aoe damage dealer mage wich actualy mages should be like and i think ill gona try go with lightning since it has that pasive to hit multiple targets with heavy attack
Lightning as a good option for Sorcs because they have increased Lightning Damage.
Heavy attacks are stupid, as they don't make any damage.
with talks like this i wonder do you even play eso ??? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ try to play and then talk pro of nthing hahhahhahaa

Wolfstorm Jan 26, 2019 @ 9:45am 
Frost staffs are good for tanking. If you put one point in the Tri-Focus passive, you can taunt enemies with a frost staff heavy attack.

Lightning staffs are good for recharging your magicka. Their heavy attack connects with the enemy, which is the better option for a quick magicka recharge.

Flame staffs are more for damage against single targets. I think their heavy attack do a little more damage than the other too, but Im not sure about it.
Last edited by Wolfstorm; Jan 26, 2019 @ 9:53am
Originally posted by Wolfstorm:
Frost staffs are good for tanking. If you put one point in the Tri-Focus passive, you can taunt enemies with a frost staff heavy attack.

Lightning staffs are good for recharging your magicka. Their heavy attack connects with the enemy, which is the better option for a quick magicka recharge.

Flame staffs are more for damage against single targets. I think their heavy attack do a little more damage than the other too, but Im not sure about it.
lol just what i did say but it its ok i gues more readable :)
Dubsky Jan 26, 2019 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by JADERNIJ|ALKASHI:
Originally posted by Dubsky:
Lightning as a good option for Sorcs because they have increased Lightning Damage.
Heavy attacks are stupid, as they don't make any damage.
with talks like this i wonder do you even play eso ??? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ try to play and then talk pro of nthing hahhahhahaa
I have 1200 hours in ESO.

5 Maxed out Chars with good to perfect Gear -> PvE and PvP

Completed multiple Veteran HM Trials and every Vet. Dungeon, with exceptions on some DLC Dungeons.

I just told you what is common knowledge. And everything of it was correct.
You have a big mouth for someone who is running a Healer with Heavy Armor.

Have you even reached CP levels?
Why do you think that you have any knowledge about ESO when you never played actual content. You didn't even reached mid-game content and act like you're a God.

I can proof everything i said with facts, compared to you.

We can duel and compare each other in every way you would like to. You'll lose.
Originally posted by Dubsky:
Originally posted by JADERNIJ|ALKASHI:
with talks like this i wonder do you even play eso ??? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ try to play and then talk pro of nthing hahhahhahaa
I have 1200 hours in ESO.

5 Maxed out Chars with good to perfect Gear -> PvE and PvP

Completed multiple Veteran HM Trials and every Vet. Dungeon, with exceptions on some DLC Dungeons.

I just told you what is common knowledge. And everything of it was correct.
You have a big mouth for someone who is running a Healer with Heavy Armor.

Have you even reached CP levels?
Why do you think that you have any knowledge about ESO when you never played actual content. You didn't even reached mid-game content and act like you're a God.

I can proof everything i said with facts, compared to you.

We can duel and compare each other in every way you would like to. You'll lose.
nothin of what you tell is overcoming my expirience ) wellcome to relity how ever if i do not know and your advice is reasonable i may list it out how ever you cant beat my expirience with yours cuz no one gives a ♥♥♥♥ to yours no disrespect its world man its way it is

lol i just noticed you talk about cp ye ye i did and its more silly then i tought oh reached chapmp then talk are your sireous ? better find your way before thats my advice and dont get confused cuz off ways bettter go full where you are trust me cp line is ♥♥♥♥ its not packed well
Last edited by Pterolycus_Aigars1983; Jan 26, 2019 @ 10:26am
Dubsky Jan 26, 2019 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by JADERNIJ|ALKASHI:
nothin of what you tell is overcoming my expirience ) wellcome to relity how ever if i do not know and your advice is reasonable i may list it out how ever you cant beat my expirience with yours cuz no one gives a ♥♥♥♥ to yours no disrespect its world man its way it is
And you experience is what? 40 hours in ESO?
That's not experience.

How can you give such advice and ignore comments when you haven't even reach mid-game content. It doesn't makie any sense to me. You never played a good char with proper gear and skills in Dungeons or Trials. So why do you talk like you know how it works?

> Sorcs are good with Lightining. <- What's wrong with it? That's how it is
> Heavy attacks don't make any damage. <- It's used to get Magicka back. Dealing damage with it is a dumb idea, especially in terms of AoE damage. GL in Dungeons lmao.
Last edited by Dubsky; Jan 26, 2019 @ 10:28am
Originally posted by Dubsky:
Originally posted by JADERNIJ|ALKASHI:
nothin of what you tell is overcoming my expirience ) wellcome to relity how ever if i do not know and your advice is reasonable i may list it out how ever you cant beat my expirience with yours cuz no one gives a ♥♥♥♥ to yours no disrespect its world man its way it is
And you experience is what? 40 hours in ESO?
That's not experience.

How can you give such advice and ignore comments when you haven't even reach mid-game content. It doesn't makie any sense to me. You never played a good char with proper gear and skills in Dungeons or Trials. So why do you talk like you know how it works?

> Sorcs are good with Lightining. <- What's wrong with it? That's how it is
> Heavy attacks don't make any damage. <- It's used to get Magicka back. Dealing damage with it is a dumb idea, especially in terms of AoE damage. GL in Dungeons lmao.
lol iinvited you to steam friends to tel you lame ♥♥♥♥♥♥ wake up i can leave eso laucher open 24/7 does it says someting about my exp of game if you so lame then we have nothing to talk
ovd_masterkey Jan 27, 2019 @ 6:46am 
Thanks to all of you, for your good advice.

Originally posted by Sajah:
Damage type is mostly just damage ...So staff + bow, not a good idea.... using a staff with a magicka build helps you sustain your build as well as getting more damage.

Originally posted by JADERNIJ|ALKASHI:
bee cearful with frost unless you wanna tanking:)...... so i kinda think that a fire staff is more like if you fight one target ....aoe damage dealer mage ...with lightning

Originally posted by Wolfstorm:
Frost staffs are good for tanking. If you put one point in the Tri-Focus passive, you can taunt enemies with a frost staff heavy attack.

Lightning staffs are good for recharging your magicka. Their heavy attack connects with the enemy, which is the better option for a quick magicka recharge.

Flame staffs are more for damage against single targets. I think their heavy attack do a little more damage than the other too, but Im not sure about it.


Originally posted by Dubsky:

> Sorcs are good with Lightining.
> Heavy attacks don't make any damage. <- It's used to get Magicka back. Dealing damage with it is a dumb idea, especially in terms of AoE damage. GL in Dungeons lmao.


I will give all points to magicka! I have changed to Lightning Staff as second weapon, at the moment playing more/only main quest I can not give up the BOW (I love the BOW) but I think later I will change to Fire Staff as primary weapon.
I took more heavy armor than before middle because of magicka and stamina effects and I like the active ability more.

Here is my new skill tree:
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/de/teilen/29071/
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