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What am I doing wrong? Combat/Dps
Hi there! I hate to come crying to the forums, but I'm a bit frustrated and need to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I'm a lvl 104 champion, Woodelf/Bosmer Nightblade. Using dual wield weapons, and the skills from assasination, shadow and siphoning classes. (Mostly assasination.)

I've got to where I am by just exploring the world mindlessly. I'm just getting back in to the game after a break and have been watching YouTube vids o learn how to do better.

My problem is that my DPS is horrible, and I'm not sure that it should be? I've been asking around a bit, and someone replied (in regards to my level and if I should be able to be stronger) "Yeah, that should be enough. Probably just an equipment thing."

So I've tried different equipment. Tried some with as many magicka enhancing traits as possible (+ my magicka is at 50 attribute points) and it didn't work. I saw in a vid that the more attributes/the higher number in magicka, the more damage my magicka-based skills should do, but I'm still the weakest thing ever. I've also tried using the best weapons I could find, one that absorbs health and one that deals schock damage.

I've seen plenty of players on a lower level than me dealing a lot more damage, so that's why I'm thinking that I'm doing something wrong? I just don't know what.

I also saw in several vids that doing dungeons is the best way to gain XP. So now I'm trying to joun in the queue for normal dongeons. But oh boy, do I make a mess some times. Being a Dps with no actual dps, I'm just in the way. So if dungeons are the best way to gain xp and thereby increasing my level and dps, how's that suppposed to work if I'm too weak to do dungeons in the first place?

I'm sorry if I seam like to noobiest noob there ever was. I'm just a tad meh because I've been trying to do what the vids say, and I don't see any improvement. *sigh*

Any advice?
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Booger; 30. Okt. 2018 um 5:45
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Booger 30. Okt. 2018 um 8:08 
Just opened the game and checked the nightblade cass skilss. They're def meant for dual wield weapons, and magicka based. So it can't be true that I can't use two weapons and be magicka based?
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Yes you can use both Magicka and Stamina, but you will do more damage if you focus on one over the other. After the first 4 levels, skills can be "Morphed" - and the Morph often allows you to choose between Stam or Mag.
The real reason to choose Stam for Weapon based is that Heavy Attacks with Weapons will regenrate your stamina pool, and Heavy attacks with Staves will regen your Magicka pool
"Sustaining" is very important in longer fights, therefore being able to regen you pool becomes important
Do not lose faith - have fun - and dont trust the "recommended" morph :))
Drake 30. Okt. 2018 um 8:27 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von sandranosaur:
Just opened the game and checked the nightblade cass skilss. They're def meant for dual wield weapons, and magicka based. So it can't be true that I can't use two weapons and be magicka based?

They don't.

First let's get some facts. All basic class abilities are magicka based (this is why all stamina build only use 2 or 3 class skills in builds, and pick weapon and guild skills). They are all spells, for every class (classes in eso are really just regular TES magic school restrictions, they don't define you character more than that, it's just 3 skill lines from 20).
A stamina char can't use that for damage for 2 reasons. Weapon damage only enhance physical damage, and max stamina give bonus damage to stamina skills only.

So it's not about what it looks like, It's about numbers. If you want to do damage with dual wield skills you need to max stamina and weapon damage, 2 stats that don't work with spells.

This is why class skills have a stamina conversion morph, so that you can use them with a stamina char. Otherwise you'll do no damage with them. If you want to use assination skills in a stamina build with daggers, you need to convert them (and all of the assassin theme skills do, for that purpose).

At one point, you could do stuff like using 2 swords (and only swords) to get the damage bonus from dual wielding with a magicka build but as of summerset, destruction staff passives outclass it. So wielding a staff is always better for magicka builds, even if it looks like you char is popping magic daggers from thin air, numbers are numbers.

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im stam dual wield build points on stam duel wield crafted daggers most of my skills are focused on duels with one being magika crafted medium armour set for extra stam and my dps is beutiful 281 champion level bloodthirst is a great abilty it will keep u alive in tough situations
Zuletzt bearbeitet von DanielUK; 30. Okt. 2018 um 8:30
Sajah is correct - but Sandranosaur, you are also correct - you "can" be Both magicka and Stamina, but for higher DPS, you shouldn't.
Arming Dual wield Weapons is necessary for some of the NB Class skills, but dual wield Weapons do Stamina-based damage, so, as you level up - if you Split between Magicka and Stamina abilities, you will have to increase Both Magicka and Stamina Pools (jack of all trades). And Heavy attacks with Weapons only restores Stamina - so in a long fight, you will find yourself low on Magicka often with no way to recover. (potions have a very long reset time - 45 sec)
So, also, as Sajah points out, more Stamina means more weapon damage, so if you are splitting your attribute points between Stam and Magicka, then your weapon damage numbers will suffer when compared to someone who specializes in Stamina Skills only.
Damage per Second (DPS) is very much a numbers game, but Fortunately for us there are folks on line like AlcastHQ and DeltiasGaming that run all these numbers for us and provide recommended peak builds - but these are guidelines since individual play varies
The other tidbit is layering many "Damage over Time" effects at once - this can include AoEs, but also includes single target attacks that do damage or reduce defenses for a period of time. Thus, at any givien time, your opponent may be damaged from as many as 5 or 6 different attacks.
Booger 30. Okt. 2018 um 9:43 
I think you've misunderstood me. I've specifically stated that I have ONLY put my attribute points in to magicka to increase the damage of my skills in assasination, shadow and siphon. I have 50 points in magicka (and a few extra to add as of now) and all my gear increase my max magicka and magicka recovery. And still my DPS is terrible.

But I think that I can sense my error by now. Maybe I SHOULD choose one of the weapon categories, and not just use my class skills. I just thought that they were as good as any, and that I could build up the damage dealt by them by increasing my mag. I also thought that I HAD to wield two wespons to use the assasination skills, lol. ^^''
Drake 30. Okt. 2018 um 10:10 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von sandranosaur:
I think you've misunderstood me. I've specifically stated that I have ONLY put my attribute points in to magicka to increase the damage of my skills in assasination, shadow and siphon. I have 50 points in magicka (and a few extra to add as of now) and all my gear increase my max magicka and magicka recovery. And still my DPS is terrible.

But I think that I can sense my error by now. Maybe I SHOULD choose one of the weapon categories, and not just use my class skills. I just thought that they were as good as any, and that I could build up the damage dealt by them by increasing my mag. I also thought that I HAD to wield two wespons to use the assasination skills, lol. ^^''

Class skills are not weapon dependant. Only weapon skills are weapon dependant.
Then, yeah now I understand, you were using all skills of one single line.

Then no, that not a good tactic. Class is important, but the line of your main weapon needs to be there. If you're a spellcaster, you need the destruction line, it's half the damage.
Even if you were using dual wield swords with magicka abilities you would need to use the passivesto get more damage. The weapon line does that much.

You also need to up you guild skills, everything is important.
omg - yes - sorry i missed that you had 50 attribute points in magicka.
another thing that Sajah justy alluded to is that you should be making "Light Attacks" (LA) with your chosen Weapon or Staff *in between* each skill use; this will dramatically improve your damage output.
So, instead of:
Skill 1 - Skill 2 - Skill 3 - Skill 1,
your "rotation" should be more like:
Skill 1 - LA - Skill 2 - LA - Skill 3 - LA - Skill 1
The "Skills" take time to "fire", but Most of that time is Animation - you can cancel the animation by using a Light Attack in between your Skills (you dont have to wait for the Animation to stop)
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