Is there a way to make this game more... Elder Scrolls?

[Cernunnos]

The lore is a mess and a disgrace to what was portrayed in previous titles, the gear choice is extremely ugly and lacks variety, combat feels bare, and the quests so far up to level 6 alone feel drawn out in such a tiny area that i feel cramped... when do the dungeons start? when do i stop seeing stereotypes on khajits every 3 minutes in game? I want to enjoy this game but it's becoming very, VERY hard to even slug my way to the next uninteresting quest area

[Snout]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sapphire Phantasma:

The lore is a mess and a disgrace to what was portrayed in previous titles

there hasn't been a game since Morrowind more true to the source material than ESO, rivaling and even surpassing it at times. ESO is to Skyrim as New Vegas is to Fallout 3.

you're not going to experience full-fledged combat in the starting area/tutorial island. dungeons can be found on the overworld starting as early as the next area, take them on immediately if you'd like

khenarthi's roost is home to some of the most sacred places of worship for khajiit so im not sure what you expect. and stereotypes exist for a reason.

[sergykid]

i diasgree, the lore is pretty good, the races always talk in their own accents, quests are related, etc

[quarre]

ESO is kinda prequel. ESO events are 741 years before TES3 Morrowind, which is 10 years before TES4 Oblivion, which is 205 years before TES5 Skyrim. Since tons fo years, you cant say ESO messed with prevous games lore. More like prevous games lore is messed with ESO lore, but who cares, of course some books and chronicles will be messed/missed for nearly 8 centuries between games.
Since all games starting from Morrowind are made by same team, ESO is as much canon as Morrowind or Skyrim.

And, you're complaining about gear choice... on level 7? Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. ESO have about 300 sets (if include about 30 monster sets, Maelstrom weapons (as 1, not per type) and all crafting/locations/dungeons/trials ones) to cusomize. More than 50 styles, from racial Nord/Bosmer/etc to trial ones (like Silken Ring) and festival (like Hollowjack).

Same with dungeons, khajiits and other stuff.

Except stereotypes. You're 700+ years before those things turned into stereotypes, remember? ESO is 2nd era, and Morrowind is 3rd. Its like, i dunno, use time machine to go into 60s and complain about hippies smoke weed is a stereotype. Yeah, so? And bosmers are cannibals.

Oprindeligt skrevet af sergykid:

i diasgree, the lore is pretty good,

I disagree that lore in ESO is pretty good, its a-okay. Like, Minnimarco corrupted The Amulet of Kings, which is the Stone of White Gold Tower, and let Molag Bal invade Nirn? Okay, cool, nothing wrong here. What about all those ancors all across Tamriel, then? White Gold Tower wasnt only Tower on Tamriel.

Why we can see ancors all across Tamriel (except DLC areas, no delves in Orsinium, Hew's Bane, Golden Coast and Morrowind), why all other Towers are silent?

There was talking about no ancors in Morrowins because its prequel... for meat's sake, its because whole Red Mountain is growing around Red Tower (hello, TES3)! But what about Hew's Bane? Pffft.

Where are all other Towers? ZoS made whole game around one of them, but what about others? There should be one on nameless mapless island near Stromhaven (which is Isle of Balfiera), one on Summerset Isles (that one nameless and mapless near Auridon), another one is in Valenwood (hey, Elden Tree)...

WTH? One of Nirn-Oblivion Defence System hubs was temporary disabled (corruped link between Stone and Tower, none of Stone or Tower was destroyed) , and whole thing is broken then? Its like door was closed on 12 locks. You broke one and other 11 was unlocked automatically. Stupid.

But maybe its me wrong, i'm not into lore much.

[sergykid]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Thaumatard:

Also, the PvP in this game is, in my opinion, the strongest aspect of the gameplay.

i disagree again, PVP sucks very much because you must get into it reaaaly serious and lock up to a perfect build of spells/gear.

also, don't say "there are 300 sets in game" yeah so what? 90% of them are garbage

[quarre]

Oprindeligt skrevet af sergykid:

also, don't say "there are 300 sets in game" yeah so what? 90% of them are garbage

More like "not used in builds on foundy/deltia/whatever". Yeah, some of them are useless garbage, and some of them are kinda OP. But it doesnt make them all useless.

Like, Night Terror + Night Mother's Embrace combo. I didnt see much people use it, but... as i asked, not much of people knows that those stealth bonuses stacks with both sets and medium armor, making you a real ninja. Good for thievery, Thieves/Brotherhood missions or ninja attacks in Cyro, since you can swap from perfect stealth to perfect attack in 0,5 sec with clicking one button (if you're using set swapping addons like GearSwap or Outfitter or...).

Or i dont see Molag Kena those days much. Same as i dont see Netch in Sorc's sets much. Elemental Succession? Same.

But any 1st builder use Aether, OV, Burning Spellware and other justinbieber sets (and you must have Maelstrom weapons as well, of GTFO), putting a duck on all other stuff.

[Cernunnos]

i'm glad people are conversing over this instead of doing a typical bicker back and forth of "nah shut up you brainless kid lol"

Oprindeligt skrevet af sergykid:

i diasgree, the lore is pretty good, the races always talk in their own accents, quests are related, etc

most of my issue with it lore wise is less of their speech and such, more of some models and origins, for example i saw a thalmor soldier that was a khajit, the thalmor have been prior known to be strictly high elves seeking to "purge" or "enslave" the "lower races", i suppose an alliance or covenant might bring them closer, but i would never put it to the thalmor to bring another race INTO their own ranks, let alone one of the "lower races"

Oprindeligt skrevet af sergykid:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Thaumatard:

Also, the PvP in this game is, in my opinion, the strongest aspect of the gameplay.

i disagree again, PVP sucks very much because you must get into it reaaaly serious and lock up to a perfect build of spells/gear.

also, don't say "there are 300 sets in game" yeah so what? 90% of them are garbage

my friend who has been playing much longer than I have agrees with that, the pvp would seem limited since most "classes" in the game seem really limited in both choice and general ability (having 5 abilities usable on the hot bar feels a bit lacking for an MMO), he even said that there are a solid 2 builds that would be viable because everything else seems lacking. As someone who loves fashion and beauty in a game, i looked into the armor sets and yes, most of them do look rather plain in comparison to previous games

I feel like most of the blame should go to zenimax for butchering a chunk of what WAS in order to sate the what IS, aka reflect on the lore and tie things together rather than make it seem more like you playing as some generic soldier with a slightly higher purpose than the others

[Snout]

this is the first instance of the aldmeri dominion. the thalmor exist but have nowhere near the power they do in the fourth era to exercise such things. the thalmor and the dominion are NOT one and the same yet, what you're seeing on that island are merely dominion infantry. the thalmor in skyrim are the third instance of the aldmeri dominion, having usurped every drop of power in the summerset isles. when you quest further into auridon THEN you will encounter some of the thalmor.

[Trigger]

LORE TIMELINE: ESO is before all other ES games

[sergykid]

that above being said, the Thalmor started the rule later than our ESO is now, maybe back then they didn't have this rule for soldiers to be strictly only high elves.

[JamuThatsWho]

Khajiit being in the Aldmeri Dominion was in the lore long before ESO launched.

[Cernunnos]

Oprindeligt skrevet af JamuThatsWho:

Khajiit being in the Aldmeri Dominion was in the lore long before ESO launched.

the aldmeri dominion yes, but the thalmor specifically?

[Offy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sapphire Phantasma:

Oprindeligt skrevet af JamuThatsWho:

Khajiit being in the Aldmeri Dominion was in the lore long before ESO launched.

the aldmeri dominion yes, but the thalmor specifically?

The Thalmor at the time of ESO is a fringe organization with very little influence. The Dominion don't like them at all.

[Blurp]

"having 5 abilities usable on the hot bar feels a bit lacking for an MMO"
10 abilities, with lvl you unlock weapon swap with it's own bar.

"you playing as some generic soldier with a slightly higher purpose than the others"
So? What's wrong with that? Would be silly if everyone you meet is some kind of grand archmage or general swordmaster.

"solid 2 builds that would be viable because everything else seems lacking"
That is called meta, anything with multiplayer got that.

"I want to enjoy this game but it's becoming very, VERY hard to even slug my way to the next uninteresting quest area"
When I started I felt exact same way, but it got interesting when I started to read quest and stop caring about grinding lvl's.

[Nagafusa]

If you don't like the game, how about you (novel idea here) go play something else?

[sergykid]

i am pretty selective on quests, if i see elves i just skip all the dialogs. Because i don't like their fancy selfishness, but the quests in daggerfall covenant and some in the ebonheart pact, i immersed myself completely in the story.