The Elder Scrolls Online

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MAD MAX V1 スタンド 2019년 4월 20일 오후 12시 48분
FFXIV vs ESO
which would you say is best for long run?
첫 게시자: Lust:
Personally FF14>ESO.

While it's super easy to spend hundreds of hours on both (guilty) you just get better quality content from FF14 plus their cash shop doesn't have random loot boxes, houses that do nothing that cost 100$ and endless button mashing combat.

While opinions are entirely subjective FF14 is a lot easier on my hands. I can play it for hours at a time and not feel the need to rest for a bit. ESO on the other hand is just so button mashy that after an hour or two I have to take a break.

Early game the combat does seem slow but the reason for that is so you actually learn your skills, what they do and when you should be using them.
That all is just a build up for the late game fights. Some of the bosses are like wicked DDR stuff with movement and dodging and if you don't get outta the way you die. It actually encourages you to pay attention while playing because the hard mechanics are in the fights not necessarily each job's playstyle.

The current end game fights are actually so complicated I can't get a clear on any of them (savages/ex trials etc). Although I'm anti-social so I don't have a static or FC that runs that stuff.

If you've fallen asleep playing you obviously haven't gotten to that point because it would be impossible to stand still in any end game content without tanking the floor.

Just look at this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHxulZJ3i2g

While not necessarily hard it's a lot of stuff to pay attention to for my old ass and one or two deaths during those mechanics will totally wipe you. You actually need a competent team to clear content while in ESO the majority of button mashing will get you through in most stuff.

Again entirely subjective but I don't find the majority of content in ESO that hard and I hate their monetization practices. Face it every single mount is a re-skin of the base 5 or 6 ones and there is like 2000$ worth of re-skins to collect.
Some of the outfits are nice but the vast majority of their original colours are hideous forcing you to either waste crowns on those basic dye swatches or buy a sub to unlock the outfit dyeing. THEN even after you do all that you're tied to account achievement dyes so until you have done most of the game content you won't have access to a lot of the actual good colours.

Constantly feel pressured when logging into ESO to buy crowns for the latest shiny that'll just sit in my collections but never once have I ever felt pressured to buy and Mogstation items in FF14 because they don't force these "flash sales" with fake rarity to encourage easily swayed people to buy it or wait a year (me). I mean you should see my in game ♥♥♥♥ with the tons of outfits and crap I've bought and never use.

Anyways sorry for being long winded haha don't @ me.

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mysteryman115 2022년 7월 12일 오후 11시 45분 
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Dewit 2022년 7월 13일 오전 5시 08분 
Katzh님이 먼저 게시:
final fantasy require sub to play.
eso doesn't.
so basically, FFXIV has better quality content than this game does
Hayley 2022년 7월 13일 오전 5시 20분 
Captain_Calypso님이 먼저 게시:
Katzh님이 먼저 게시:
final fantasy require sub to play.
eso doesn't.
so basically, FFXIV has better quality content than this game does

Not necessarily.
Thorncrypt 2022년 7월 13일 오전 5시 27분 
just play both games. both FF14 and ESO have their strengths. this way you can also take breaks from one game while enjoying the other and vice versa. that's what I do, and it's worked out for me.
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Thomas D. 2022년 7월 13일 오전 5시 28분 
Unknownman115님이 먼저 게시:
where is ESO's version of these btw? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obvJdh6i6Hs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuCNk9tnLg4
You mean something Like this (took me 5 sec of searching):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0tYR_K8ckc

Or this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z84lEZ3NGfI

Or this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_xYVhNDj4

Also how does a fan made anime opening even affect the game by itself? It never did for me and I even didn't care of such stuff be existing, even they look pretty cool.

Also they won't fit a big part of the audience of ESO: mature players (even the amount of anime liking mature players increases).

But there is one truth in your post: If arguments / comparisons get to such a stupid level like this there is literally no reasonable argument left anymore...
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Hela 2022년 7월 13일 오전 6시 21분 
In Elder Scrolls Online is every character fully VOICED and in GERMAN TOO, that alone is awesome.
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Katzh 2022년 7월 13일 오전 6시 52분 
Captain_Calypso님이 먼저 게시:
Katzh님이 먼저 게시:
final fantasy require sub to play.
eso doesn't.
so basically, FFXIV has better quality content than this game does

if the more money you have to put in a game to play makes it better just go play Diablo immortal dude, you'll like it.
Dewit 2022년 7월 13일 오전 9시 14분 
Katzh님이 먼저 게시:
Captain_Calypso님이 먼저 게시:
so basically, FFXIV has better quality content than this game does

if the more money you have to put in a game to play makes it better just go play Diablo immortal dude, you'll like it.
I mean, if you can't afford $15 a month, then just say that. Still doesn't change that FFXIV is an overall better game. PVP is the only thing ESO does better than FFXIV. Doesn't mean that ESO is a bad game, FFXIV is just better.
DZP 2022년 7월 13일 오전 9시 34분 
ESO, why? The world feels more alive. You have a ton of other activities besides dungeons. Exploring is rewarding.
In FF14 story is the best side, but when you finish the story, there is nothing to do except roulettes, aka dungeons or raids. FF14 world feels so empty. You will never revisit some older zones because there is nothing to do.
Lowbei 2022년 7월 13일 오전 10시 04분 
ESO

1. ff is boring af
2. ff is more grindy because its a jrpg
3. the art style is cringe af with people wearing 3 belts and having anime hair.
4. i could easily explain to another person that I played a game called “Elder Scrolls Online, ya know, like Skyrim but with more people,” whereas it would be embarrassing trying to explain that I play a game called “Final Fantasy Fourteen.”
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mysteryman115 2022년 7월 13일 오전 10시 31분 
Thomas D.님이 먼저 게시:
Unknownman115님이 먼저 게시:
where is ESO's version of these btw? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obvJdh6i6Hs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuCNk9tnLg4
You mean something Like this (took me 5 sec of searching):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0tYR_K8ckc

Or this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z84lEZ3NGfI

Or this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_xYVhNDj4

Also how does a fan made anime opening even affect the game by itself? It never did for me and I even didn't care of such stuff be existing, even they look pretty cool.

Also they won't fit a big part of the audience of ESO: mature players (even the amount of anime liking mature players increases).

But there is one truth in your post: If arguments / comparisons get to such a stupid level like this there is literally no reasonable argument left anymore...
Well, if the community is making anime openings of their said favorite game/MMO's (in this case, FFXIV and ESO), its a sign the community is rather healthy.

So both games are likely to be around for at least another good 5-10 years, both games have their strengths and weaknesses, although if you have to argue "you have to pay a sub to play" while paying for ESO+ crafting bag, kinda kills your argument Imo.

So I agree, this argument thread should cease to exist, surely someone told the moderators by now to pretty please kill a dead thread that isn't exactly productive.....
lilac 2022년 7월 18일 오전 1시 26분 
DZP님이 먼저 게시:
ESO, why? The world feels more alive. You have a ton of other activities besides dungeons. Exploring is rewarding.
In FF14 story is the best side, but when you finish the story, there is nothing to do except roulettes, aka dungeons or raids. FF14 world feels so empty. You will never revisit some older zones because there is nothing to do.
yeah there is really nothing else to do in ff14 except for gathering, crafting, fishing, relic weapons, raid questlines,alt jobs, side questlines, glamours, deep dungeons, pvp, collecting, housing, beast tribes, bozja, mount farming, and gold saucer
Cacttos 2022년 7월 18일 오전 2시 40분 
As a person that has played both MMO's, I hope my somewhat small input can help.

Final Fantasy is nice, though, apart from paying for a sub, the game is very linear in the sense that nearly everything is locked behind a quest. The entire experience is drawn out and over saturated with quests fillers.
I eventually felt like I was going down a predetermined path and not really my own.

My recommendation is, I would stick with ESO as it feels like you have more freedom.
FFXIV is nice in the beginning but eventually you become bored.
Nooby McNoobnoob 2022년 7월 18일 오전 3시 47분 
ff14 can be played as another singleplayer ff game with extra multiplayer for major story beats/dungeons, however the community almost falls head of heals to help you to the point of almost stalker levels depending on your thoughts, its a lot more indepth when it comes of extras like crafting/gathering that can consume a lot of time with little instant gratification. i feel 14 is more of time investment, and with the job/class system you grow really attached to your character and therefor the story and world, where as other mmos that rely on alts you have a habbit of rushing throught things you have done before. combat depends on your class and rotation, unfortunally its a dance step, ie do this than this than this. fighting while slow for some of the classes is handed will with callouts and areas being marked out that by the time your out of the learning noob phase of combat you should be able to make it throught most new dungeon bosses without too much trouble with whats happening.

ESO is a great pick up and play mmo, you need little refreshing to get back into things, and simple is not a bad thing for a non-subscription game, the community has no problems with helping grouping up same as the ff14 but it can be hit or miss for gameplay tips or help - imo. crafting is straight into it, as is collecting and fishing, daily bonuses, and account bank can both help and hinder alts depending on eso plus subscription for the crafting bag, while you have a smaller toolbar for abilities than other games you can morph abilites into branching versions, making combat and builds personal to your character story or your own gameplay tastes. and you are quicker into the world and story than the slow boil of ff14.

i would really reccomend giving both a shot, buy eso when theres a nice discount that way you dont have to burn yourself out on it and can continual play anytime without worrying about subscription stuff. and ff14 has free trails to the end of the first expansion with level cap and some game play stuff locked out. if you stick with ff14 after the slow burn and equally slow combat at low levels you will find a big reward of story and how you effect the world but it requires reading quest texts and not just doing the nu-WoW of collecting question marks and chain doing quest to focus on levels, its a game about the journey not the destination. ESO on the other hand is great little stories in each area both self contained and some that give a bit of flavour to bigger ones, however i will admit it did not hold me as well as 14, but thats because i was switching alts a couple of days at a time.
again i recommend giving both a try
Sgt. Magnusson 2022년 7월 18일 오전 5시 11분 
FFXIV, hands down, can't even compare the two.

The only thing that ESO does better is that all of the dialogue is voiced, but then again, FFXIV has cutscenes and ESO doesn't.

Although the games were released 8 months apart, FFXIV is better optimized, runs better even on old machines. In ESO, I'm constantly running into silhouette characters, invisible NPCs, textures not loading, invisible enemies and audio lag.

Dungeons are far more interesting in FFXIV and players are expected to fulfill the role they queue for or the group doesn't work. In ESO, tons of DPS queue as tanks and healers just for quick queues. I keep getting "tanks" that don't tank and "healers" that don't heal and nobody seems to care. The dungeons also seem very mindless, they all seem to have the same difficulty of the very first FFXIV dungeon.

Animations are awful in ESO, very stiff, very unnatural. It has the animations of a 2002 game. The majority of FFXIV animations are motion captured, so they look very good.

All Gear in FFXIV has meshes, even accessories. Heavy armor actually makes your character look bulkier and hats don't make your character bald. In ESO, most of the gear are just textures, no meshes, they don't give volume to your character, which makes them look very awful, specially if you make your character skinny, then they look ridiculous. Heavy armor doesn't make your character look bulky, they look anorexic.

ESO's crown store is insanely overpriced and has crappy loot boxes. FFXIV's doesn't have loot boxes and most of the items in the store could be earned for free by simply playing the game, as most of them are seasonal rewards.

I have 17,563 hours in FFXIV and I still log in to do some dungeons, some raids and plan some glamours. I bought ESO in 2014 and only have about 300 hours in it. I played it from time to time but always got bored after a couple of weeks. I picked it up again when High Isle came out and I'm losing interest really quickly due to how boring everything is, even the story is below average.
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