Battlegrounds is the biggest garbage ever

[Klinsk]

They should remove it, it's always totally unbalanced and unfair. I'm only CP37 but some players kill me in one hit. And yes, I know how to heal/dodge/block/etc.

How does anyone enjoy this crap? My teammates are always running away from each other instead of grouping.

[shlizzrd]

How about you just don't play it?

[Archon]

CP does not matter in Battlegrounds, they are no-CP. This means you need Impenetrable traits to avoid getting one-shotted, as well as set-bonuses to help with sustain/damage/Survival etc. Bad teammates are a debuff that you cannot get rid of though.

[Wolfstorm]

BGs should have a PvE version, like Maelstrom Arena.

CP is not applied in BGs. However, the cheaters have ways to apply it, like they did in the Kyne campaign. So you have unkillable tanks who one-shot you, no matter your build.

[rasabt]

i think the only problem is that some important pve skills are locked behind pvp-currency/exp.
bgs can be very fun or horrific...just like in any other game like this. beeing forced on every toon to endure even one evening of currency grinding cause you need caltrops is rather not fun.

i play alot of pug bgs and there are great teams were everything works and winning/losing is only half the fun, but yeah you find the occasional chaos-troupe often enough just aswell...that's life.

[Klinsk]

Thanks guys.

[Mus Canus]

If someone can oneshot you, there is no reason for your teammates to group really. Cause it probably means it's low mmr bgs and there are a lot of 17k hp / no impen guys, and a dedicated pvp build can go full john wick mode and wipe the entire teams in a matter of seconds on his own.

The fun doesn't last though, after a while there are just tryhards, premades and premades made of tryhards everywhere.

[Klinsk]

Yeah, I read about players who use "good" players' presets or something.

[Crowkeeper]

Your gear is garbage.

This is why people say that the game doesn't really begin until you hit 160.

[Klinsk]

Should I buy sets in Cyrodiil from the Battlemasters with Alliance Points?

[Crowkeeper]

Originally posted by Klinsk:

Should I buy sets in Cyrodiil from the Battlemasters with Alliance Points?

Not necessarily.

The best thing you could do is grind your way to cp160, then worry about the gear you need.

Go to Craglorn and ask around for Skyreach runs. Often you can find someone who will do them for free (I have never had to pay), or someone may try to charge you 2-5k per run. Use your exp scrolls or ambrosia to make it faster.

There is also a place called Lost Prospect in The Rift where you can pull multiple mobs for good exp. Doing the daily random dungeons is also good exp.

Do your daily pledges for the Undaunted as well and save the keys you get until cp160 for max level monster set shoulders.

Once you hit cp160 just go online to AlcastHQ or somewhere similar to find a pvp build for your class.

[Klinsk]

Thanks.

[Ammo]

remember ambrossia or exp scroll don't stack choose 1

[rasabt]

also don't run around with less then 5 pieces of heavy armor...i know you can light armor bgs, but only when you know what you are doing.

get 5 pieces heavy, get atleast 1 reliable cc and keep in mind that sustain is fairly important when you are not running with a dedicated group.

learne to
weave: light attack, skill, light attack, skill, rince repeate
interrupt, some of the nastiest abilities can be bashed
block/dodge
and most important imho. : don't cc break every cc, only when it's absolutly neccessary


AlcastHQ when hitting 160 is also kinda the best and easiest thing if you are a new player.

[Cat Island President]

CPs are not applied in BG. The only thing CP matters is your gear. You are not gear capped yet, so you will be inferior than players who wear cp160 gold armors. Thats is about all.

If you get 1 shoted all the time, wear armor with crit resistance. The armor set u can get from doing pvp stuff, with 5 pieces, you get about 2-3k crit resist depending on which color you make ur armors to be.
But I dont use this set, I just use armors with impenetrable trait.
Wear 5 piece heavys, doesnt matter if u are magicka based or stam based. It is how u will survive longer. Wear the rest 2 pieces as light or med depending on your build.

Also your build is probably not for PVP. Some skills are not used in PVE but very useful in PVP.

[Requimatic]

People still claiming cheats all day long with zero proof, nice.

Since CP is disabled in BGs, you need to do the following:

1. All heavy armor; get your resists as high as possible.

Capped resists are part of the PvP meta, though I'm not sure you can achieve that in CP-disabled environments.

2. Impenetrable traits on ALL seven pieces.

This is going to be your main defense against glass cannon crit builds. Yes, they still exist, despite the fact that any competent player poops all over them all day long.

3. Don't use garbage damage-oriented sets.

While sets like Hunding's Rage might look good on paper (and is a decent entry-level set even for sub-50 BGs), the fact is they provide you with no defense whatsoever. Think more outside the box and you're going to have a much better time. People who gear themselves defensively are going to simply outlast you.

Also worth noting is that everything I've say is likely to change when update 23 goes live. If you care to, hop over to the forums and give the notes a look.. one of the more popular Heavy Armor sets that's part of the current PvP meta (7th Legion) is being nerfed in to uselessness, along with basically everything else in the game.

So don't go investing a whole bunch of time and gold in to gear sets and such yet.

U23 is literally nothing but nerfs, except for Twin Slashes.. it got buffed, somehow.