This is the Worst Dungeon Finder I Have Ever Seen in a MMORPG

[NathanosATD]

I have played almost every bad and good mmorpg out there and i can say that the elder scrolls dungeon finder is the worst one i have ever seen.

If you are a dps class it takes sometimes hours and hours to find a one dungeon. Sometime, because of this It feels like a dead game to be honest. Even if you do know it isn't. Yesterday i have waited in queue for 2hours 37 minute to find a dungeon and when it did our tank left group for no reason and we had to wait another 15 min for its to find another tank.
Like for example i am trying to do that boss with a bad group full of guys dying like a 3-5 time. We are wiping it like 3-5 times and i am still trying to get it through. Cause i knew if i leave it is gonna take forever to find a new one.

And the system. Oh system....
Sometimes i got 36 level tank who is trying to carry and sometimes i got 800 cp dps. It is so unbalanced and annoying. And because of the reasons that i said i can't even bother to leave the dungeon when i see a 30 level tank. Cause like i said i always knew if i leave i wont gonna be able to play any other dungeon in the next hour.

By far i liked this game. I never thought that i can get enjoy out of it but i am getting it. I am enjoying so much but this dungeon thing.... it kills my vibe. And makes me wanna quit sometime.

For example i have waited 1 hour 12 minutes to find a dungeon and we didn't even get through the first boss without dying 3 times. I left the party and now its been 1 hour 37 minute and i am still waiting for its to find a dungeon. Like what the damn hell?

Btw english is not my first language but i tried my best. I hope you'll guys get what i am trying to say.

[brenelael]

The problem isn't really the Dungeon Finder as it's the fact that there are 100 DPS characters to every Tank or Healer Character. Until they find a way to make playing a Tank or Healer more enticing to more people this will not change. For now the best work around is to get yourself into a decent guild and pre-arrange your dungeon parties with your guildies. When you queue up with a full party already you get in instantly. Another is to find a Tank or Healer buddy to queue with you as this will greatly reduce your wait.

Also I've yet to play any MMO where doing dungeon content with randoms was a good idea. In WoW for example you'd go through 100's of randoms before you lucked into anything remotely resembling a decent group.

[Hollywood]

Yeah... WoW is the biggest MMO and the Dungeon Finder there takes 30+ minutes sometimes as DPS. Why are you surprised that an MMO has long wait times for a DPS? Only want to play dungeons with randoms? Play a tank or a healer, obviously.

Exactly what brenelael said, find a group of people (easier now than ever) to play dungeons with. You'll not only get to do them without waiting for a queue to pop, you'll do them efficiently and fast. Dungeon Finder shouldn't be a thing in MMO's anyways, it only makes players less social as well as uneducated on mechanics in the game. Get rid of LFG I say!

[NathanosATD]

Originally posted by hollywoodkik:

Yeah... WoW is the biggest MMO and the Dungeon Finder there takes 30+ minutes sometimes as DPS. Why are you surprised that an MMO has long wait times for a DPS? Only want to play dungeons with randoms? Play a tank or a healer, obviously.

Exactly what brenelael said, find a group of people (easier now than ever) to play dungeons with. You'll not only get to do them without waiting for a queue to pop, you'll do them efficiently and fast. Dungeon Finder shouldn't be a thing in MMO's anyways, it only makes players less social as well as uneducated on mechanics in the game. Get rid of LFG I say!

Yeah i played WoW 3 years but like you said it was taking 30 minutes to find one not 2 hour.

[rasabt]

problem
a) 4 spaces per dungeon problem
b) 1 tank 1 heal -> which creates only 2 dps spaces

in a game where you got 10000000 dps, and rather few tanks/heals

funny thing though cause in raids/trials you need all those dps, who the dungeon-finder clearly doesn't need or encourage. best choice is to setup for both dps and either heal or tank. but you need addons, cause the game doesn't offer real skill/loadout systems.

[Blueyce]

I understand the frustration. I really do. But like breneiael said above, it's not the system.

When I play my DPS toon I have to wait over an hour to get a dungeon. So my solution was to build a Tank and play that.
Yesterday when I qued as a tank I didn't even have time to scratch my a$$ before I was loaded in. Most of all I had fun doing it. I thought a tank was just to stand there and get hit but that isn't true.
There are many builds out there where you join the team in attacking the mobs and bosses and while your dps will not be as powerful as the DPS toons its kind of cool to be able to stand there and and say " come on, give me your best shot " and just brush it off.
"Woeler.com" Beginners Guide to Tanking. read it and explore the possibilities.
I very much hope that you will consider this solution as the more tanks ther are the less time we will spend in que as DPS toons.
OR you can become a Healer. :)

the post automatically turned my info for Woeler into a LINK and when I clicked on it the response was that it was blocked. Google Woeler or Alcast. Im puzzled.

[MMOGamer71]

Simple solution that works for all MMO's

1) Play as a tank.
2) Play as a healer.
3) Play as a DPS but enter the queue along side a dedicated tank or healer.

[Koya' 19XX-20XX]

Originally posted by Harlot:

I have played almost every bad and good mmorpg out there and i can say that the elder scrolls dungeon finder is the worst one i have ever seen.

If you are a dps class it takes sometimes hours and hours to find a one dungeon. Sometime, because of this It feels like a dead game to be honest. Even if you do know it isn't. Yesterday i have waited in queue for 2hours 37 minute to find a dungeon and when it did our tank left group for no reason and we had to wait another 15 min for its to find another tank.
Like for example i am trying to do that boss with a bad group full of guys dying like a 3-5 time. We are wiping it like 3-5 times and i am still trying to get it through. Cause i knew if i leave it is gonna take forever to find a new one.

And the system. Oh system....
Sometimes i got 36 level tank who is trying to carry and sometimes i got 800 cp dps. It is so unbalanced and annoying. And because of the reasons that i said i can't even bother to leave the dungeon when i see a 30 level tank. Cause like i said i always knew if i leave i wont gonna be able to play any other dungeon in the next hour.

By far i liked this game. I never thought that i can get enjoy out of it but i am getting it. I am enjoying so much but this dungeon thing.... it kills my vibe. And makes me wanna quit sometime.

For example i have waited 1 hour 12 minutes to find a dungeon and we didn't even get through the first boss without dying 3 times. I left the party and now its been 1 hour 37 minute and i am still waiting for its to find a dungeon. Like what the damn hell?

Btw english is not my first language but i tried my best. I hope you'll guys get what i am trying to say.

Just join guilds and do runs with them that's how i do :) but i like playing tanky sometimes so :)

[Drake]

Originally posted by MMOGamer71:

Simple solution that works for all MMO's

1) Play as a tank.
2) Play as a healer.
3) Play as a DPS but enter the queue along side a dedicated tank or healer.

Get that 3rd option out... don't put ideas in people's mind. While it can work (depending on the players) in normal easy dungeons, that stunt is harmful for later DLC normal dungeons and most vet dungeons.

You can somewhat do something with a dps tagging as a healer (you can bring a self heal to adjust and pray you get a good team), but if the tank isn't, some boss fights can get really tedious (the support a tank provides in eso is crucial, tank can pretty much double the efficiency of all other dps in the team), especially if the dps are not that good.

To do dungeons with 4 dps, you need a dps team made for that, that stuff doesn't appear in random parties, that's why we have party formations, becasue if someone tags as a tank, you should be able to trust that the tank is going to do as least basic tank stuff and play accordingly.

[xLєgєиdαяy]

Originally posted by MMOGamer71:

Simple solution that works for all MMO's

1) Play as a tank.
2) Play as a healer.
3) Play as a DPS but enter the queue along side a dedicated tank or healer.

^^

[Full_Regalia]

I’ve never waited more than 5 mins… but again I’m a healer 😀

[Requimatic]

Dungeon Finder works just fine in this game.

This is just what happens when you queue for a normal below level 50.. because most folks aren't doing dungeons to level up, as it is incredibly inefficient to do. And newer players don't want to be bothered by it because they either don't know their class all that well, or just don't want to interact with folks.

Now go hit L50, CP160, and queue for your daily Veteran pledges. 15 minutes tops for DPS, sometimes much sooner than that. (Pretty frequently, to be honest.)

[JimPappa]

Originally posted by Sajah:

Originally posted by MMOGamer71:

Simple solution that works for all MMO's

1) Play as a tank.
2) Play as a healer.
3) Play as a DPS but enter the queue along side a dedicated tank or healer.

Get that 3rd option out... don't put ideas in people's mind. While it can work (depending on the players) in normal easy dungeons, that stunt is harmful for later DLC normal dungeons and most vet dungeons.

You can somewhat do something with a dps tagging as a healer (you can bring a self heal to adjust and pray you get a good team), but if the tank isn't, some boss fights can get really tedious (the support a tank provides in eso is crucial, tank can pretty much double the efficiency of all other dps in the team), especially if the dps are not that good.

To do dungeons with 4 dps, you need a dps team made for that, that stuff doesn't appear in random parties, that's why we have party formations, becasue if someone tags as a tank, you should be able to trust that the tank is going to do as least basic tank stuff and play accordingly.

I don't think he meant queuing as a tank/healer when you're actually a DD.

[Goose]

I don't think it has to do with the dungeon finder to be honest. If you go into PvP then you will just see that the VAST MAJORITY of players are DPS, and it seems like 70% of the DPS there are mages, because mages in ESO are pretty powerful, and a group of mages can obliterate melee classes before they even come close into melee range.

The only potential solution I could think of would be to buff healing classes, or maybe make healing more of a viable alternative to DPS? I don't know, but one thing that WoW did right was make every class feel useful. Healing is useful of course in ESO, but why don't more people want to heal?

Play as a healer & you won't be in queue for more than 4 minutes lol

[737]

Join a guild, get 3 people, never get queues again.

[EViLiSLuRKiNG]

"If you are a dps class it takes sometimes hours and hours to find a one dungeon. "

Because most want to be DPS,but you also need other classes to run these.I agree that it's still not the best system but it gets a lot bad rap for no reason.

Most of the time it's not broken,what is broken is a game were most want to be DPS when you need other classes to run the content.

So do the math....

What is broken is the people running it,because they still want to be DPS but will pretend to say be healer to get in quicker,then you end up dying a lot or not completing the content because your team doesn't have the right classes.

You need to find like minded people to run these or join a guild and so forth.