DW + 2H for PVE . Will it work ?

[Farmer]

Guys, Will a DW stamina nightblade build work in PVE if i select my second weapon 2 H for the Rally skill ?

Im asking this because most of the builds are DW / Bow and i cant figure it out why.

Thx for your help.

[Wo1f]

i dont see why not, bow is usually used for its aoe and dot and for min-maxing dps, but its not an absolute must.

most will also tell you that dw is for pve and 2h is for pvp, but that is not an absolute be all end all setup, and you can absolutely go with dw+2h if you so desire, you will lack a ranged option and a bit of aoe/dot from the bow, but its not that big of a deal really, so go ahead and make a build to your liking and enjoy playing it. Hell, some people even make bow/bow builds and enjoy playing them just as much as the current "meta" builds, so go and have fun and dont worry too much about it as you can respec at any time and try other options if you desire a change.

[Farmer]

Thx @Wo1f.
The main reason for my idea is the 2H rally skill. 20 % Dmg increase and the self heal.

[Wo1f]

Publicado originalmente por Amon Morell:

Thx @Wo1f.
The main reason for my idea is the 2H rally skill. 20 % Dmg increase and the self heal.

yeah self heal is essential on stamina builds so unless you want to grind pvp for vigor self heal, then Rally from 2h is the next best thing, or playing stam sorc cause they have a good class self heal that stam builds can use.

[Drake]

I set up my khajiit stamsorc with dw/2H for a time, stealth 2H mementum strike can OS most regular mobs (great opener), and the combo of having aoe and single target focus is very handy.

I would actually use a DK for that setup on the long run, because the 2 stamina dots you get from the class can replace the bow dot support. I'm not sure NB has the same capability available with stamina.

[The Sly Cat]

Publicado originalmente por Amon Morell:

Thx @Wo1f.
The main reason for my idea is the 2H rally skill. 20 % Dmg increase and the self heal.

Rally be good for PVP, but not a better idea for PVE. Way that you need to gain Major Brutality (20% to basic weapon damage and not a 20% "damage increase" - it's different things) in the serious end game content like veteran trials - alchemy potions. Spend place on your skill bar for Major Brutality means significantly reduce you'r DPS.

You will not find master PVE build 35k+ DPS with 2H for many reasons... But you can play the way you want.

[Kyutaru]

Publicado originalmente por A. Matrosov:

You will not find master PVE build 35k+ DPS with 2H for many reasons... But you can play the way you want.

https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-2h-build-pve/

[The Sly Cat]

Publicado originalmente por Kyutaru:

Publicado originalmente por A. Matrosov:

You will not find master PVE build 35k+ DPS with 2H for many reasons... But you can play the way you want.

https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-2h-build-pve/

We talking about nightblade, and you'r link is about stamina sorc with 2H that hardly doing 31k DPS. Stamina nightblade with duals can do 36k+ and even more on the same dummy.

May be 31k a good result for stamina sorc, but bad for stamina nightblade. https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-build-for-pve/ - Same alcast's guy in the same patch doing 38k DPS playing Stamina Nightblade with duals.

[Wo1f]

Publicado originalmente por A. Matrosov:

Publicado originalmente por Kyutaru:

https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-2h-build-pve/

We talking about nightblade, and you'r link is about stamina sorc with 2H that hardly doing 31k DPS. Stamina nightblade with duals can do 36k+ and even more on the same dummy.

May be 31k a good result for stamina sorc, but bad for stamina nightblade. https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-build-for-pve/ - Same alcast's guy in the same patch doing 38k DPS playing Stamina Nightblade with duals.

stamblade with 2h is even easier to play cause they have a good class stam spammable skill
so dont have to use the slow 2h spammable, so that would mean even better dps.
plus you are assuming everyone wants to be a super hard core trial leaderboard player where every point of dps matters, while the guy was just pointing out that yes you can play comfortably with 2h instead of dw and not be useless at damage dealing role...

dps parses on a dummy areuseless, no one can achieve those in real combat where you have to move and dodgle and block and interrupt etc.

[The Sly Cat]

Publicado originalmente por Wo1f:

stamblade with 2h is even easier to play cause they have a good class stam spammable skill
so dont have to use the slow 2h spammable, so that would mean even better dps. plus you are assuming everyone wants to be a super hard core trial leaderboard player where every point of dps matters, while the guy was just pointing out that yes you can play comfortably with 2h instead of dw and not be useless at damage dealing role...
dps parses on a dummy areuseless, no one can achieve those in real combat where you have to move and dodgle and block and interrupt etc.

1. It's not be better DPS. Tested many times with different setups. Better DPS in this patch be with duals: dagger+dagger or dagger+axe. Significantly better.
By the way, stam/mag blade got most difficult rotation in the game.
2.I told, that you can play the way you want.
3. You right about dummies and real combat, but if you can't do at least 23-25k+ on a dummy, most of vet trials not for you.

[Wo1f]

Publicado originalmente por A. Matrosov:

Publicado originalmente por Wo1f:

stamblade with 2h is even easier to play cause they have a good class stam spammable skill
so dont have to use the slow 2h spammable, so that would mean even better dps. plus you are assuming everyone wants to be a super hard core trial leaderboard player where every point of dps matters, while the guy was just pointing out that yes you can play comfortably with 2h instead of dw and not be useless at damage dealing role...
dps parses on a dummy areuseless, no one can achieve those in real combat where you have to move and dodgle and block and interrupt etc.

1. It's not be better DPS. Tested many times with different setups. Better DPS in this patch be with duals: dagger+dagger or dagger+axe. Significantly better.
2. I told, that you can play the way you want.
3. You right about dummies and real combat, but if you can't do at least 23-25k+ on a dummy, most of vet trials not for you.

so what, not all players are even interested in trials crap, and not all people feel like the only way to play the game is use and do whatever the min-max meta gurus happen to be using this patch.
its just a game, not a matter of life and death, chill and play to enjoy instead of chasing some imaginary mytical dps number.

[The Sly Cat]

A guy asked what be better and will do more damage in PVE. He got a "theory crafted" objective answer. About playstyle... Some players do trials and another endgame crap, some -
casual stuff only. You can also play naked without any weapons (hand-to-hand fighting with mobs) - this is completly you'r choise.