Nerf NB.. like a LOT please?

[Hundred2XERO (LFT?)]

Incap.

How do you define PvP?

NB.

Ive been playing since beta, i can fight just about anyone, i can sustain ina 1-4vX like its a joke.. but when theirs that ONE META NB.. the game becomes a joke, to bad that ONE NB, turns in 100 NB's because thats ALL PVP IS.

If NB is going to be the EASIEST class to play, why tf is their ult (incap) 70?
Why does their ult hit so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard, cost NOTHING, gives BONUS damage, has a DOT, DEFILE, and STUN?

Not to mention it can ALWAYS crit it done from stealth...

ZOS, you NEED to nerf the living hell out of incap. Either take away its stun, bonus damage, its dot, or make it cost 150-200 ult. Better yet take away everything it gives other than its straight up damage and the stun, that would literally be perfect, thats ALL it needs.

If youre not, make stam DK's in PvP playable again, make Stamplar healing not so♥♥♥♥♥♥. when its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ templar.. the class that kinda is a HEALING class, yet the stamina version of it is complete dog♥♥♥♥♥♥ Bring back the old dark deal for stam sorcs, give Magsorcs the stun back on their MAIN ability and pretty much only damage ability/burst. Give sorcs back their 20 second shield, bring back the proc sets so a proc build is actually playable and not fully dog♥♥♥♥♥♥ allow magDK's to reflect meteors again, make the vampire passives what they used to be, allow heavy armor builds to run shuffle, harness etc.. give stam builds a actuall good ult in their class so DB isnt the only thing every stam build relies on other than leap, not to mention give it a stun, defile, make it cheap, gives you bonus damage, and can ALWAYS crit if you do it from stealthed, give stam regen when blocking, magicka regen while in mist form..

Your game is complete cancer in PvP, all their is are NB's now because why not play a NB?

You can burst ANY build down, its so damn easy to play "Let me hide in stealth, pop a pot, incap you, watch you get stunned, then ill surprise attack you bc i have 20% bonus damage and you cant heal because you have a huge defile on you, also you have major fracture so im hitting twice as hard, not to mention youre taking dot damage hehe.. oh i got my ult again after 3 seconds? incap."

That defines a NB.. whether you agree or not. It is the EASIEST class to play, unless you have some self respect for yourself and dont run the bs meta.

PLEASE ZOS, if youre not ever going to fix your PvP servers and the zerg of bugs in your game, fix the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NB and nerf it already, and not nerf it into the ground, nerf INCAP.

[Wo1f]

yes lets nerf all the classes except for OP's class which sould be buffed above all others so that OP can stop crying when he gets his behind handed to him in pvp, never mind that this is ruining all the classes for players in pve aswell cause zos refuses to separate pve from pvp and make balance changes separately...

[Hundred2XERO (LFT?)]

A. Matrosov původně napsal:

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

NB is not the hardest at all.

NB - "buff>cloak>ambush>fear>incap>(20% MORE DMG for 6%)>surprise attack stam>execute>dead" ANY good NB can kill anyone with that combo, ive seen some of the best players in ESO die from a player you dont even recognize by name to that combo bc inap is that broken.

I play a NB SnB 2h, i dont run cloak, i run heavy armor, no monster set, and sets you would lable as "trash" but i can kill just about anyone that tries to fight me, i can tank a zerg like its nothing.. 1vX... i can support a 4-6 man group easily..

NB is not hard at all, if you think its hard to play then you havent put more than 72 hours of gameplay in PvP as a NB

Theoretician... You are NOT playing NB. You are playing a scorcerer, it's obvious in you'r posts.

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

Bring back the old dark deal for stam sorcs, give Magsorcs the stun back on their MAIN ability and pretty much only damage ability/burst. Give sorcs back their 20 second shield, bring back the proc sets so a proc build is actually playable... allow heavy armor builds to run shuffle, harness etc..

No comments. It's sound like "GIVE TO MY SORC "KILL TMEM ALL" BUTTON". Even worsest. By the way, scorcerer of today is overpowered meta-class, he got this kill-them-all button (skilled sorc can annihilate all in PVP) and a scorcerers needs hard nerf, not any another class.

P.S. Sorc crying that was killed by NB. Ha-ha, nice joke. Obvious trolling from you'r side, mate. You playing a meta class (sorc) and want to make this meta-class much more meta. Sure, you'r favorite classes must be unkillable and must destroy any another classes while just looking at them.

P.P.S. Where is crying about stamina-wardens with their 40k burst. This guys not a problem for you'r "poor" sorc? Looks like you forgot.

Are you trying to say i play a mag sorc? xD

For PvE yes, i parse 38k.

PvP? I main a MagDK, Stamplar and a Magplar. Magsorcs dont need a nerf, they already took a hard nerf with cfrags. Shields arnt a problem at all, put pressure on them, they spam shields, waste their magicka, cant use shield, then their dead, its not hard at all lmfao.

[The Sly Cat]

♛♥aMiracle♥♛

A point was that you are not playing for NB. And want to nerf the classes except your main.

Sorcs needs a nerf and they be rightly nerfed in update 7 or 8 (read ZoS forum), more hardly than fragments stun. Prepare to cry more.

[Hundred2XERO (LFT?)]

A. Matrosov původně napsal:

♛♥aMiracle♥♛

A point was that you are not playing for NB. And want to nerf the classes except your main.

Sorcs needs a nerf and they be rightly nerfed in update 7 or 8 (read ZoS forum), more hardly than fragments stun. Prepare to cry more.

Lmfao, no. I have played a NB, and i still do, but i dont play it like a p***y. I dont run cloak, and i dont run incap.

Incap needs a nerf, and the only people who think other wise are the sh*t players that ride the d*ck of the NB class and run the meta builds.

Sorc's dont need a nerf, Templars need a buff, give them major mending back, DK's dont need a nerf, Wardens need a nerf, shimmering shield shouldnt give minor heorism, NB's need incap nerfed badly. Take off the bonus dmg, and the defile and the ult is perfectly fine.

And again, the people that will disagree with that are the s*it players in PvP that run around with Kodi's or Sypher build thinking their good xD ZOS is even talking about nerfing incap by taking off the bonus damg and making it cost 125 ult, which NEEDS to be done.

[sergykid]

i'm a main stamplar and i don't have problems with NBs, when they ult me i just break ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge awya and stun them, by the time the effect is done.

my BIG problem is with magDKs which kills me instantly while not taking damage at all, often seeing 1vX; and with magSorcs, which can just spam the shields and you won't even touch his HP by the time you die.

[The Sly Cat]

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

Lmfao, no. I have played a NB, and i still do, but i dont play it like a p***y.

You think i don't believe, that you have played NB? I believe you. But I'm talking about classes that you like and prefer or don't. NB you don't, for this reason you asking for nerf (not because you want a better balance). Simple.

sergykid původně napsal:

i'm a main stamplar and i don't have problems with NBs, when they ult me i just break ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge awya and stun them, by the time the effect is done.
my BIG problem is with magDKs which kills me instantly while not taking damage at all, often seeing 1vX; and with magSorcs, which can just spam the shields and you won't even touch his HP by the time you die.

True, but OP will not ask to nerf MagDK and MagSorc, because he playing a MagDK and MagSorc. He want to hard nerf classes that he dont like.

[Hundred2XERO (LFT?)]

A. Matrosov původně napsal:

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

Lmfao, no. I have played a NB, and i still do, but i dont play it like a p***y.

You think i don't believe, that you have played NB? I believe you. But I'm talking about classes that you like and prefer or don't. NB you don't, for this reason you asking for nerf (not because you want a better balance). Simple.

sergykid původně napsal:

i'm a main stamplar and i don't have problems with NBs, when they ult me i just break ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge awya and stun them, by the time the effect is done.
my BIG problem is with magDKs which kills me instantly while not taking damage at all, often seeing 1vX; and with magSorcs, which can just spam the shields and you won't even touch his HP by the time you die.

True, but OP will not ask to nerf MagDK and MagSorc, because he playing a MagDK and MagSorc. He want to hard nerf classes that he dont like.

No, its a well know FACT that a NB needs a nerf, and again, only people that think opposite are the people riding the NB fanboy train.

Nerf incap, and the class it fine. Incap SHOULD NOT give bonus dmg, stun, defile a dot and all at the same time cost as much as crecent sweep... which gives pretty much none of that.

If all incap did was STUN the target + its upfront dmg, it would be fine, but for giving all those AMAZINGLY OP bonuses for ONLY 70 ult? No, ESPECIALLY with BS, Werewolf Hide, Decisive and Asylum 2h being a thing. Not to mention pots giving, what? 20ult when you drink one?

MagSorcs dont need a nerf, if you know how to fight one its super easy. I can kill a NB EASILY, bc 90% of them are complete dog sh*t at the game, but all it takes is me hit them with 1 skill, their half health, cloak away, heal, potion, ambus fear incap 20% dmg + stun + defile + dot.. it takes 0 skill xD it needs a nerf, and im happy ZOS is finally talking about it, took them nearly 5 damn years.

[✵The Red Comet✵]

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

A. Matrosov původně napsal:

You think i don't believe, that you have played NB? I believe you. But I'm talking about classes that you like and prefer or don't. NB you don't, for this reason you asking for nerf (not because you want a better balance). Simple.


True, but OP will not ask to nerf MagDK and MagSorc, because he playing a MagDK and MagSorc. He want to hard nerf classes that he dont like.

No, its a well know FACT that a NB needs a nerf, and again, only people that think opposite are the people riding the NB fanboy train.

Nerf incap, and the class it fine. Incap SHOULD NOT give bonus dmg, stun, defile a dot and all at the same time cost as much as crecent sweep... which gives pretty much none of that.

If all incap did was STUN the target + its upfront dmg, it would be fine, but for giving all those AMAZINGLY OP bonuses for ONLY 70 ult? No, ESPECIALLY with BS, Werewolf Hide, Decisive and Asylum 2h being a thing. Not to mention pots giving, what? 20ult when you drink one?

MagSorcs dont need a nerf, if you know how to fight one its super easy. I can kill a NB EASILY, bc 90% of them are complete dog sh*t at the game, but all it takes is me hit them with 1 skill, their half health, cloak away, heal, potion, ambus fear incap 20% dmg + stun + defile + dot.. it takes 0 skill xD it needs a nerf, and im happy ZOS is finally talking about it, took them nearly 5 damn years.

I don't have Werewolf hide, gold food or good pots, nor asylum weapons. I am just a peasant NB with 5pc spriggans, 5pc Eternal Hunt and 2pc selene ;( No nerf plz

[The Sly Cat]

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

and im happy ZOS is finally talking about it, took them nearly 5 damn years.

Where is ZoS talking about it, lol? =) Can you share link? First, ZoS don't talking about any class changes before the changes happens. Second, in their forum comments ZoS wrote that NB looks pretty ballanced class already and dont needs any buffs/nerfs. Or you know something, that developers dont know? =D

P.S. And third, ZoS forum blows from the topics like "buff NB please". So based on historical experience, if class changes will happens, most likely it will be buff, than nerf.

[sergykid]

ZoS needs to make heavy balances in PVP, if it is possible for one guy to 1vX and for others to not even drain hp in 1v1, then it's a problem. It's like a school test where everyone gets an F and just 2-3 people get A. It's not the students fault, it's the test's.

also, ZoS doesn't look on Steam forums, so all of us can whine all day, only on their official forum posts are read.

[Naravolian]

J🅰D🅴🅼ooseД původně napsal:

lmao NBs are in no way OP atm, the best right now is prob stam wardens and any skilled player can take down NBs by survivng their initial burst

This.

[✵The Red Comet✵]

sergykid původně napsal:

ZoS needs to make heavy balances in PVP, if it is possible for one guy to 1vX and for others to not even drain hp in 1v1, then it's a problem. It's like a school test where everyone gets an F and just 2-3 people get A. It's not the students fault, it's the test's.

also, ZoS doesn't look on Steam forums, so all of us can whine all day, only on their official forum posts are read.

Actually, that's why ESO is so fun, that's what makes theory crafting fun

[Hundred2XERO (LFT?)]

A. Matrosov původně napsal:

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

and im happy ZOS is finally talking about it, took them nearly 5 damn years.

Where is ZoS talking about it, lol? =) Can you share link? First, ZoS don't talking about any class changes before the changes happens. Second, in their forum comments ZoS wrote that NB looks pretty ballanced class already and dont needs any buffs/nerfs. Or you know something, that developers dont know? =D

P.S. And third, ZoS forum blows from the topics like "buff NB please". So based on historical experience, if class changes will happens, most likely it will be buff, than nerf.

I got 2 friends working for ZOS and 1 friend working with Bethesda, theirs been a lot of talk and controversy about nerfing incap.

If you think NB needs a buff, youre proably a NB fanboy riding the fanboy train, and cant play any other class for sh*t. Incap needs a nerf, but the sh*t players are to blind to see it.. because its what they rely on :D a broken ult..

[Hundred2XERO (LFT?)]

sergykid původně napsal:

ZoS needs to make heavy balances in PVP, if it is possible for one guy to 1vX and for others to not even drain hp in 1v1, then it's a problem. It's like a school test where everyone gets an F and just 2-3 people get A. It's not the students fault, it's the test's.

also, ZoS doesn't look on Steam forums, so all of us can whine all day, only on their official forum posts are read.

a 1vX is a skilled player vs a bunch of sh*t players. All it takes is 2-3 good players to be in the X and the 1 wont win.

Pretty much shows the 1 player knows how to play and can easily out play the X.

Hell, the best clip i have ever recorded was a 4v23, and my 4 man won. How? We simply had 10x the skill of the 23 players. We know how to PvP and we know the priorities in a situation like that. Burst the healers, leave the tanks be, kill the squishys, kite the noobs, time ults, burst the group. Same with a 1vX, if you know what you're doing you can 1vX EASILY, as long as the X isnt 2+ skilled players.

KodiPvP for example, all his 1vX clips? He 1vX's sh*t players. When i ran with him in open world and we encounterd a zerg, we'll 2vX most of them, but its the skilled players that know what theyre doing is what causes the L on our (his/my) side.

[The Sly Cat]

♛♥aMiracle♥♛ původně napsal:

I got 2 friends working for ZOS and 1 friend working with Bethesda, theirs been a lot of talk and controversy about nerfing incap

Sure-sure, you got some insider info, that even developers dont know. Only you and your fictional friends.

BTW, for your attention, anyone dont agree with you here, another players wrote that they have no any problems with night blades in PVP (I have no problems with them too). May be you must git gud and it will resolve your issue, mate?