Medium armor drop rates

[Berhoyt]

So I have couple 50+ level characters, stamina nb, stamina dk, magicka sorcerer, magicka nb and magicka templar. I'm currently trying lot of sets for each one of them, but when I decide to try non-craftable sets, such as viper, automaton or spriggan, it seems drop rate of medium sets are so low compare to light and heavy. I got necropotance for my magicka nb, withered hand for my magicka templar and spider cultist for my sorcerer very very easily. But still trying to get automaton and viper set 1h weapon over 1 week. It's very frustrating.

[ajhartman65]

ummm, why is a 1h weapon considered medium armor? A "sword & board" tank would also want a 1h weapon...

But I also find that actual medium armor drops are much lower than light/heavy in my experience.

[Krigarstam]

its all depend on RNGesus

[Berhoyt]

İlk olarak ajhartman65 tarafından gönderildi:

ummm, why is a 1h weapon considered medium armor? A "sword & board" tank would also want a 1h weapon...

But I also find that actual medium armor drops are much lower than light/heavy in my experience.

Medium armor set weapon I mean. Like I had zibillion of heavy and light set weapons in darkshade caverns. But not a single automaton 1h weapon in weeks. And I don't think it's rng. Because as I said, I tried several sets and medium drop so low in all my chars. It's like training and prosperious in monster chests.

[Magni]

i could be wrong
but from my experience the drop rate depends on what armor you are using right now
using set of heavy armor = high chance of getting heavy armor on drop
but again
i could be wrong

[Berhoyt]

İlk olarak XrT_ tarafından gönderildi:

i could be wrong
but from my experience the drop rate depends on what armor you are using right now
using set of heavy armor = high chance of getting heavy armor on drop
but again
i could be wrong

As I said, I got 3 light armor set very easily for my 3 char. And I always saw other group members drops in chat, cause they link it. It's heavy or light %90.

[ajhartman65]

Ran a couple dungeons tonight on my templar healer who uses a combo of light and heavy. Got 4 pieces of the automaton set from Darkshade, and then got 4 pieces of the barkskin set in the other dungeon. Guess it is not about what you are using as to what drops you get.

[Berhoyt]

İlk olarak ajhartman65 tarafından gönderildi:

Ran a couple dungeons tonight on my templar healer who uses a combo of light and heavy. Got 4 pieces of the automaton set from Darkshade, and then got 4 pieces of the barkskin set in the other dungeon. Guess it is not about what you are using as to what drops you get.

It almost 10 days now, yesterday run darkshade minimum 10 times, total maybe over 60-70 times. Still no 1h weapons.

[Requimatic]

İlk olarak Kawall tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak ajhartman65 tarafından gönderildi:

Ran a couple dungeons tonight on my templar healer who uses a combo of light and heavy. Got 4 pieces of the automaton set from Darkshade, and then got 4 pieces of the barkskin set in the other dungeon. Guess it is not about what you are using as to what drops you get.

It almost 10 days now, yesterday run darkshade minimum 10 times, total maybe over 60-70 times. Still no 1h weapons.

Of all the Vets I've ran, I've seen maybe 3 weapon drops total. So again, it's purely RNG, but... they seem to have a lower roll than anything else.

Medium armor seems to have a weird drop rate compared to Light/Heavy, also... most of my deconned stuff is always Light/Heavy.

That being said, though: the crafted sets are undoubtedly better than most overworld sets. Viper is really only good for surprise burst in PvP (terrible outside of it), dunno about the others, but I'm fairly certain sets like Hunding's Rage and NMG are much better.

While Spriggan looks good on paper, the problem is that in even veteran dungeons, boss resistances are typically nullified (ie: brought to zero), so all that extra penetration will be wasted; where as the critical, stamina, or weapon damage (or other 5p bonus) from another set will still boost your damage.

Spriggan might be good in Veteran Trials, but TBS outshines it even there also.

Then again, having multiple sets (in the event someone in your group is already using NMG, for instance) is always a good idea.

So far, though, I've pulled higher numbers with TBS (Thief/Shadow), even in veteran dungeons; although I'm not that far behind when using NMG.

[Raging Twilek]

1 week1? Hahaha been trying for debaser or any 2 handed viper for a month now. Knifes of shadows the unique dagger very ez to get

[Berhoyt]

İlk olarak Requimatic tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Kawall tarafından gönderildi:

It almost 10 days now, yesterday run darkshade minimum 10 times, total maybe over 60-70 times. Still no 1h weapons.

Of all the Vets I've ran, I've seen maybe 3 weapon drops total. So again, it's purely RNG, but... they seem to have a lower roll than anything else.

Medium armor seems to have a weird drop rate compared to Light/Heavy, also... most of my deconned stuff is always Light/Heavy.

That being said, though: the crafted sets are undoubtedly better than most overworld sets. Viper is really only good for surprise burst in PvP (terrible outside of it), dunno about the others, but I'm fairly certain sets like Hunding's Rage and NMG are much better.

While Spriggan looks good on paper, the problem is that in even veteran dungeons, boss resistances are typically nullified (ie: brought to zero), so all that extra penetration will be wasted; where as the critical, stamina, or weapon damage (or other 5p bonus) from another set will still boost your damage.

Spriggan might be good in Veteran Trials, but TBS outshines it even there also.

Then again, having multiple sets (in the event someone in your group is already using NMG, for instance) is always a good idea.

So far, though, I've pulled higher numbers with TBS (Thief/Shadow), even in veteran dungeons; although I'm not that far behind when using NMG.

I'm already 5 using hundings rage 2 spawn of mephala. Wish there was a jewelry crafting so i can craft other 5 piece set. But we can't so I must get drop sets. If I trust myself enough with my dps, I will go for vicious ophidian. But now I'm chasing overland sets.

[Berhoyt]

İlk olarak Flat Earth Truth tarafından gönderildi:

1 week1? Hahaha been trying for debaser or any 2 handed viper for a month now. Knifes of shadows the unique dagger very ez to get

This is exactly what I'm saying, sets for stamina builds have insane low drop rate, I just got 2 purple 1purple necklace withered hand set from my first 10-15 dolmen (which i was looking for my magicka templar) and so many other heavy set. Hell I just wanted to create dk tank just for it "I hate tanking though" and the worst part of grinding aytomaton is no one run this dungeon. For viper there are zibillion people running fungal grotto for kragh, mephala or viper. You can run fungal even without pledge 20 time in day.

[Void#151625]

drop are random
skills helps partly

another that help is ledgermain skill(helps to have at rank 20 max) sets quality and slight increase on drop rate

what helps on drops is your critical hit chance( have it round 70+%) for both spells or weapon damage
chance top drop more and better items more offen.

that way in a full invenotry of 200 you might have round 5-10 medium armours randomly from time to time quality wise from garbage to with some luck 1 usefull.

what stack to this is chain system from farming
chain is active as long you dont make a break for 30 min and or not dieing.

chain number kills with ledgermain skill rank 20 drops
100 kills chain for chance of epic drop and minor quality increase
250 kills chain for chance of epic drop and minor quality increase
500 kills chain for chance of epic drop and medium quality increase
1000 kills chain for chance of legendary drop and greate quality increase
after 1000 returns to 100 kill and repeates

ledgermain lower then rank 20 drops
chain number kills with ledgermain skill below rank 20
100 kills chain for chance of rare drop and minor quality increase
250 kills chain for chance of rare drop and minor quality increase
500 kills chain for chance of rare drop and medium quality increase
1000 kills chain for chance of epic drop and greate quality increase
after 1000 returns to 100 kill and repeates

each rank in ledgermain skill rank increase chain drop chance and a higher start at chain.
party helps some procent as well.
party ledgermain is calculate by each members ledgermain skill, best drop in a partry with only members that have rank 20 ledgermain.
if one or more members has lower rank it drops the whole parties drop rate!


since its like that befor you equipment farm,
train your ledgermain max to rank 20
for easiest equipment farming!

[ADEC Inc]

^Citation needed.

[Berhoyt]

İlk olarak CDM tarafından gönderildi:

drop are random
skills helps partly

another that help is ledgermain skill(helps to have at rank 20 max) sets quality and slight increase on drop rate

what helps on drops is your critical hit chance( have it round 70+%) for both spells or weapon damage
chance top drop more and better items more offen.

that way in a full invenotry of 200 you might have round 5-10 medium armours randomly from time to time quality wise from garbage to with some luck 1 usefull.

what stack to this is chain system from farming
chain is active as long you dont make a break for 30 min and or not dieing.

chain number kills with ledgermain skill rank 20 drops
100 kills chain for chance of epic drop and minor quality increase
250 kills chain for chance of epic drop and minor quality increase
500 kills chain for chance of epic drop and medium quality increase
1000 kills chain for chance of legendary drop and greate quality increase
after 1000 returns to 100 kill and repeates

ledgermain lower then rank 20 drops
chain number kills with ledgermain skill below rank 20
100 kills chain for chance of rare drop and minor quality increase
250 kills chain for chance of rare drop and minor quality increase
500 kills chain for chance of rare drop and medium quality increase
1000 kills chain for chance of epic drop and greate quality increase
after 1000 returns to 100 kill and repeates

each rank in ledgermain skill rank increase chain drop chance and a higher start at chain.
party helps some procent as well.
party ledgermain is calculate by each members ledgermain skill, best drop in a partry with only members that have rank 20 ledgermain.
if one or more members has lower rank it drops the whole parties drop rate!


since its like that befor you equipment farm,
train your ledgermain max to rank 20
for easiest equipment farming!

That doesn't make any sense