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BRAN 18 DIC 2024 a las 8:57 a. m.
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No hardware RT? Really?
Using software reflections etc..., not so sure, if that is a missed opportunity, Kunos.
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patrick68794 3 ENE a las 10:44 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por PAWNSTAR:
Nah i have 135" 4K gaming Projector (its kinda hard to miss graphical details at that size but sure describe to me what RT looks like just in case i missed it)
57" Neo
Triple screens
& Quest 3

Forza Fanboys from launch always wanted fixes irrelevant to the games functionality
thats why alot of people left it and why no one recommends it... cause nothing got fixed in a timely manner.... cause the DEVS were fixing the wrong things very slowly while breaking other things in the process . RT over gameplay was simply their last ret@#ded move and why the game its almost exactly the same as it was from launch .... it takes the crown for being the Starfield of the racing genre

No gaming company should take a leaf out of Turn 10s book unless they want to go bankrupt as The Woke DEI games actually have sold more copies of their games
Im suprise they can Hemorage $$ keeping the company afloat , catering to such a low population of players

RTAO to RTGI yea i get it ive played every ray tracing game...
In Forza the difference is negligible, and the fanboys are overating it

The poor implementation of RTGI in forza motorsports can kinda be replicated using RTAO by lowering contrast and adding gamma via your monitor its that bad and Viola theres TURN 10s implementation of RTGI (once you see it you cant unsee it) Global my ass.. placebo effect FANBOYS GO WILD

The game fundamentally will always look Cartoony , i dont know how a gaming company can make old skool Metal Cars look plastic and they could of at least copy and pasted sounds from FH5

Will you see Ray Tracing as if you would in immersive slow pace video game indulging on its looks the shadows the lighting.... or would it just blur right past you at 144fps making it almost absolutely redundant (Oh i just saw a puddle of water reflect my underside for a split second there goes 30fps Or Trailbraking up the ass of your opponent, just to take a glimpse of your reflection in their ass to have a game stutter)

like i said Irrelevant in developement of AC EVO game .... nail the gameplay ... then add it as a feature later . ... a free roam map 16 times the size of forza horizon mexico... RT is the last thing on the to do list and kunos has a lot on their plate

Or you can go the forza route of putting ♥♥♥♥ in a game irrelevant to gameplay while the game handles like ♥♥♥♥,and lose your player base you built over decades... its sad to see an elaborate Car list go to waste on ♥♥♥♥♥♥ physics and handling and unnatural FFB

Why wont the Fanboys defend anything i say , they cant and will only say well it has ray tracing..... and then go back and play FM on a controller oblivious to it all
or they have invested over 1000 + hours and cry say it isnt so... its just a little grindey

"Best Performing Sim Game" sure lol whatever kid
DEVS released a game knowing it was busted, Then apologised for the state of the game, Then want To know how to Fix the attitudes of the steam forza community like they were the problem in the first place ... Guess those Fanboys have lower standards and need to shill more for the company.... that rode them for a whole year

6 months i played that game and my ass still squeaks... Fanboys been playing and taking it for over a year and their ass is a wind tunnel soo bad that verbal diahorrea comes out the other side ... still praising the company

almost as bad as UBISOFT - Gamers are whats wrong with the gaming industry but Please buy our games

Kunos aint Turn 10 and we already know what they are capable of.

https://steamdb.info/app/2440510/charts/#max 2023
vs
https://steamdb.info/app/805550/charts/#max 2019
vs
https://steamdb.info/app/244210/charts/#max 2014

Lucky Turn 10 can lean on Playground games, they will just sweep FM under the carpet
( take the financial loss) ... when FH6 gets released (possibly 10 months from now)
https://steamdb.info/app/1551360/charts/#max 2021
lol imagine thinking a projector is good for image quality
PAWNSTAR 3 ENE a las 10:55 p. m. 
Well i like to have Options:

it actually not bad, it goes well with my motion rig 3m x 2m view pillar to pillar
The NEO is lovely 7680x2160
the LG C4 is HDR Bliss
the triple screens are gpu intensive
the quest 3 is ideally where i play all 90% of racing sims

lol why what screen do you have thats soo glorius or you still stuck at 1080p?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2842040/discussions/0/601891926086558769/#c601891926086564520

Just Curious I played Ubisoft games before do you really go around taking out Storm troppers with you bare hands? and did they remove the whole stealth mechanic from the game mechanics?

Do you think Massive entertainment (Ubisoft) made the millions of dollars they lost on the IP through Steam even telling steam To hide the numbers for sales on the game.

but hey as long as it looks pretty but have Crappy gameplay its ok in your books

https://steamdb.info/app/2842040/charts/#max
Lols no chance they couldnt salvage the loss through steam , but hey Its still more popular than FORZA MOTORSPORTS lol but not by much

I played Division 2 the makers of the game you love soo much star wars outlaws and star wars outlaws has sunk ubisoft while assassins creed will bury it into bankruptcy

oh wow you play every Woke DEI SBinc Video game My bad Lol and starfield .... rofl the nail in the coffin LMAO Demanding Video game , nah poorly Developed lol theres a difference but ignorance is bliss


Última edición por PAWNSTAR; 3 ENE a las 11:56 p. m.
patrick68794 4 ENE a las 8:28 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por PAWNSTAR:
Well i like to have Options:

it actually not bad, it goes well with my motion rig 3m x 2m view pillar to pillar
The NEO is lovely 7680x2160
the LG C4 is HDR Bliss
the triple screens are gpu intensive
the quest 3 is ideally where i play all 90% of racing sims

lol why what screen do you have thats soo glorius or you still stuck at 1080p?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2842040/discussions/0/601891926086558769/#c601891926086564520

Just Curious I played Ubisoft games before do you really go around taking out Storm troppers with you bare hands? and did they remove the whole stealth mechanic from the game mechanics?

Do you think Massive entertainment (Ubisoft) made the millions of dollars they lost on the IP through Steam even telling steam To hide the numbers for sales on the game.

but hey as long as it looks pretty but have Crappy gameplay its ok in your books

https://steamdb.info/app/2842040/charts/#max
Lols no chance they couldnt salvage the loss through steam , but hey Its still more popular than FORZA MOTORSPORTS lol but not by much

I played Division 2 the makers of the game you love soo much star wars outlaws and star wars outlaws has sunk ubisoft while assassins creed will bury it into bankruptcy

oh wow you play every Woke DEI SBinc Video game My bad Lol and starfield .... rofl the nail in the coffin LMAO Demanding Video game , nah poorly Developed lol theres a difference but ignorance is bliss
I have a C4 lol I also have a Quest 3. Why the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about Ubisoft games?
goblueteam 4 ENE a las 3:18 p. m. 
I think many of us are hoping for 100+ fps at 1440p or 1440p ultra wide and higher 4k-I dont think having ray tracing is really going to fit into that equation for most people.

If ray tracing was a big priority everyone with less than a 800-1000+$ gpu would be stuck at 1080p with upscaling on to get 60 fps if were lucky lol like most of the other titles with
a focus on ray tracing...

Not saying it doesnt work ok in some games but idk even when I could get decent fps with it on I just did not think it looked good a lot of the time-ray tracing is really only for people
that have extremely high end pcs that are still willing to lose a lot of FPS for looks that idk to me are not really better just different.

I just have not seen ray tracing that really made much difference to anything other than the fps being cut in half so for me ray tracing is not something to even consider yet until lower end GPUs can actually use its kind of something only a few can really have a good experience with-not the majority.

I worry that even with out ray tracing many people will struggle to get good fps of 100+ hopefully kunos does better than most other recently released games I have already seen
people saying there PC does not meet minimum requirements that play ACC and AMS2-although,
I have a feeling a 1660 ti is probably still enough for 1080p-as somehow the rx5600(no xt)6gb is on the recommended requirements.
The rx5600 is about 2% faster than the 1660 ti and also 2% faster than the 1070 in the minimum requirements-
I do wonder if they meant to put the 5700 here as it was the rival to the 2070 and 20% faster than the 5600/1070/1660ti while the 2070 is 32% faster than those 3 GPU's

Also the rx580 is a minimum requirement card....this is 25% worse than the 1070/5600 also 23% worse than the 1660 ti...

I was using techpowerups gpu relative performance chart with the 5600 selected as 100% baseline heres the link to see how your gpu compares scroll down to around mid page.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-5600-oem.c3475#:~:text=AMD%20has%20paired%206%20GB,MHz%20(12%20Gbps%20effective).
PAWNSTAR 4 ENE a las 6:21 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por patrick68794:
Publicado originalmente por PAWNSTAR:
Well i like to have Options:

it actually not bad, it goes well with my motion rig 3m x 2m view pillar to pillar
The NEO is lovely 7680x2160
the LG C4 is HDR Bliss
the triple screens are gpu intensive
the quest 3 is ideally where i play all 90% of racing sims

lol why what screen do you have thats soo glorius or you still stuck at 1080p?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2842040/discussions/0/601891926086558769/#c601891926086564520

Just Curious I played Ubisoft games before do you really go around taking out Storm troppers with you bare hands? and did they remove the whole stealth mechanic from the game mechanics?

Do you think Massive entertainment (Ubisoft) made the millions of dollars they lost on the IP through Steam even telling steam To hide the numbers for sales on the game.

but hey as long as it looks pretty but have Crappy gameplay its ok in your books

https://steamdb.info/app/2842040/charts/#max
Lols no chance they couldnt salvage the loss through steam , but hey Its still more popular than FORZA MOTORSPORTS lol but not by much

I played Division 2 the makers of the game you love soo much star wars outlaws and star wars outlaws has sunk ubisoft while assassins creed will bury it into bankruptcy

oh wow you play every Woke DEI SBinc Video game My bad Lol and starfield .... rofl the nail in the coffin LMAO Demanding Video game , nah poorly Developed lol theres a difference but ignorance is bliss
I have a C4 lol I also have a Quest 3. Why the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about Ubisoft games?

Cause thats what games you buy and have a high regard for, which is no different from forza motorsports.... All show, no go
and Starfield was the icing on the cake

Im not sure why the F#$K your over protective of forza or starfield when they were soo broken and poorly developed Just sprinkle a little Raytracing On top without fixing underlyin issues like say Gameplay or developement ....

But your gamelist and how you protect them in other forums kinda tells me you dont like gameplay and like bells and whistles
but each to their own

Lol Weird little RT advocate Flexer most 4000 series owners are like that, though they love the ray tracing but the game itself is busted asf
Yes i agree with you Raytracing is here to stay in Video games...

But if you turn it off just remove those reflections and shadows and lighting , You can see Developement flaws in games, from controls , FFB, handling

And In your case Star Wars Outlaws isnt about DEI its about how ♥♥♥♥ it is gameplay and handling wise and how buggy and stupid the gameplay was and its Crappy AI and how it was released in that condition... nothing to do with DEI or the actress or how Pretty the game is .... not sure why your pedestalling it
Didnt you have to restart the whole game after Playing it for hours cause the Developement team had to patch it making games saves broken? In the Early Access you payed a premium for to play before release?

And Starfield was the pinnacle of the COVID lockdown, the most broken game that released ♥♥♥♥ which took ages for updates.... None of which ive purchased due to knowing how underdeveloped the games were .....but you do you

Quality Gaming ..... just sprinkle a little RT on it.... shes still good
Última edición por PAWNSTAR; 4 ENE a las 7:33 p. m.
Mattmattmatt 5 ENE a las 2:11 a. m. 
lol *remembers when gamersnexus ranted about ACC removing raytracing*

Did anyone even mod it in, I would've expected it to seeing as they had preview videos of it?

edit: perhaps no one cares about it, which is why we never saw it mentioned again?
Última edición por Mattmattmatt; 5 ENE a las 2:13 a. m.
XIII 5 ENE a las 3:58 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mattmattmatt:
lol *remembers when gamersnexus ranted about ACC removing raytracing*

When did that happen? Im not aware AC ever had RayTracing, and Im not seeing any gamers nexus video about any AC game.
Seco46 5 ENE a las 5:44 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por XIII:
Publicado originalmente por Mattmattmatt:
lol *remembers when gamersnexus ranted about ACC removing raytracing*

When did that happen? Im not aware AC ever had RayTracing, and Im not seeing any gamers nexus video about any AC game.
The only thing about it was a demo of ACC made by Nvidia (in which Kunos barely participated) in an event to promote RTX and Kunos decided not to implement the RT on ACC because the technology was simply too demanding (and surely on EVO we won't have it either for the same reason)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpTjTdnvEOE
PAWNSTAR 5 ENE a las 6:10 a. m. 
smart lads, Kunos never focus on visual aid bells & whistles

to sell their products they focused primarily on the connection between you and the car
and all the gear in between. and they did a great job creating the "FEEL"

i Remembered ACC on my first rig with Logitech Pro and True force and no other sim came close to that feeling.

Then my 2nd rig destroyed that With buttkickers, wind simulators, motion platform pedal haptics

Im sure they will knock it out of the ball park with this one. as they didnt limit themselves To just TRACK RACING

I find Track Racers tend to die too quickly some moreso faster than others.
yet Iracing and now LMU are going toe to toe all of a sudden...

It aint the prettiest its probably the oldest , but majority of the time the best racing experiences come out of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3h1hNrjWrk&ab_channel=DaveCam
Última edición por PAWNSTAR; 5 ENE a las 6:26 a. m.
XIII 5 ENE a las 6:21 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Seco46:
The only thing about it was a demo of ACC made by Nvidia (in which Kunos barely participated) in an event to promote RTX and Kunos decided not to implement the RT on ACC because the technology was simply too demanding (and surely on EVO we won't have it either for the same reason)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpTjTdnvEOE

Thx, so the guy just made the whole thing up.
PAWNSTAR 5 ENE a las 6:42 a. m. 
I can see the AC Modders lining up at Kunos saying let us in we can mod something very similiar with less GPU usage but that just opens up a whole new level of Fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKEI19EBKxU&t=17s&ab_channel=ProjectSimRacing

Hope Kunos has some good Drift Activities :P

Even ACC no raytracing .... Destroys Forza motosports with Raytracing
Its like Realistic vs Cartoony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFQY7b2wtno&ab_channel=ProjectSimRacing
Última edición por PAWNSTAR; 5 ENE a las 7:02 a. m.
BRAN 5 ENE a las 8:18 a. m. 
Sorry to be so pedantic. But ACC "destroys" FM with RT?
I say it again I LOVED AC, liked ACC, but didn't care for GT Cars. LOVED ACCs Nordschleife.
So I am more than happy, that they are coming back to their roots, with or without RT. Safe buy.
And yet again it shows, FM GI RT IS BETTER (of course^^):
Where is the shadow casted on the hood or interior driving under the bridge? NADA
Just 1 example. Or the always equally illuminated surface of the cars, front to back, top to bottom, left is like right? They never change. If you like that, okay.

"destroys" = DESTROYED
RT is cartoony? Just wow.
PAWNSTAR 5 ENE a las 3:25 p. m. 
You only had to play the franchise to know they are Cartoony,
No silly TURN OFF your magical RT setting and look at the base game

Look beyond the shadows and the reflections, look at the body work trees and track.
well no dont look at the track its like low textures since launch <--- Devs picked RT over A high res Texture pack when it already had basic RT

Even the collisions Sounds make it feel like a cartoon
with Damage modelling they advertised as beyond anything else
Plus it has goofy handling to match.... designed for controller
the Ramming is chronic,
the penalty system is broken
safety rating dont mean ♥♥♥♥, due to low population count
♥♥♥♥♥♥ Audio sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c0FFbyxg2I&ab_channel=SCDRRacing

Just rinse and repeat Turn 1 of this video, soak it in ....
No other racing simulator does this and lives to tell the tale
only arcadey FORZA does
heck you hear more about Gran Turismo in the esports scene
because all the sponsors bailed on FORZA in the first 3 months because it was a disaster

Just sprinkle a little RT on this one on RT it already has will not save the game
possibly The whole F1 line up and F1 Tracks might, but its going down hill from Now
which i learnt to accept 6 months ago

is there anything other than RT, forza has going for it that is actually Driving related? after a year or do they need more time to bake it in the oven?

2000hrs in 6 months, done dusted completed with 95 million cash to upgrade anything on command... all cars + 250 drift drag cars.
and 6 months after that of FOMO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or 8hrs per month , Monthly Chure
I do still see how the game slowly progresses from launch day wether or not thats fowards or backwards ... Turn 10 never suprises me

Or is forza just a pretty All Show , No Go racing game , that you are forced to go around in circles for the entirety of the life span with Either Rammers or Crappy AI getting in your way

Fanboys Wow just Wow
The force is strong with this one after a year
Glorified tech demo with bugger all people playing it

like you said Bran
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FM is the best looking and performing CARSim out there.

10 + racing sim communities just face palmed that comment

Along side Wreckfest, NFS & Mario kart... I thought rewind button and The Infinite bumper car effect gave that away,or the magical handicap boost

If it was best performing the original steam number from launch was approx 1200 players , its had 4 discount sales .
watch this number float between newcomers or the last of the fanboys
Última edición por PAWNSTAR; 5 ENE a las 6:16 p. m.
PAWNSTAR 5 ENE a las 4:12 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por BRAN:
Using software reflections etc..., not so sure, if that is a missed opportunity, Kunos.

I believe this is what you said , as its the topic of discussion

Publicado originalmente por BRAN:
Sorry to be so pedantic. But ACC "destroys" FM with RT?
I say it again I LOVED AC, liked ACC, but didn't care for GT Cars. LOVED ACCs Nordschleife.
So I am more than happy, that they are coming back to their roots, with or without RT. Safe buy.
And yet again it shows, FM GI RT IS BETTER (of course^^):
Where is the shadow casted on the hood or interior driving under the bridge? NADA
Just 1 example. Or the always equally illuminated surface of the cars, front to back, top to bottom, left is like right? They never change. If you like that, okay.

"destroys" = DESTROYED
RT is cartoony? Just wow.

This is your arguement disregard the waffle
Reflections shadows and lighting makes a game successful and without it its not good or a misopportunity
RT Hadnt been here since the dawning of gaming.... So how are 10 older sims Destroying Forza motorsports in Player base when they dont have RT in them

by your logic shouldnt the New Comer with RT Graphics overtake at least 1 of the 10 Racing sims that dont have RT if it was a gameplay changer


like you said Bran
Publicado originalmente por BRAN:
FM is the best looking and performing CARSim out there.

its not a sim but ok... performing Ingame ? not for like 8 Updates it was a mess...
its Crossplay with Kids with Xboxs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrr_Temr3gs&ab_channel=SmythsToysSuperstores

performance in sales which from a buisness point of view would be result of how successful it is ...

https://steamdb.info/app/2440510/charts/

Then No, This is reality

https://steamdb.info/app/805550/charts/

But its lovely to see theres still some people giving S#$t back to the devs
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2440510/discussions/0/594009924939346116/

"Built for the Modern Audience"

Your name or your profile pic looks familiar but i apologise if im wrong , but i think i helped you stabilize your gameplay , and you were crying on the forums, abusing the devs... Cause you had a 4000 series GPU & you tried running the game with maximum fps unlocked on ultra with RT Maxed, which memory leaked the game under 10 minutes and i told you a fix for it.... if it wasnt you my bad ... i troubleshooted that game for alot of people in the first 6 months....

I dont want to go back in my post history.... possibly around Update 5 where they destroyed Frame Pacing and Vsync, gsync and destroyed AMD cpu performance in the game which led to the stutterfest while driving update think they blew up HDR in that update aswell and killed DLSS in one hit

BEST & FM Doesnt belong in the same sentence
especially after Turn 10 got IGN to promote their broken game before xmas sales in the first year 1 month after launch....(Predatory on the consumer who didnt know beter) both companies lost reputations that day

https://www.ign.com/articles/ign-awards-2023-every-winner-announced

and if the company couldnt get worst 1 year later on they decide the community was the problem and want to know how to fix them....
Not enough sprinkles of Ray tracing aint going to fix Poor buisness Practices and Poor Product

Like i said Forza fanboys come back will only be well at least it has ray tracing
While the Devs say Spread em and say aaaah while theres a shadow developing on your chin, and a glint of reflections in your eyes
Guess you NADA missed that ....
Última edición por PAWNSTAR; 5 ENE a las 6:23 p. m.
Fleetwood 5 ENE a las 6:24 p. m. 
This man ^ talks in his sleep. Wtf 😂
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