New tales: Very frustrating..

[Devlin]

Tried the new 'Tales from afar territory' today. Got quite some survival experience under my belt. Curious about the new airfield.

Round 1: You cannot start in the new territory without first travelling from the old one. When finally entering the new map from the old map, I got attacked by a wolf out of nothing (no growl, nothing, it just popped up). Had all stuff, except disinfection. Got infected due lack of disinfectant, but then antibiotics did nothing (apparently I first need to let the wound infect?). Found old man's but no work bench. When infected, took antibiotics. Did not work. World starts spinning. Died.

Round 2: Died inside of the station house due lack of fuel and a never-ending night/ snowstorm (you start half naked). No hatchet to brake down a simple broom or chair to put in the fire place (other chairs you can break down by hand, so why?).

Round 3: Again re-spawned without ANY decent clothing. Warmed up, gathered what I could and tried to make a break for it. Go north: dead end. Tried again. Followed the road to the mine, only to find it again a dead end with nothing there and too cold to get back. Dead again.

So I traveled not even 1,5 km in 2 hours of game play. Seriously rethinking of leaving the game at this point. Not that it's too hard. Simply: if you don't have or bring basic clothing or basic tools, even if you've searched all there is to search in the new map, you're dead. Seems you can't start and survive in the new territory, simply you first need to collect all the stuff you need from the old ones. De facto forces a replay of already explored areas. Ah yea, the old saves don't work.

Few remarks for the developers:
- Some watch or time indication of time where you are in the day would be helpful (now you can only see it when you go to sleep). You need to plan, but often have no clue where you are in the day.
- Doing repair work while cooking isn't possible. How often water evaporated or meat got ruined, because you want to use your time more efficiently. Now you can't. Waiting by the fire for snow to melt and boil is boring. Really boring.
- Found that fires in certain places with still 2 hours of burning time, suddenly jump to 5 minutes of burning time. Which makes the fire, an essential tool, practically useless at that moment.
- When you use medicine (like antibiotics) they do not do anything if you don't select the correct affliction it is intended for (note: when you DO have affliction that needs antibiotics). So I imagine you can apply bandages in the wrong place. But swallow medicine and then you're told doesn't work because you 'needed' it to tell first what it's for? (e.g. your arm, not your foot). That's weird. Really.
- You need charcoal to draw a map. Nice find. However, I have multiple charcoal in my inventory, how do I select it to start drawing??

[KongGK]

by "survival experience", you mean in the game or in real life?

[IFIYGD]

Just a note- you do not need a workbench to craft Old Man's Beard Dressings. You can craft them in the dark, anywhere. Wake up fully rested, but it's too dark out to do anything? Have OMBL in your backpack? Craft a few OMB dressings. There are a number of things you can craft without a workbench- prepare rose hips, reishi mushrooms, birch bark, Craft fishing tackle from hooks and line. Craft torches if you have sticks, cloth and lamp fuel in inventory.

Check the anvil icon at the top of the page while in your inventory- you can craft from there for things that don't need a workbench.

You can multitask at fires. Make sure the cooking time is more than the time needed to do whatever task you need or want to do. If I want to read a chapter of a skill book while making tea- that's not going to work, because the chapter of reading takes 1 hour, while the tea cooks in 10 minutes, and will burn away before the 1 hour reading time is done.
I read while making water (in a cooking pot- not in a recycled can)- water takes 2 hours and has a fairly significant "time until burned away" grace period. So if I start the water and immediately begin reading for 2 hours, I am able to do so without anything burning away. If I try to do the same while cooking 2 pieces of rabbit or deer that have variable cooking times based upon weight- they have less of a grace period after cooking before they burn, and they cook relatively quickly. So I can't read for an hour. But I might have enough time to repair a toque or harvest a pair of ragged socks. The game shows you how long it will take to cook something, how long it will take to repair something, how long it will take to craft something, how long it ill take to harvest something. You need to figure out if you have enough time to do *the thing* depending on how long it will take to cook *the food/water/tea*. I haven't had any issues with multitasking while cooking since the update- if I have enough time that *the food* takes to cook to do *the task I want to do*, it works just like before.
If you don't have any tasks to do and want to get through the cooking or water making process IRL time more quickly- click on the item being cooked, then press the [SPACE] key to speed through the cooking time. Just like it worked before the update.

Making a charcoal map only requires you to have charcoal in your inventory, and you have to be outdoors. Bring up the radial menu and select the mapping icon (the big wind rose/compass rose at the bottom of the radial menu (Looks like a star pointing in the cardinal directions). You'll use 1 piece of charcoal to draw that section of map. You don't need to select it from inventory to use it.

[KongGK]

for time tracking - press and hold space button should show a sun or moon icon in the top right. if the sun is on the left, sunrise.. sun on top, midday... sun on right, sun set... same for moon icon.

-for charcoal- press hold space, select navigation from the circle menu, from there the charcoal should be in there to use.

-as for fire, if your fire is out door, they will be affect by winds and snow.. if there is too much wind the fire goes out faster, so where you make fire matters.

-as for repair- just need to plan it out better.

-for med - i agree but it just takes some getting to know which does what.

[76561198180169417]

At least you're playing the game. I envy you. I'm still stuck in the black screen.

[Devlin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av KongGK:

by "survival experience", you mean in the game or in real life?

In game of course! Just picked up the game again - I may be rusty, it just feels I keep missing the ledge to grab on to

Also KongGK & IFIYGD: thanks for the tips - will try!

(for med: I got infected, took the antibiotics - which should work - but died of it anyway).

[IFIYGD]

For infected wounds, like a wolf bite- you need to apply antiseptic to the wound. Like pouring the bottle of hydrogen peroxide on the arm that got bit, or put an Old Man's Beard Lichen dressing on it- *before* the full blown infection occurs (your status page should show Risk Of Infection) to stop it.
If you have the full blown infection affliction, you need to take the antibiotics or dink the reishi tea, and sleep for the number of hours the treatment requires (8 hours, in general). If you don't do the sleeping part- the infection is not cured, and condition loss will progress until it is. I am guessing you did not sleep after taking the antibiotics, and your condition dropped before you were able to sleep the full number of hours needed to cure the infection.
And you can have more than one infection at a time- if you had 2 infections and took only 1 dose of antibiotics, the other infection still exists and can kill you while the other one is healing.

No- it's not IRL realistic. It;s a game mechanic. It's not IRL realistic for a sprain to heal after 4 hours of sleep or immediately if you throw an ace bandage on it, or a nasty infection to heal after 1 dose of penicillin and 8 hours of sleep. It's a game with game mechanics, not an IRL survival simulator. We should all be glad they didn't add a Rabies Affliction to the game, IMHO.

[Claybot]

It really sounds like your survival experience is from a different game. Everything I read in your post is pretty basic stuff for anyone playing survival in TLD.

I play Stalker, first thing I did in my new game was find cloth make 4 bandages, collect the beard made my dressings, picked mushrooms and rosehips. First fire I cooked the mushrooms and rosehips.

I repair all the time while cooking, if water takes 38 mins from snow to boil I know I have about 40 mins to repair or craft.

Again all basic TLD survival things

[Sans Undertale]

What difficulty are you playing? That may explain why you are having a hard time.