The Long Dark

The Long Dark

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sheap Dec 23, 2024 @ 11:07am
Old interloper player here, many questions
coming back after many years,
haven't played since the first chapter release,
only played sand box mode,
didn't really liked the story driven mode when first chapter released,

This said I am planning to come back to play the full sandbox experience mode with all the new maps,
so my first question is will I miss a lot on new mechanics or lore if i don't play the story mode ?

Also when i quit, some new mechanics made my interloper game (proud of my little 156days back then) a lot more harder than it was (introduction of smell mechanism where wolves could track you when you had fresh meat, for exemple)

what are the new mechanics i should be aware of ?

Above all : In the end of interloper difficulty, is it still about making infinite fire using only Magnifying Lens to start fire, keeping matches for the only very rare (Hungry) hopeless (cold) disastrous (bleeding) astounishingly(in a ditch) bad (damn weather...) situation ?

I understand that's a lot of question do I'd also be glad if you can point me toward a nice video resuming all that.

Thanks
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Bobywan Dec 23, 2024 @ 11:51am 
Wow, you must be a very old player, I didn't even know smell was initially not in the game.
Well it's still is !

From very recently, you can now find tools to make furnitures, including a meat curing box, which means you can cure meat using salt to make it odorless and also much lighter: 0.25kg/900 calories. Salt can be obtained from salt deposit along the shore and in caves.
It can also be obtain from the newly introduced trader (but it's part of the Tales from thje far terrotiroes DLC)

Recently, the wildlife have been refreshed with new locations, same for lot a year ago (no more guaranteed distress pistol on the summit)

Was the backpack already a thing back then ? it adds +5kg carry capacity and can be found in Ash Canyon

Were timberwolves already a thing ? A pack of wolves with a moral meter you can deplete by either shooting at them or throwing torches/flares or even a lot of stones, they will perform small attacks, not necessarily triggering struggles. They were initially confined to Blackrock and Bleak Inlet but now can occasionnaly be found elsewhere.

There is a recipe/cooking system if you have the Tales DLC with some nice boost to carry weight, restoring condition or reducing cabin fever.

There is Vitamin C food and scurvy risk if you don't eat enough, in the end fish and birch bark tea are the most renewable source.

A can now make a travois if you own the DLC, to pull large quantities of thing 'up to 75kg in addition to your inventory but not recommended to fill it more than 50kg or you'll be really slow), it's very convenient to carry large animal quarters to safety.

Not sure what else you could eb missing, but a lot of new things as you can see.
PowerOn Dec 23, 2024 @ 11:56am 
You will don't miss nothing if don't play the story mode. Alias, await the release to the part 5, the last part in 2025 and then play the story in one go.

The new mechanics added across the years made the game ways more easy, well, unless the Cougar, what is optional play with.

Besides the use of Mag Lens for make fire indefinitely in clear days you can trade matches with the Trader boat in CH, as well other goods, most of then irrelevant, like recipes for new pelt cloths, or food, things nice to have, but not necessary for survive.

A good to have is the Tales of The Lost Territories DLC, what add new regions for explore and have some exclusive mechanics, like safetyhouse "decoration", for have what to do in latter game.

Look at Zaknafein videos in YT, he describe well the new mechanics and options, from Interloper perspective.
Last edited by PowerOn; Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:01pm
Tourby Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:05pm 
Hi sheap, there is a lot of new features and mechanics:

Scurvy: at the start of the game you can enable or disable it. some food items contain vitaminC and you need to regulary eat some

Cougar. you can also turn it on or off at creation

cooking: new ingredients recipes with buffs

3 tales. no much rewarding on interloper but keep you busy

safehouse customisation

instant camera: to shoot great bear

a trader. that you can contact with a radio and also have his own tale

"travois" to carry a lot of weight

and i probably forgot a lot more.

about interloper, it's tie only difficulty i play, it is pretty much as you descibe but it's probably why wee like it so much.
sheap Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Well from what you wrote it seems I am back fishing and waiting for sunny days to make fire ^^

It seems there are a LOT of new mechanics, definitely gonna watch zaknafein videos ;
glad to know i can start in sand box mode without knowing anything.

for the questions you ask about the old days on the long dark,
my most beloved days in interlopper were spent after 100 hundred days, once I had i looted everything i could, I migrated to coastal highway, spent days just fishing, scavenging, and occasionally sleeping outside on clear night, always avoiding everything dangerous, I really hope the game will give me the same sense of progression, be in hell for days and slowly finding a paradise where everything sustain and i can be a coward, but everything can end in a glimpse.

Beleive it or not, I play this game for the "comfy" side, all my walkthrough is driven toward the goal to get confort, seeing that you can customize your place is awesome (I loved to placed my loot on table back in the days)

In the end I think I just got lucky

What's about the cougar, shouldn't that be another nasty animal like wolves, why does the game ask if you want to activate it ?
Last edited by sheap; Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:51pm
Wallachian Wolf Dec 23, 2024 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by sheap:
Well from what you wrote it seems I am back fishing and waiting for sunny days to make fire ^^

It seems there are a LOT of new mechanics, definitely gonna watch zaknafein videos ;
glad to know i can start in sand box mode without knowing anything.

for the questions you ask about the old days on the long dark,
my most beloved days in interlopper were spent after 100 hundred days, once I had i looted everything i could, I migrated to coastal highway, spent days just fishing, scavenging, and occasionally sleeping outside on clear night, always avoiding everything dangerous, I really hope the game will give me the same sense of progression, be in hell for days and slowly finding a paradise where everything sustain and i can be a coward, but everything can end in a glimpse.

Beleive it or not, I play this game for the "comfy" side, all my walkthrough is driven toward the goal to get confort, seeing that you can customize your place is awesome (I loved to placed my loot on table back in the days)

In the end I think I just got lucky

What's about the cougar, shouldn't that be another nasty animal like wolves, why does the game ask if you want to activate it ?
Yes,the safehouse customization is nothing compared to placing stuff on the table.You cragt different types of furniture and move things around.The cougar is the toughest predator in the game now,the ultimate hunter challenge,he takes up to 10 rifle bullets and can end you very quickly if you decide to confront it unprepared,luckily it can be aboided and is not present in CH atm.
FPStewy Dec 24, 2024 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by sheap:
coming back after many years, what are the new mechanics i should be aware of ?

Originally posted by PowerOn:
You will don't miss nothing if don't play the story mode.

I was an interloper millionaire fisherman, because green birch saplings don't respawn and eventually you have to use the bow wisely. For a 5K to 10K hour run the thing that can kill you in the very long runs are pants, you need arrows for Deer or Wolf pants, for that you need a bow, for that you need saplings which are limited. You can trade for pants but you need plants which are limited.

For a very long run use the bow only as necessary for deer/wolf pants. Harvest every sapling and save every cloth you can get to fix those pants once they get to 30%. You can trade renewables for mittens that can give you a cloth.

But you can catch rabbits and fish for a very long time. I took a four year break after losing an 1100 hr loper run which devastated me, I'm going to try to give it another go but here are a few things that interest me and bug me in the present state.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1253379662
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1282468254
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1261438565

Timberwolves are not optional so yea that bugs me, I'll see how much real life sanity it pushes me.

I haven't tried or confirmed the below yet but

If you have / completed the Tales DLC story mode you can get the Settled Mind "feat" which can make you immune to cabin fever on interloper.

If you complete the Sutherland's Tale you can get the Interloper trader to trade the Bushcraft Bow that can do a bit more damage but requires 5 Green saplings. I don't know if that's a good trade off.

Apparently: if you complete Sutherland's Tale 5 quests, you can trade 3Kg of Raw Meat for a Hacksaw or a sewing kit. Along with mittens for Lantern fuel and bark. If that's the case then you can live for a very very long time not even using the bow and living off rabbits and fish. The other thing is that you can get lantern oil by fishing certain fish.

So yea that's interloper.
PowerOn Dec 24, 2024 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Wallachian Wolf:

The cougar is the toughest predator in the game now,the ultimate hunter challenge,he takes up to 10 rifle bullets and can end you very quickly if you decide to confront it unprepared,luckily it can be aboided and is not present in CH atm.

The Cougar is in CH - at least in my Interloper games; on "NW" side of the map, blocking the path for Ravine. Anyway I was able to avoid him coming from Ravine to CH.

If hunted will move for other areas, including Quonset.

Instead 10 bullets can take just one "golden arrow" for kill the Cougar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzm1OEjNVA
Last edited by PowerOn; Dec 24, 2024 @ 1:47pm
Wheelie Dec 24, 2024 @ 1:52pm 
Thread moved to the Tales From The Far Territory subforum, as many comments are getting into spoilers about the DLC, which may confuse new players who do not have the DLC.
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